@coinkat said:
It is not the type I reverse. And the differences have not be adequately addressed. The type I features different breast feathers as well as a difference in the wing feathers. Type I is a different design. If you had a type I and type II side by side, you would immediately notice the difference. The best example I can use to sort of illustrate the point is the 1878 Morgan with the reverse of 1878 and 1879.
There are likely less than 25 type I 1971-s Ike proofs. Needless to say, they are rare and have spent decades out of the spot light. There is a numismatic mystery behind the type I reverse and there remain many unanswered questions.
Well thanks coinkat. I can certainly see a difference between that and the 1972s that I have. On the Eagles head as well as the feathers. So I still have questions that leave me needing to find the answer.
You don't.
I know that it isn't one of the prototypes and not a regular 1971s.
It is.
So the hunt for what it is goes on.
It doesn't.
Thanks for a suitable answer although it certainly says you realize there are far too many grey areas when it comes to a precise definition of what it is.
It says no such thing; that is just your delusion talking. Too bad you weren't able to learn your lesson, but that's going to take money. Probably lots of money, in your case.
Speak for yourself buddy. Some of you just have issues with anyone who doesn't think like the herd. I'm not sheeple. Go herd someone else
@coinkat said:
It is not the type I reverse. And the differences have not be adequately addressed. The type I features different breast feathers as well as a difference in the wing feathers. Type I is a different design. If you had a type I and type II side by side, you would immediately notice the difference. The best example I can use to sort of illustrate the point is the 1878 Morgan with the reverse of 1878 and 1879.
There are likely less than 25 type I 1971-s Ike proofs. Needless to say, they are rare and have spent decades out of the spot light. There is a numismatic mystery behind the type I reverse and there remain many unanswered questions.
Well thanks coinkat. I can certainly see a difference between that and the 1972s that I have. On the Eagles head as well as the feathers. So I still have questions that leave me needing to find the answer.
You don't.
I know that it isn't one of the prototypes and not a regular 1971s.
It is.
So the hunt for what it is goes on.
It doesn't.
Thanks for a suitable answer although it certainly says you realize there are far too many grey areas when it comes to a precise definition of what it is.
It says no such thing; that is just your delusion talking. Too bad you weren't able to learn your lesson, but that's going to take money. Probably lots of money, in your case.
Speak for yourself buddy. Some of you just have issues with anyone who doesn't think like the herd. I'm not sheeple. Go herd someone else
I'm speaking as an expert to someone with a delusion, and that is why you will not be able to learn your lesson here. A delusion cannot be overcome with discussion or facts. Only with lots and lots of money paid to some lucky grading company will you be able to learn your lesson.
@coinkat said:
It is not the type I reverse. And the differences have not be adequately addressed. The type I features different breast feathers as well as a difference in the wing feathers. Type I is a different design. If you had a type I and type II side by side, you would immediately notice the difference. The best example I can use to sort of illustrate the point is the 1878 Morgan with the reverse of 1878 and 1879.
There are likely less than 25 type I 1971-s Ike proofs. Needless to say, they are rare and have spent decades out of the spot light. There is a numismatic mystery behind the type I reverse and there remain many unanswered questions.
Well thanks coinkat. I can certainly see a difference between that and the 1972s that I have. On the Eagles head as well as the feathers. So I still have questions that leave me needing to find the answer.
You don't.
I know that it isn't one of the prototypes and not a regular 1971s.
It is.
So the hunt for what it is goes on.
It doesn't.
Thanks for a suitable answer although it certainly says you realize there are far too many grey areas when it comes to a precise definition of what it is.
It says no such thing; that is just your delusion talking. Too bad you weren't able to learn your lesson, but that's going to take money. Probably lots of money, in your case.
Speak for yourself buddy. Some of you just have issues with anyone who doesn't think like the herd. I'm not sheeple. Go herd someone else
I'm speaking as an expert to someone with a delusion, and that is why you will not be able to learn your lesson here. A delusion cannot be overcome with discussion or facts. Only with lots and lots of money paid to some lucky grading company will you be able to learn your lesson.
You certainly are quite full of yourself. I don't spend money on grading services not now, in the future, or ever. You want to, you can. Expert troll maybe? Why don't you go bother someone else?> @IkesT said:
What we see:
What you see:
I see a childish mind who goes around defacing people's posts. The "we" must be a little group of people who have nothing better to do with their lives than bother people who don't go around doing that to others stuff. Grow up "we".
