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1913 Cent. Proof or business strike?

I bought this Lincoln cent because I thought it was a proof and not a business strike from the pictures.
I received the coin in a couple days ago and it definitely looks proof to me. Bases on the squared rims and the strike. Anyone else think it’s a 1913









proof cent?

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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,839 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Business strike.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • hummingbird_coinshummingbird_coins Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭✭✭

    https://www.lincolncentcollection.com/1913diecharacteristics.php

    It can be hard to capture many of these characteristics in a picture, so I recommend examining under magnification. One thing that did stand out to me is that your coin seems to be a match for "broken element on the left side of G in GOD".
    Diagnostic:

    Your coin:

    Young Numismatist • My Toned Coins
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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,839 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 15, 2025 1:29PM

    @hummingbird_coins said:

    It can be hard to capture many of these characteristics in a picture, so I recommend examining under magnification. One thing that did stand out to me is that your coin seems to be a match for "broken element on the left side of G in GOD".
    Diagnostic:

    Your coin:

    Look at the picture of the coin's entire reverse - third one up from the bottom picture. Have you ever seen a Matte Proof Lincoln cent with such little detail??









    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • SanddollarSanddollar Posts: 164 ✭✭✭

    Faith reigns eternal.

  • hummingbird_coinshummingbird_coins Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @hummingbird_coins said:
    https://www.lincolncentcollection.com/1913diecharacteristics.php

    It can be hard to capture many of these characteristics in a picture, so I recommend examining under magnification. One thing that did stand out to me is that your coin seems to be a match for "broken element on the left side of G in GOD".
    Diagnostic:

    Your coin:

    Look at the picture of the coin's entire reverse - third one up from the bottom picture. Have you ever seen a Matte Proof Lincoln cent with such little detail??

    Given only that picture, the texture of the luster would make me think business strike. However, the coin's appearance with different lighting is convincing enough to make me hesitate.

    Young Numismatist • My Toned Coins
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  • Hey guys, thanks for the input. I took a couple more pictures. The coin appears matt to me, but the pictures can look quite different.

  • FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 3,415 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Can you take better images in different light? Hold your phone parallel to the coin.

    Coin Photographer.

  • @FlyingAl said:
    Can you take better images in different light? Hold your phone parallel to the coin.

    Yes I will.

  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,830 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A matte proof will have sharp completely smooth rims (edge on).

  • @ambro51 said:
    A matte proof will have sharp completely smooth rims (edge on).

    Here are some more pictures including the edge. Thanks.

  • coinshopcoinshop Posts: 113 ✭✭

    business.

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  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,830 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yup. I do agree on the chipped letter, but going through all the other obverse and reverse “scratch” die markers, I see none. 1913 MPLs are known for vivid coloration. This one has no color. The rims are not matte edge sharp, and not from a polished collar.

  • Okay thank you all for your opinions. I’m a bit disappointed, but it’s still a nice coin.

  • mark_dakmark_dak Posts: 1,129 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @RonnyW said:
    Okay thank you all for your opinions. I’m a bit disappointed, but it’s still a nice coin.

    This is the best place to ask for sure... plenty of long-time collectors here with solid knowledge.

    Mark

  • CregCreg Posts: 586 ✭✭✭✭

    @RonnyW said:
    Okay thank you all for your opinions. I’m a bit disappointed, but it’s still a nice coin.

    I know your pain.

    Welcome.

  • thebeavthebeav Posts: 3,802 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 16, 2025 3:10AM

    Great looking cent !
    Also a nice job on your thread title. It's nice to have threads able to come up on a future search in a given topic.

  • MarkKelleyMarkKelley Posts: 1,899 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Matte proof Lincolns should have mirrored edges. This one does not.

  • WaterSportWaterSport Posts: 6,832 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This does not mean you should not stop looking for them in the wild. Common dates like 1910 and 1911 have been found. Plenty of folks have thought they found 1916's but thats because they reworked the die that year and there are plenty of very nice business strikes with wide rims. If you want to know more - buy Keven Flynns book, or Carl Waltz book on diagnostics. You can also study the Trueviews here on this site.

    WS

    Proud recipient of the coveted PCGS Forum "You Suck" Award Thursday July 19, 2007 11:33 PM and December 30th, 2011 at 8:50 PM.
  • @WaterSport said:
    This does not mean you should not stop looking for them in the wild. Common dates like 1910 and 1911 have been found. Plenty of folks have thought they found 1916's but thats because they reworked the die that year and there are plenty of very nice business strikes with wide rims. If you want to know more - buy Keven Flynns book, or Carl Waltz book on diagnostics. You can also study the Trueviews here on this site.

    WS

    Oh thanks. I’ll definitely do that. 👍

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