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1975 No S proof ikr Everyone has one

Vicky247Vicky247 Posts: 10
edited December 23, 2024 6:12PM in Q & A Forum

I'm almost sure my nephew has a 1975 no s proof dime. I know the odd of having this dime are slim to none. That's why I've tried everything to debunk this dime. I know billions of 1975 regular dimes with no mintmark has been made. I even bought a 1975 S proof dime to compare under magnification. I cannot prove this is no a 1975 proof dime. Please look at the pictures and let know your opinions.



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  • IkesTIkesT Posts: 3,303 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very funny. I gave you an 'LOL'.

  • Um sorry I don't understand the joke. I'm very new to this. Can I have your opinions on whether these two dimes are proofs?

  • IkesTIkesT Posts: 3,303 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 23, 2024 5:40PM

    You're "very new to this" and yet you're "almost sure" that you have a 1975 no S proof?

    How and why would you even think that you had a no S proof?

  • I never said that I have anything. I think my nephew has a 1975 no S proof dime. And yes I am new to this. That's why I bought a 1975 S proof dime to compare.
    Maybe I should edit to ask others opinions. But it looks like a proof dime

  • IkesTIkesT Posts: 3,303 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Vicky247 said:
    But it looks like a proof dime

    It doesn't and it isn't.

  • emeraldATVemeraldATV Posts: 4,691 ✭✭✭✭✭

    When someone chimes in, or questions about, a, ( "any no mm" ) no S, 1975 dime, that has exploded on to the coin collecting scene, just remember the number one aspect of their questions. "We have company".
    Secondly, They took the time to show their interest, weather any one care's or not..
    What's with all the negativity, like your an unhappy worker, with no interest in their interest of collecting .
    .
    Sorry Bubba , ( @IkesT ) your not the only one. Just the right place @ the wrong time.
    I don't think I have the exact information the interested party here needs.
    But that's just me being me.
    Keep your chin up.

    Carry on.

  • lcutlerlcutler Posts: 569 ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 24, 2024 12:47AM

    Not a proof and the strike really doesn't resemble one. Proof coins are struck on specially prepared planchets and dies at higher pressure and or multiple strikes to get a coin with the sharpest details possible for collectors. Look at the weakness in WE, the detail in Roosevelt's head, the lack of a sharp well-defined rim, the list can go on and on. The reverse shows lack of detail as well on the torch, this is a common weak area for regular business strikes. The only way one of these coins is going to be found is by finding unsearched proof sets, they were not released into circulation.

  • I also am new. I am here to gain knowledge, and my plan is to be successful at that. I have posted a few questions myself and personally appreciate the good answers I have gotten. Keep it up man.

    Tim

  • @lcutler said:
    Look at the weakness in WE, The only way one of these coins is going to be found is by finding unsearched proof sets, they were not released into circulation.

    I got my nephew to sent me a picture of the "WE" under magnification. I guess it looks weaker than the other letters.
    People find proof coins in circulation all the time. I'm surprised you haven't. But I'm not saying my nephew for this dime in circulation. I don't know where or when he acquired it.

  • IkesTIkesT Posts: 3,303 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Vicky247 said:

    @lcutler said:
    Look at the weakness in WE, The only way one of these coins is going to be found is by finding unsearched proof sets, they were not released into circulation.

    I got my nephew to sent me a picture of the "WE" under magnification. I guess it looks weaker than the other letters.
    People find proof coins in circulation all the time. I'm surprised you haven't. But I'm not saying my nephew for this dime in circulation. I don't know where or when he acquired it.

    Please leave your nephew alone. His coins are none of your business.

    He deserves to enjoy his hobby without your interference, and without having his head filled with wild delusions.

  • lcutlerlcutler Posts: 569 ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 25, 2024 1:24AM

    @Vicky247 said:

    @lcutler said:
    Look at the weakness in WE, The only way one of these coins is going to be found is by finding unsearched proof sets, they were not released into circulation.

    I got my nephew to sent me a picture of the "WE" under magnification. I guess it looks weaker than the other letters.
    People find proof coins in circulation all the time. I'm surprised you haven't. But I'm not saying my nephew for this dime in circulation. I don't know where or when he acquired it.

    Yes, proof coins are found in circulation, but how do they get there? Usually, it is by dealers or collectors intentionally doing so. It might be a proof with issues or one separated from the rest of the set, if that was the case it would require a dealer or collector intentionally returning one to circulation. Possible? technically yes but highly unlikely! I'll stand by the only way one is going to be found is by searching previously unchecked proof sets. Regardless of this, the coin posted shows no resemblance to a proof so I know it didn't come from a proof set, that's why I made the comment about them not being found in circulation. Your additional pictures show quite a bit of die deterioration, another sign of a business strike. A proof die would be retired long before this. regardless, welcome to the forum, hopefully you will hang around, it is a great hobby and always more to learn. I've been collecting for 55 years and learn new things all the time.