@coinkat said:
It is not the type I reverse. And the differences have not be adequately addressed. The type I features different breast feathers as well as a difference in the wing feathers. Type I is a different design. If you had a type I and type II side by side, you would immediately notice the difference. The best example I can use to sort of illustrate the point is the 1878 Morgan with the reverse of 1878 and 1879.
There are likely less than 25 type I 1971-s Ike proofs. Needless to say, they are rare and have spent decades out of the spot light. There is a numismatic mystery behind the type I reverse and there remain many unanswered questions.
Well thanks coinkat. I can certainly see a difference between that and the 1972s that I have. On the Eagles head as well as the feathers. So I still have questions that leave me needing to find the answer.
You don't.
I know that it isn't one of the prototypes and not a regular 1971s.
It is.
So the hunt for what it is goes on.
It doesn't.
Thanks for a suitable answer although it certainly says you realize there are far too many grey areas when it comes to a precise definition of what it is.
It says no such thing; that is just your delusion talking. Too bad you weren't able to learn your lesson, but that's going to take money. Probably lots of money, in your case.
Speak for yourself buddy. Some of you just have issues with anyone who doesn't think like the herd. I'm not sheeple. Go herd someone else
I'm speaking as an expert to someone with a delusion, and that is why you will not be able to learn your lesson here. A delusion cannot be overcome with discussion or facts. Only with lots and lots of money paid to some lucky grading company will you be able to learn your lesson.
You certainly are quite full of yourself. I don't spend money on grading services not now, in the future, or ever. You want to, you can. Expert troll maybe? Why don't you go bother someone else?> @IkesT said:
What we see:
What you see:
I see a childish mind who goes around defacing people's posts. The "we" must be a little group of people who have nothing better to do with their lives than bother people who don't go around doing that to others stuff. Grow up "we".
While Ikes lacks any social graces, the point he is trying to make is valid. We get dozens of people like you dropping in and claiming to have something unique. No matter how much evidence we throw at them, they continue to think they have something unique and special. It never is.
Here you even admit it is not the Type 1 you thought it was. But rather than simply accept that you have the normal reverse, you've actually upped the ante and decide it is a unique discovery coin (Type 4?)
And that's okay. Everyone is entitled to their harmless delusions. But when you cast aspersions at others along the way, it annoys some people. This is not a good old boys club. We are not sheeple. No one is trying to rip you off or trick you. They were trying to help.
@coinkat said:
It is not the type I reverse. And the differences have not be adequately addressed. The type I features different breast feathers as well as a difference in the wing feathers. Type I is a different design. If you had a type I and type II side by side, you would immediately notice the difference. The best example I can use to sort of illustrate the point is the 1878 Morgan with the reverse of 1878 and 1879.
There are likely less than 25 type I 1971-s Ike proofs. Needless to say, they are rare and have spent decades out of the spot light. There is a numismatic mystery behind the type I reverse and there remain many unanswered questions.
Well thanks coinkat. I can certainly see a difference between that and the 1972s that I have. On the Eagles head as well as the feathers. So I still have questions that leave me needing to find the answer.
You don't.
I know that it isn't one of the prototypes and not a regular 1971s.
It is.
So the hunt for what it is goes on.
It doesn't.
Thanks for a suitable answer although it certainly says you realize there are far too many grey areas when it comes to a precise definition of what it is.
It says no such thing; that is just your delusion talking. Too bad you weren't able to learn your lesson, but that's going to take money. Probably lots of money, in your case.
Speak for yourself buddy. Some of you just have issues with anyone who doesn't think like the herd. I'm not sheeple. Go herd someone else
I'm speaking as an expert to someone with a delusion, and that is why you will not be able to learn your lesson here. A delusion cannot be overcome with discussion or facts. Only with lots and lots of money paid to some lucky grading company will you be able to learn your lesson.
You certainly are quite full of yourself. I don't spend money on grading services not now, in the future, or ever. You want to, you can. Expert troll maybe? Why don't you go bother someone else?> @IkesT said:
What we see:
What you see:
I see a childish mind who goes around defacing people's posts. The "we" must be a little group of people who have nothing better to do with their lives than bother people who don't go around doing that to others stuff. Grow up "we".
While Ikes lacks any social graces, the point he is trying to make is valid. We get dozens of people like you dropping in and claiming to have something unique. No matter how much evidence we throw at them, they continue to think they have something unique and special. It never is.
Here you even admit it is not the Type 1 you thought it was. But rather than simply accept that you have the normal reverse, you've actually upped the ante and decide it is a unique discovery coin (Type 4?)
