2025 Batman, Superman, and Wonderwoman gold coins
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I was surprised to see the mint will be releasing Batman, Superman, and Wonderwoman coins later this year in gold in the the one-half ounce size.
This is a picture of the possible Superman coin.
There is an interesting split in the release schedule for these three coins, the Batman and Superman should be released this Summer, and the Wonderwoman coin in the Fall. This is important because the number of coins they make may be impacted by the split schedule.
Since the coins are in 1/2 ounce, that is an unpopular size for collectors. The question is what mintage should the mint use to make these too?
I am guessing that the mint does 5,000 of each coin, and this would ensure a sell-out. Since it is only in proof, there is no UNC coin to take away sales. This is what the mint did with the special reverse proof Mayflower gold coin, and it worked out well.
The mint may go higher, and go for a 10k mintage, and it would stretch out sales, however comic books may not be popular for gold coins. There are silver medals of these coins that may cut into sales as well for gold.
Also, the Wonderwoman being released after the first two may affect how many they ultimately make for her. If the first two don't sell well, they strike less Wonderwoman in the Fall, and she ends up with a lower mintage.
The mint might not post mintages until a month or so before sales start so we have to wait to see.
"This new series will feature nine iconic superheroes depicted on 24-karat gold coins, .999 fine silver medals, and non-precious metal (clad) medals. Debuting in summer 2025 with Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman, the three-year series will include six additional DC characters—three each in 2026 and 2027."
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Isn't 1oz the $50 usual? Why the change for these?
I have a tube of the silver Superman Maples from back when, could be tempted with one of these.
It will be interesting to see what the actual minted coin will look like. For now, all I see is John Travolta.
I expect they will assign a maximum mintage of 17,500, but only make 10,000 and have a quick sellout, and then state a revised product limit of 10,000, so that this thread will continue to infinity like the flowing hair one, waiting for the mystery 7,500 that will be sold sometime in 2026, or not
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It's by FAR the most commercial thing they have ever done. The second after what they did with ASE privys, and probably not the last. They have a corporate partner here.
Did they set ASE privy mintages at 5-10K? Or even 50-100K? No, they were set at 500K, because that's what the corporate sponsor wanted. Small enough to be able to sell at a significant premium to ordinary ASEs, and large enough to make a lot of money selling them.
They are not going to set mintages at a low number to ensure a sellout and to create a profitable flip for others. They will mint as many as market research tells them they will be able to sell. I have no idea what that number is, but it's not going to be anywhere close to 5-10K, given how many one ounce collector coins they sell in any given flavor.
And given pop culture demand for something like this that goes way beyond the denizens of this forum. That's the market they are trying to cultivate, and it will be a huge fail if they make 5K that are gobbled up a few of us, ABPPPs and bots in a few minutes, only to appear for sale on eBay moments later at a multiple of the Mint issue price. That will be a mega turn off to the folks they are trying to reel in with these.
No. They will price them obnoxiously high, and then make as many as they think they can sell in order to create a market for these that transcends traditional numismatics. Whether they succeed, or whether these crash and burn, will totally depend on how they are priced and how many they make. But don't waste you time licking your chops in anticipation of a low mintage flip with these. Never gonna happen.
You have to thank Joe Menna for these coins.
An easy pass.
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Yes, I expect them to do that, and for the first two to not sell what many expect. These will be DOA as far as investments go if they sell over 10k, as right now 10k for a half ounce gold coin is about what the market expects. There were only about 12k 1/2 ounce proof buffalo sold in 2008 at lower gold prices, and that was a classic design.
These coins have many cheaper competitors that have already been made by other mints, I looked up on Ebay and nearly all were selling for below $50. The two-face coin seems to be the one most people are buying online. If they do these for more than one year, then expect declining sales for each design, as few will be able to buy a full set when it spans multiple years with nine designs (and certainly not 10k collectors).
The US Mint is the 800 pound gorilla in the space. Unique onto itself, without true competition. There is no such thing as a $50 competitor to a half ounce gold US Mint product. Period.
Canada made something similar around 10 years ago. Half as much gold, with mintages around 2-3K. The US market is FAR larger. The US Mint is much bigger.