  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,773 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As a reminder, "proof" refers to a method of manufacture, not a condition.

    The no-S coin shown in the OP is not a proof coin. It does not have the characteristics of a proof coin.

    Also, the actual proof coin shown for comparison has been mishandled (as evidenced by the photo with all the dimes in the palm of a hand). That mishandling is lowering its apparent quality to somehow make it more comparable to the business strike.

  • Vicky247Vicky247 Posts: 10
    edited December 25, 2024 6:46AM

    Please leave your nephew alone. His coins are none of your business.

    He deserves to enjoy his hobby without your interference, and without having his head filled with wild delusions.

    He contacted ME and asked me to post pictures and get opinions. I don't go around ask everyone to show me their coins and tell them they are valuable as your wild delusional mind would suggest. I literally registered a account and this is my FIRST post.
    Internet trolls like you are the reason why people don't post and ask for help or opinions. You so miserable in your life that it only you feel better is to put people down and be condescending. Just like ignorant people, can't use facts to make your point across so you have to resort to name calling. I feel sorry for you. But I feel more sorry for the people that have to be around you everyday. Who acts like this on Christmas?

  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,773 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 25, 2024 7:47AM

    Who acts like this on Christmas?

    Apparently you do. :/

  • @JBK said:

    Who acts like this on Christmas?

    Apparently you do. :/

    I was provoked. I never said anything negative or condescending to him. Then he tells me to leave my family alone and his coin is none of my business. My relationship with my family is none of his business I asked about my nephew dime. I didn't ask for your or anyone else crazy delusional assumption about me and my family. So mind your business.
    My nephew asked me for my help. I've never even heard about a "no mintmark" until he contacted me.
    And now, I understand why he didn't want to post it himself.

  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,773 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 26, 2024 2:23PM

    @Vicky247 said:

    @JBK said:

    Who acts like this on Christmas?

    Apparently you do. :/

    I was provoked. I never said anything negative or condescending to him. Then he tells me to leave my family alone and his coin is none of my business. My relationship with my family is none of his business I asked about my nephew dime. I didn't ask for your or anyone else crazy delusional assumption about me and my family. So mind your business.

    I never said anything about your family and yet you've attacked me and called me delusional. You are exactly the sort of rude internet bully you accuse others of being.

  • IkesTIkesT Posts: 3,303 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Vicky247 Please leave @JBK alone; he is a valued member of this Forum.

  • BarberianBarberian Posts: 3,696 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2, 2025 10:52PM

    @Vicky247, look at the photos of the coins you showed above. Proof coins have reflective, mirrored fields. Mint state (MS) coins lack mirrored fields but show luster, that coruscating flash of light one sees when one rocks an uncirculated coin tilted towards a light source. Proof coins also are very well struck (show more detail) and have squared off rims that are not found on regular mint strikes.

    Looking at your photos, one can clearly spot the Proof from the other Mint State coins. In the paired photos against a gray background, the Proof is on the right, the MS coin is on the left showing its strong luster. The only proof I see has a mint mark S. The others are mint state or lightly circulated regular coins

    Homework assignment: Have your nephew look up photos of and learn to recognize the difference between proof coins and MS coins. Also, consider purchasing a "Guidebook to US Coins," also referred to as the "Redbook" and read it or give it to your nephew.

    Yes. The chance of finding a proof 75 no S dime in circulation is very, very remote because they were only found in proof sets that were not released into circulation.

    Sorry for the rude treatment here. The board gets these questions often, and the discussions deteriorate because either 1) an experienced collector who could tell proofs from MS coins when he was 7 years old, gets somewhat rude and insults the OP, or 2) the OP distrusts the proper evaluation of the coin by members here as being worth considerably less than they WANT TO BELIEVE and gets rude with members. This time, it was the former case, and I apologize for the rudeness you received here.

    The last "question post" was from someone who didn't trust our assessment that his 1951-D cent was only worth 5 cents and not the thousands of dollars various eBay scammers were asking for the same date and condition. These are simple things that experienced collectors learned in early grade school and sometimes lack empathy towards those new to coins asking these questions, particularly when the neophyte lacks self-awareness (unaware of what he doesn't know), lets pride get in the way, and questions the experienced collector's or dealer's solid knowledge.

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  • IkesTIkesT Posts: 3,303 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Barberian I appreciate your intentions, but you've missed the mark. It's not that I do not have empathy, it's that in this case I have empathy for the person whose hobby is apparently being spoiled by a pushy relative who sees dollars signs.

    The bottom line is that it really puts me off to see someone interfering in someone else's hobby, especially when that person has no knowledge whatsoever, and when it's over a coin where there's an obvious profit motive, and especially if they are interfering with a child. That's just not right.