And that's okay. Everyone is entitled to their harmless delusions. But when you cast aspersions at others along the way, it annoys some people. This is not a good old boys club. We are not sheeple. No one is trying to rip you off or trick you. They were trying to help.
This is a very solid jmlanzaf post, so I hope that @Camh61 appreciates the effort that went into it. No hand-waving or overreaching, and hardly any spelling errors. The "social graces" bit was a misdirection, but to be fair, he's probably still chagrinned about that little faux-pas from his earlier comment. I have to deduct some credit for that off-color joke, but if he can just work on improving his social graces, this could be the start of a real return to form for jmlanzaf. 👍
But my Moose doesn't care about Ike. It just doesn't understand varieties lol
What about mine?
God bless all who believe in him. Do unto others what you expect to be done to you. Dubbed a "Committee Secret Agent" by @mr1931S on 7/23/24. Founding member of CU Anti-Troll League since 9/24/24.
I don't know for sure. And I am trying to weed out the truth since these sites all have a different idea of what that coin is. Possibly get all these "experts" to put their heads together and come up with one "standardized" definition.
One thing I have found out is that in the 3 pictures of the Type 1 is that the Earth is flat from 9-12 o'clock and the designer initials FG have the straight longer upswinging "g" without the serif as mine does
Here is a flat earth:
I came, I saw, I commented, I left for the time being.
God bless all who believe in him. Do unto others what you expect to be done to you. Dubbed a "Committee Secret Agent" by @mr1931S on 7/23/24. Founding member of CU Anti-Troll League since 9/24/24.
Although the earth islands on Proof 1971-S Ikes look nothing like a Type 1 coin and this thread should have been answered quickly at the top of page 1 there might be a very slim possibility that the OP thinks he sees some minor differences on other parts of his normal coin from other normal 1971-S Proofs. Unfortunately, his images suck. It is a shame some discussions run into brick walls from us new members. Please try to be patient as you all know more than we do!
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Speak for yourself buddy. Some of you just have issues with anyone who doesn't think like the herd. I'm not sheeple. Go herd someone else
I'm speaking as an expert to someone with a delusion, and that is why you will not be able to learn your lesson here. A delusion cannot be overcome with discussion or facts. Only with lots and lots of money paid to some lucky grading company will you be able to learn your lesson.
What we see:
What you see:
You certainly are quite full of yourself. I don't spend money on grading services not now, in the future, or ever. You want to, you can. Expert troll maybe? Why don't you go bother someone else?> @IkesT said:
I see a childish mind who goes around defacing people's posts. The "we" must be a little group of people who have nothing better to do with their lives than bother people who don't go around doing that to others stuff. Grow up "we".
While Ikes lacks any social graces, the point he is trying to make is valid. We get dozens of people like you dropping in and claiming to have something unique. No matter how much evidence we throw at them, they continue to think they have something unique and special. It never is.
Here you even admit it is not the Type 1 you thought it was. But rather than simply accept that you have the normal reverse, you've actually upped the ante and decide it is a unique discovery coin (Type 4?)
And that's okay. Everyone is entitled to their harmless delusions. But when you cast aspersions at others along the way, it annoys some people. This is not a good old boys club. We are not sheeple. No one is trying to rip you off or trick you. They were trying to help.
This is a very solid jmlanzaf post, so I hope that @Camh61 appreciates the effort that went into it. No hand-waving or overreaching, and hardly any spelling errors. The "social graces" bit was a misdirection, but to be fair, he's probably still chagrinned about that little faux-pas from his earlier comment. I have to deduct some credit for that off-color joke, but if he can just work on improving his social graces, this could be the start of a real return to form for jmlanzaf. 👍
What about mine?
God bless all who believe in him. Do unto others what you expect to be done to you. Dubbed a "Committee Secret Agent" by @mr1931S on 7/23/24. Founding member of CU Anti-Troll League since 9/24/24.
Here is a flat earth:
I came, I saw, I commented, I left for the time being.
God bless all who believe in him. Do unto others what you expect to be done to you. Dubbed a "Committee Secret Agent" by @mr1931S on 7/23/24. Founding member of CU Anti-Troll League since 9/24/24.
Although the earth islands on Proof 1971-S Ikes look nothing like a Type 1 coin and this thread should have been answered quickly at the top of page 1 there might be a very slim possibility that the OP thinks he sees some minor differences on other parts of his normal coin from other normal 1971-S Proofs. Unfortunately, his images suck. It is a shame some discussions run into brick walls from us new members. Please try to be patient as you all know more than we do!