So does that mean Emmitt Smith is the greatest rusher in NFL history?
Congratulations to Ovechkin, but I think he took a LOT more shots to get there.
Gretzky's shooting % was 17.5 Ovechkin's is 13.1
Ovie played against superior goaltending and defense. If he played during the 80s he could have scored 100+ goals in a season. Look at the highest goal scoring seasons in NHL history, the 2000s only factor twice in the top 25 while Gretzky's era has 19 of the top 25. It was indisputably easier to score while Gretzky was playing.
I think Gretzky is the greatest hockey player of all time but Ovie is the the greatest scorer.
@fergie23 said: So does that mean Emmitt Smith is the greatest rusher in NFL history?
Congratulations to Ovechkin, but I think he took a LOT more shots to get there.
Gretzky's shooting % was 17.5 Ovechkin's is 13.1
Ovie played against superior goaltending and defense. If he played during the 80s he could have scored 100+ goals in a season. Look at the highest goal scoring seasons in NHL history, the 2000s only factor twice in the top 25 while Gretzky's era has 19 of the top 25. It was indisputably easier to score while Gretzky was playing.
I think Gretzky is the greatest hockey player of all time but Ovie is the the greatest scorer.
Robb
Same way in baseball almost everyone will say Babe Ruth was the best ever even if he if not the hit king or HR king either. Holding 1 record does not make anyone the GOAT.
Wayne Gretzky will always be the GOAT when it comes to hockey no one will ever pass his points total or many of his other records.
Like I said Ovi simply has the goal record same as Berry Bonds with HR in MLB or Pete Rose with hits.
@fergie23 said: So does that mean Emmitt Smith is the greatest rusher in NFL history?
Congratulations to Ovechkin, but I think he took a LOT more shots to get there.
Gretzky's shooting % was 17.5 Ovechkin's is 13.1
Ovie played against superior goaltending and defense. If he played during the 80s he could have scored 100+ goals in a season. Look at the highest goal scoring seasons in NHL history, the 2000s only factor twice in the top 25 while Gretzky's era has 19 of the top 25. It was indisputably easier to score while Gretzky was playing.
I think Gretzky is the greatest hockey player of all time but Ovie is the the greatest scorer.
Robb
Ovie got a lot more power play and empty net goals to be considered the "greatest goal scorer" it also took WAY more shots on goal to get the same results.
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Both guys were decimated by injury but Mike Bossy and Mario Lemieux were probably the greatest goal scorers ever. Both averaged 62 goals per 82 games, with Bossy finishing with a career 21.2% shooting percentage and Mario at 19.0. Mario - and Ovi - indisputably played at least part of their careers in eras that were far more difficult to score in than Gretzky or Bossy, however.
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Both guys were decimated by injury but Mike Bossy and Mario Lemieux were probably the greatest goal scorers ever. Both averaged 62 goals per 82 games, with Bossy finishing with a career 21.2% shooting percentage and Mario at 19.0. Mario - and Ovi - indisputably played at least part of their careers in eras that were far more difficult to score in than Gretzky or Bossy, however.
This statement makes a lot of sense to me.
Brett Hull was deadly too.
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congrats to Ovi. I remember when Gretzky retired back in 99 thinking no one will EVER break that record.
I guess i was wrong...
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
So does that mean Emmitt Smith is the greatest rusher in NFL history?
Congratulations to Ovechkin, but I think he took a LOT more shots to get there.
Gretzky's shooting % was 17.5
Ovechkin's is 13.1
No one said Ovechkin is the GOAT now he simply has the goal record.
So does that mean Emmitt Smith is the greatest rusher in NFL history?
Congratulations to Ovechkin, but I think he took a LOT more shots to get there.
Gretzky's shooting % was 17.5
Ovechkin's is 13.1
Ovie played against superior goaltending and defense. If he played during the 80s he could have scored 100+ goals in a season. Look at the highest goal scoring seasons in NHL history, the 2000s only factor twice in the top 25 while Gretzky's era has 19 of the top 25. It was indisputably easier to score while Gretzky was playing.
I think Gretzky is the greatest hockey player of all time but Ovie is the the greatest scorer.
Robb
Same way in baseball almost everyone will say Babe Ruth was the best ever even if he if not the hit king or HR king either. Holding 1 record does not make anyone the GOAT.
Wayne Gretzky will always be the GOAT when it comes to hockey no one will ever pass his points total or many of his other records.
Like I said Ovi simply has the goal record same as Berry Bonds with HR in MLB or Pete Rose with hits.
The statement was "greatest goal scorer" ............he's NOT.
He does have the most goals.
Ovie got a lot more power play and empty net goals to be considered the "greatest goal scorer" it also took WAY more shots on goal to get the same results.
Both guys were decimated by injury but Mike Bossy and Mario Lemieux were probably the greatest goal scorers ever. Both averaged 62 goals per 82 games, with Bossy finishing with a career 21.2% shooting percentage and Mario at 19.0. Mario - and Ovi - indisputably played at least part of their careers in eras that were far more difficult to score in than Gretzky or Bossy, however.
coming at this as a non hockey expert, how do we define "greatest" goal scorer?
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
This statement makes a lot of sense to me.
Brett Hull was deadly too.
Any player in any sport has to have "numbers" to be considered the greatest at anything, so you need to look at most career goals to begin.
I would then go to shooting %.
If it's close, I would check E.N. and P.P. numbers.
understood. so a blend of a few different stats. makes sense.
in baseball it also is not so cut and dried.
Bonds has both the single season and all time home run records, but Mcgwire has both the all time best AB/HR ratio and PA/HR ratio's
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
NEITHER of those guys could carry Ted Williams' jockstrap........or the Babe's.
That may be Joe, but "those guys" were better home run hitters than Ted and The Babe
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
little bronnie has a shot surely?
Not without the juice. Not by a LONG SHOT.