    I'm sorry if my comments were not welcoming or encouraging enough, but that's just not the kind of behavior I want to encourage. I don't believe the OP had a genuine interest in coins, in any case. If there wasn't such a large profit motive attached to the coin, I don't believe they would even be here.

  • BarberianBarberian Posts: 3,696 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You don't need to apologize to me. I've done the same thing to other people asking non-hobbyists "dumb questions" about coins. What sets me off is when coin-ignorant people keep arguing with subject matter experts after they've given a proper informed opinion.

    She was ignorant about proof and mint state coins and just wanted someone's opinion. Of course she is motivated by greed, just like everyone else here is. What she didn't have is an answer to her question to set her and her nephew straight as to what he has. All she received in the first few responses was sarcasm which made her defensive.

    How was she interfering with someone else's hobby by inquiring AT HIS REQUEST about her son's coin?

    I posted what I did because it was clear the coin is not a proof, and now she has some information that can convince her nephew it isn't a proof either.

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  • @lcutler said:

    The only way one of these coins is going to be found is by finding unsearched proof sets, they were not released into circulation.

    Yes, proof coins are found in circulation, but how do they get there? Usually, it is by dealers or collectors intentionally doing so.
    Wait, aren't proof coins and/or proof sets more expensive than the coin's face value?
    So, coin collectors and dealers paid more for proofs to spend?

    That doesn't make sense at all.

    My friend's father had a proof coin that was worth much but he considered it lucky. When he died, my friend became the owner and it was priceless, to her. Her not-so-good son stole it hoping to sell it for....well, IDK. She confronted her son, pleaded and offered hundreds to take her to wherever he sold it. The coin was valued for $30.
    He told her "I couldn't sell it so I just spent it."
    Now, that is how proofs can becomes circulated coins.
    Not by coin collectors or dealers. By people that don't know their values or don't have values to understand coins can be worth more than monetary denominations.

    Btw, below is a picture of the 1975 dime my nephew (who is NOT a coin collector) found in circulation, beside a 2024 dime.

  • Apparently you do.

    I was provoked. I never said anything negative or condescending to him. Then he tells me to leave my family alone and his coin is none of my business. My relationship with my family is none of his business I asked about my nephew dime. I didn't ask for your or anyone else crazy delusional assumption about me and my family. So mind your business.

    I never said anything about your family and yet you've attacked me and called me delusional. You are exactly the sort of rude internet bully you accuse others of being.

    Im sure you said > @IkesT said:

    @Barberian I appreciate your intentions, but you've missed the mark. It's not that I do not have empathy, it's that in this case I have empathy for the person whose hobby is apparently being spoiled by a pushy relative who sees dollars signs.

    The bottom line is that it really puts me off to see someone interfering in someone else's hobby, especially when that person has no knowledge whatsoever, and when it's over a coin where there's an obvious profit motive, and especially if they are interfering with a child. That's just not right.

    I'm sorry if my comments were not welcoming or encouraging enough, but that's just not the kind of behavior I want to encourage. I don't believe the OP had a genuine interest in coins, in any case. If there wasn't such a large profit motive attached to the coin, I don't believe they would even be here.

    Once again, your bias assumptions of yourself and/or your family is being pushed on to people who literally come here for help.
    I said "I'm almost 90 percent sure after Trying to DEBUNK it" I didn't say, I told my nephew that. I didn't say, I told anyone that. I know I don't have to expertise to even assume that.
    As far as "seeing dollars signs". I have everything I need and more. I'm truly blessed 🙏.
    And why would I get money from my nephew coin? He's over 18. I would not have any right or claims to anything he owns. Where would you get an idea like that? And even if he was under 18 wouldn't it be under he's parents control?
    Once again crazy delusional assumptions is just causing you to look foolish.

  • @Barberian said:
    You don't need to apologize to me. I've done the same thing to other people asking non-hobbyists "dumb questions" about coins. What sets me off is when coin-ignorant people keep arguing with subject matter experts after they've given a proper informed opinion.

    She was ignorant about proof and mint state coins and just wanted someone's opinion. Of course she is motivated by greed, just like everyone else here is. What she didn't have is an answer to her question to set her and her nephew straight as to what he has. All she received in the first few responses was sarcasm which made her defensive.

    How was she interfering with someone else's hobby by inquiring AT HIS REQUEST about her son's coin?

    I posted what I did because it was clear the coin is not a proof, and now she has some information that can convince her nephew it isn't a proof either.

    My nephew and family means more to me than any dime could ever be.I'm not motivated by greed. I don't need any more money than I already have. And another thing, I don't have any rights or claims to anything my nephew owns. Where are you people getting this from? Do people post about OTHER people's coins on here to get money? I don't think that's even possible. So it's truly sad that you own experience or family makes you think that the only reason family helps family is for money. And again, HOW would I get money from this? I could ask my family for anything and they would give me all they had, as I would them. I thought all family were like that. I guess that my bias experience.

