1995 p nickel
Richmac559
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Found a 1995p nickel in my pocket change and there is a lot of doubling on it. I've searched online for others and I can't find any. Anybody out there that can help me finding out more about this coin
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Google "mechanical doubling".
You're looking in the right place for sure and your pictures are very good. When I saw my first mechanical doubling years ago, I almost had a heart attack and I was convinced I found a Doubled Die coin........I was wrong.
Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )
Actually you are wrong; people using high magnification like this almost always get it wrong and fall into rabbit holes because of it. And photos of a screen like this are awful with poor resolution.
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And what exactly am I wrong about again?
Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )
You do realize sometimes it takes "high" magnification to see some Doubled Dies and RPMs. Albeit the coins that need the mag don't really bring much (if any) of a premium and most collectors don't waste time collecting them.
This is a 1962 Jefferson Nickel DDO-003. You gonna see this without magnification?
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
I spelled that out in my post, his photos of a screen are terrible and pixilated which is a far cry from "very good". Also this is obviously MD, so how do you conclude that he "looking in the right places" when he clearly cannot determine what is plainly obvious. I have no problem with the op's question, not knowing is not a crime, but telling him he is on the right track when he is not is just misinformation on your part.
You gonna see this without magnification?
Yes I would, just last year I spotted a 1972 DDO-10 in a roll that I was looking thru. If you are not familiar with DDO-10 it is not recognized by the TPG's (well maybe ANACS would) because it is so minor. In fact it has a smaller spread than the example nickel that you posted as seen in this screenshot from VV. I wasn't looking for this DDO but I had no difficulty spotting it and I confirmed what I saw with a 5X loupe; no microscope needed.
Too many people have been misinformed that they need a microscope so they can search for obscure and unimportant micro varieties. A microscope is a powerful tool in a lab and can be useful for a tiny percentage of variety attributions, but far from "needed" for everyday coin/roll searcher needs. As you yourself pointed out if you need a microscope to see something it simply is not worth the effort or time finding. The truth is proper lighting, and knowledge is far more effective than a microscope and guessing.
My Collection of Old Holders
Never a slave to one plastic brand will I ever be.
No, actually you didn't spell anything out. The OP's photo's are not terrible. They were good enough for a blind squirrel to see the difference between MD and DD. I know it's obviously MD, that's why I said mechanical doubling. I concluded he was looking in the right places because mechanical doubling and doubled dies are essentially (not exactly but very close) in the same spot on the devices. It's very easy for a novice collector to confuse the two. That's how I concluded he is looking in the right spot and right track for a DD. The MD and DD was not plainly obvious to the OP. That's why he is here asking the question.
Your entire post was misinformation and disinformation.
Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )
It really is pretty easy to determine that a 1995 Jefferson is not a doubled die variety even if you have no experience with them when you search the CONECA master list and there are none, not even a minor variety.
The ultimate problem here is the hype by EBay scammers and social media AI apps that are confusing people into thinking that they are rich if they find some junk coin in their pocket.
New collectors who search the "easier" coins, Lincolns and Jeffersons now IMO, where there still are better odds of a find, need to understand that the efficient way to search is to have a list of what they are looking for based upon existing confirmed varieties, preferably major varieties with an FS number if they seek higher value items. It is far better than to chase any doubling if you are not familiar with mechanical doubling each time you look at a coin. That allows them to look through a lot more coins per unit of time, enhancing their odds of a good find.
Happy Hunting.
There are new Doubled Dies being found with the advent of microscope searching so there might not be now but may very well be in the future. So you can't go by your reasoning. And come now - we aren't talking about microbiology grade scopes. Many scopes you use for coin searching are 10x - 50x variable. Of course no young numismatist will post finds on this forum anymore after they get chewed up and spit out by alot of you on here - as evidenced by @coinbuf posts. They move on to other forums where people actually will give them information and help them learn.
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
It is sad that the truth hurts the thin skinned.
My Collection of Old Holders
Never a slave to one plastic brand will I ever be.
The only thing sad is your inability to take criticism. Obviously you shouldn't mention the word "truth" untill you know the meaning of it. Have a great day - life is too short to bother with an old man stuck in the past.........
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
See you just proved my point.
My Collection of Old Holders
Never a slave to one plastic brand will I ever be.
If it is not on the CONECA master list and requires high magnification it will never be a major variety, and most likely not even a minor variety. Find me some examples where a microscope is needed to identify a recognized variety.
If you want to collect worthless microscope "varieties" that CONECA deems too insignificant to stand as a variety, then by all means enjoy.
I do have an Elikliv Digital 4K attached to my computer, so I do not say that microscopes are not useful, but not for manufacturing micro-variations that are not recognized now and never will be.
So don't send the young numismatists down that intellectual and collecting cul-de-sac.
Instead teach them to search for known major varieties using efficient methods. As a collector of Lincoln verities, I actually do have a couple that are minor, but they are recognized as such and have some special interest. Otherwise I'll stick to the wheat & memorial FS designated major varieties that actually hold value and are interesting. And yes, I have found plenty of major varieties in circulated coins that were slabbed, so it certainly is possible if one puts in some effort. Jefferson varieties too are not uncommon in circulated bank obtained rolls, but anything above the nickels are getting too uncommon to spend the time.
The only place that these artificial non varieties flourish is with EBay scammers and Etsy, and that does a lot more harm than just teaching them to look for real varieties.
I know what you're saying and there is much truth to it. I think the issue is less about the existence of microscopic varieties but the value of them. I don't know of any variety that requires 10x or more to see that has any significant value. But, if people like them, they should search for them.
But it is worth KINDLY pointing out to people that it isn't a pathway to profit. After all, the most common question we get here from the MD crowd is "is it worth submitting".
A local "old guy" (don't be a hater) recently died. As part of his estate, there were 3 or 4 double row boxes of nothing but modern coins with very minor varieties. The dealer paid face value for them and after a few weeks of trying to find someone else to buy them from him at face, he put them back into circulation.
I would also add, more for the curmudgeons than you, that the existence of the microscopic images may have less to do with the "need" to use the microscope to see it as for the need to be able to capture images.
@jmlanzaf
First off I think collecting "minor" varieties is a waste of time and at times I have to hold myself back from replying "WHY?". But I am talking more as to get young people interested into numismatics by searching change for these (worthless) minor varieties. Once they get "hooked" on collecting easy to find coins hopefully they will enjoy it and stick with the hobby. We sure don't need old crabasses talking down to them and discouraging them to the point that they leave this forum and move to a friendlier one. YN's are the future of this hobby and the right way to act is encourage them and help them learn - not be be adding derogatory posts to chase them away.
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
Oh, no, I totally agree. Young or old, there's really no point with being rude. It's much easier to just ignore