Again, the US Mint, in partnership with its DC Comics corporate partner, will squeeze as much out of this as possible, and make as many as they think they can sell at the highest price they think the market will bear.
They will be DOA as investments by design, because they are being made to feed a commercial market. The objective will be to generate as much revenue as possible for DC Comics and the Mint. Not to create lasting value for buyers. The hoped-for buyers will not be investors, or even traditional coin collectors. They will be pop culture fans, comic book fans, etc.
The Mint easily sold 10K one ounce FH gold coins in 4 minutes. They could have sold double that, or more.
Look to that as a guide for what they are going to try to do with a half ounce Superman coin. I think 50K is a more reasonable guess than 10K. I'm not saying they'll actually be able to sell that many, depending on pricing. Just that that's a good ballpark for what they are going to try. Certainly not 5-10K.
Whether or not the series has legs over 3 years is anyone's guess. But I just don't see the Mint, with DC Comics at its side, leaving money on the table up front in an attempt to sustain interest over 3 years. They'll strike while the iron is hot, and just not hit their authorized maximum if interest wanes in the future. Just like they did with the FH gold coin. 😀
They are starting with what are undoubtedly their 3 most popular characters for a reason. I think everyone anticipates people becoming bored and moving on before the series concludes. So they are going to make what they can while they can.
The 2-1/2 ounce silver medals will be interesting, but if they are the sandblasted finish, less so. A proof or BU finish on a big medal with the character as a cameo would be nice but probably will cost $250 the way things are going. The half ounce gold mint price might be close to $2,000 by summer, which will hurt sales numbers a bit no matter what the sponsor wants.
It will be the one-ounce silver medals that will sell better to comic and movie DVD type collectors, even if they are $100 each.
They should do a presale order or subscription for all these like they are doing for the Marines commemorative which does not ship till Feb 11 but can order today. Then mint to demand if they want to give an opportunity for everyone to own what they want. The max mintage vs production guessing game is a fiasco.
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The USM Numi dept. is turning itself into just another boutique outlet like Niue, Fiji, and RCM just to name a few...
DC Comics--ok, but why stop there? How about Marvel, and Bud Light next so that they 'feel included'?
"It's by FAR the most commercial thing they have ever done"...
I'll respectfully disagree. The USM NBBP, and ABPP are the biggest commercial cash cow programs that the Mint has ever come up with by FAR imo. Our esteemed hosts(all TPG's)have enjoyed the ride to riches on the backs of these programs as well I'm sure(Advance this, First day that)...
Nothing wrong with those programs, as distribution to the public is important--to a point. Such as the FHG(and Silver Privy craze)for example, those should've been offered to the public only imo.
A lot of those 1,794 silver privies are in tight hands or are being held back deliberately. Not as many available in the market as I initially expected. I think the advance purchasers got a lot of them and might be selling them slowly to keep the price high.
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I looked up the 1/2 ounce proof gold eagle, and it sells for $1775. Times nine equals 16k. It's unlikely that many comic book readers are willing to put out 16k for all nine gold coins from the mint. This is why I say a 5k mintage makes sense.
I expect mintages in the 50,000 range. They might even go higher or unlimited. You might even see silver in the post office. They aren't creating these for coin collectors. They are creating them for much broader distribution.
I think they(AP's) did get a lot of them, and too many at that. Maybe they're holding some back? But typically, they like to strike while the iron is hot!...
I wonder if these same AP's had a "say-so" in the latest GS report? ⇊
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I would have tight hands too. I predicted that in a year that they(Ag Privy) will go for around 2k. We'll see?
Pass.
Nice math, but they are not going to try to sell 9 at once, only in a complete set, for $16K. Put 5K half ounce gold proof Superman coins on sale for $1800, and they will sell out in 2 minutes, and be on eBay 5 minutes later for $4K each.
Not gonna happen. They will try to sell as many as they think they can.
One at a time. When demand falls off a cliff, they'll adjust accordingly.
If the alternative is to knee cap sales up front to avoid having them fall later, what on earth would motivate them to do that? The whole idea here is to make money and hopefully stimulate demand from new sources. Not to feed us with very low mintage colorized collectables, in partnership with a comic book company.
Not for me and they would be a tough resell over melt.
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