  • BarberianBarberian Posts: 3,696 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 11, 2025 7:07PM

    @Vicky247 said:

    @Barberian said:
    You don't need to apologize to me. I've done the same thing to other people asking non-hobbyists "dumb questions" about coins. What sets me off is when coin-ignorant people keep arguing with subject matter experts after they've given a proper informed opinion.

    She was ignorant about proof and mint state coins and just wanted someone's opinion. Of course she is motivated by greed, just like everyone else here is. What she didn't have is an answer to her question to set her and her nephew straight as to what he has. All she received in the first few responses was sarcasm which made her defensive.

    How was she interfering with someone else's hobby by inquiring AT HIS REQUEST about her son's coin?

    I posted what I did because it was clear the coin is not a proof, and now she has some information that can convince her nephew it isn't a proof either.

    My nephew and family means more to me than any dime could ever be.I'm not motivated by greed. I don't need any more money than I already have. And another thing, I don't have any rights or claims to anything my nephew owns. Where are you people getting this from? Do people post about OTHER people's coins on here to get money? I don't think that's even possible. So it's truly sad that you own experience or family makes you think that the only reason family helps family is for money. And again, HOW would I get money from this? I could ask my family for anything and they would give me all they had, as I would them. I thought all family were like that. I guess that my bias experience.

    >

    Does he understand the difference between a proof coin and a normal, "business strike" coin now? He has a business strike dime with no mintmark, and one can tell by the rims, the strike, and the presence of luster over the entire surface on his coin.

    Sooo, why is your nephew all excited about a possible no-S proof dime? Why do people pick up a quarter lying on the ground? Why do people save old coins? You're taking the word "greed" to negative extremes. Everyone wants to know if their coin is a scarce, valuable coin.

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  • @JBK said:

    @Vicky247 said:

    @JBK said:

    Who acts like this on Christmas?

    Apparently you do. :/

    I was provoked. I never said anything negative or condescending to him. Then he tells me to leave my family alone and his coin is none of my business. My relationship with my family is none of his business I asked about my nephew dime. I didn't ask for your or anyone else crazy delusional assumption about me and my family. So mind your business.

    I never said anything about your family and yet you've attacked me and called me delusional. You are exactly the sort of rude internet bully you accuse others of being.

    You said "apparently you do" when I was was standing up for myself. Someone that doesn't know my or my family is telling me to leave my family alone on Christmas. Then, I'm a troll. You were making it your business to comment that I'm was wrong to tell people to mind their business when it comes to me and my family.

    When people disagree with me I don't lash out and call people names. When it was said that the dime has a weak "WE"
    ",I agreed. I said that it does look weaker than the other letters and posted a picture. And that deserves a response that I was delusional, mistreating or even taking advantage of my family and I should leave them alone.? And when you commented with "apparently you dol" you jump into the conversation that had nothing to do with you. Your commented implied that I was wrong to stand up for myself and my family even though I didn't say anything to start any of this. Why did you jump in when it had nothing to do with you? Why didn't you say anything to the person that started this? Why am I the only one at fault? And why is my comment that is agreeing and posting a picture my nephew sent me, making people so mad they start trolling? Is it because the more pictures I post the more I'm wrong? Hmmm Why would that make anyone mad? I didn't say anything negatively to anyone who commented on the DIME. But I did lash out to people that say I'm motivated by greed and seeing "dollars signs". And again, how or why would people think I have a right or claim on my nephew's property? If he was under 18, wouldn't it be under his parents' control? Even If, I was this horrible person they say I am, how am I getting money by posting about my NEPHEW'S'dime? I'm publicly admitting that I don't own it and I don't know where he acquired it But I know now.

    BTW you're right, 1975 was found in circulation. Just like this 1976 and 1978 dime. And the 2024 dime. Oh I'm posting more pictures. I wonder if it's going to be constructive criticism or trolling ill try not to respond negativity. I know people use trolling and name calling when they aren't smart enough to use words, to express themselves.


  • IkesTIkesT Posts: 3,303 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 12, 2025 12:26AM

    @Vicky247 said:
    Oh I'm posting more pictures. I wonder if it's going to be constructive criticism or trolling ill try not to respond negativity.

    You've already been informed by 4 different people that the coin is a business strike and not a proof, yet you continue posting more photos, as if you expect to receive a different answer.

  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,773 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 12, 2025 2:07AM

    @Vicky247 said:
    I know people use trolling and name calling when they aren't smart enough to use words, to express themselves.

    So now you're calling us stupid...

  • giantsfan20giantsfan20 Posts: 1,569 ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 12, 2025 12:48PM

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