What coins will increase in value in the next 5 years?
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@WQuarterFreddie challenged me to open a thread, but it’s really based on his questions. Nonetheless, let’s have at it. What do you see happening in the future?
So let me paraphrase from the original post and replies!
“_I found this clickbait article that has some info that was new to me.
What do you all think? Clickbait aside, what coins will increase in value over the next 10 years, according to your crystal ball, and why do you think so? (I’m OK if you post as many or few that you think of!_)
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I can, not, answer your question
common date, common grade classic gold because i think gold will rise
2024 nickels in BU
(% wise, not by absolute value) 🙂
I’d give up my day job if I knew.
I thought of one... but am buying my own BS so much that I am afraid to share.
Racking my brain to find something non CAC and little GS coverage
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Maybe try looking at some world coins vs US coins.
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What stocks will be a good investment in five years? What’s the next winning lottery ticket number?
No one knows. This isn’t a hobby meant for longterm investment.
There's a difference between "increase in value" and "soar".
If I were looking for the biggest % gains, I think I'd look outside the US market.
You would think most US coins are already high in value if rare or key dates.
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Yes. I think the US market is more mature than some of the developing markets. You need a critical mass of disposable income to support any discretionary market. Look at what happened to the China coin market with the rise of the middle class and the more wealthy classes.
I could see a similar thing happening in places like India and Brazil. Large countries with very long coin histories that just require a concentration of wealth to fuel a surge.
In absolute Dollars, the US trophy coins might increase more. But $1 million to $1.2 million is only 20%. There are numerous $100 coins of India that could become $500+.
1904 Liberty $20 in MS62
Tough question. Even if you think it is India, there are many different components and some will likely do significantly better than others. You still need to select the best coins in the right sectors The India coin market is rather complicated.
Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.
The market is a harsh mistress. It seems to have already forced all available coins to their optimum value. An exception noted elsewhere was for artificial rarities created by the mint. All known coins seem to be matched to a market value - what about coins entering a market at a nominal value and then establishing a different market value?
I would add Mexico to that mix of countries.
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Bitcoins
It just needs a registry set. 😉
High-grade and rare Mexican coins.
Reasons: Momentum. Increased wealth due in part to nearshoring of manufacturing. Low corporate salaries which cause people to start (numismatic) businesses (hence they need inventory). High interest and pride in their own history. Lack of confidence in the Mexican Peso. Low survival rates of these coins. Beautiful and historic coinage. Worldwide interest.
scarce dates never seem to lose any momentum... i remember buying lower grade 1843-O dimes for $40-$50
Any slabbed mint state US gold coin purchased close to melt value should do well in the future due to the continuing inflation of the dollar.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
Definitely Newfoundland half dollars. So, start collecting these rare buggers before your neighbors do and they all disappear. You don't want to miss the boat on this opportunity.
"Buy them by the sack."
Seriously, the 1839 No drapery half dollar has been one very hot coin the past 18 years, and I don't see that stopping anytime soon because it's necessary for type sets. I just checked and it went up again. Other scarce type coins may be a good investment.
*In jest to generate interest in this series of largely ignored, scarce coins that I happen to collect.
Not coins, but wouldn’t be surprised to see Continental currency increase in value around the time of our 250th… I think it’s an area of collecting that’s way too under appreciated, anyway…
I suspect India already has some registry sets. But to your point… look at Bulgaria and the numismatic interest that is captured through registry sets. There is an obvious connection between the upward spikes in valuations and the increased number of registry sets.
But there really are more significant factors such as the rising middle class in various counties and determining what the surviving population is for various coins extending to the condition rarity of those coins. I suspect at the World level, there will be some surprises. Bulgaria illustrates my point.
Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.
I definitely agree.
Registry sets or even just albums focus collecting and increase demand for "keys". You might even go so far as to say they create keys. A variety that has little interest will suddenly have significant demand.
Most of the world is more complicated than US coinage because the US didn't exist before the modern era. For countries who extend back to hammered coinage and hand struck coins, the number of varieties is astronomical. This creates lack of interest. But create a registry set or album and BOOM!
If you want an example from one of my passions: Tibetan tangka coins. These were hand struck. I have hundreds of them. The varieties aren't even catalogued except loosely by broad type. Cresswell suggested that one way to start cataloging them was to count the number of dots around the rim on the obverse/reverse. I grabbed about 25 of my hoard from the same broad type and started counting. I couldn't find two that had the same number of dots. Lol. As a result, there's little interest in the varieties. But if they are ever catalogued...
You would find similar things throughout medieval Europe. This lack of cataloging suppresses demand for what are often fairly scarce coins relative to the modern period.
Gold and Silver
Agreed, I just tried to pick the most generic and boring example I could think of. If you prefer a 1908 NM $20 I wouldn't complain.
I recently did a Colonial box-of-20 and couldn't believe how cheap it was for the high cool factor. Someday people are going to realize what a rich world that is and want to do type sets and such, and everyone will want them.
There are nearly now 100 million people living in the US with Latin American heritage. And rising. Just takes a few to change collecting habits since most Latin American coins are scarce to extremely rare. Will see with time.
As for India well they have the world largest population. In my opinion it is just a matter of time like China.
Thing is you need to learn about these coins (can take months, years a life time) and there is not a lot of material like US coins out there. If this changes then maybe more and more people will get on board. Mexico has enough books as for India I have no idea. But those books on Mexican coins are scarce to rare not always easy to locate (very few made sometimes only 200 copies printed).
Countries with lots off books on their coinage: US, Canada, Great Britain and so on. Makes it much easier to learn and appreciate these coins.
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I believe a more accurate phrase is I encouraged you not challenged you.😉
I have enough haters on here.😂🤣
Gold and Silver coins, as close to melt as possible. But NOT the overprice bullion currently produced by the U.S. Mint.
What about ancient coins? Greece, Rome and so on. Lots of books on those.
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Mine , I hope.
The ones I didn't buy.
The 1933 $20s have been doing decent as of late.
Coin Photographer.
$20s?
Well collectors can only own one but the government has a couple.
Coin Photographer.
Let me see, where is that hug emoji? Word choices in social media are so difficult to fine-tune. So many folks seem to read more into some statements that was ever put into them. Fortunately, it this case, we only have to decide exactly how light-hearted we were trying to be. I will be right behind you when you face down the haters. Maybe out the door and into the street, but definitely behind you somewhere.
Sounds good to me!😎
I will be posting another thread on 12/30.
Be ready!😂🤣
I hope you and your family have a safe and happy holiday!
^. There may be detractors and debaters, but I don’t believe coin geeks have the capacity to hate….. do we ?
P/E ratio has been at all time high since 2016...
Economy and fear will play on PM's....
Tariffs...
Alot of short term pressures, and sure PM's boom/bust and return to these levels. Expecting a better economy after recession at some point in 5 years.
Setting aside cherrypicks, crack outs, CAC beans, and purchased as graded...
I have been putting alot of thought into this question and have a short list of three coins...
They might take months or a year to find the coins and the funds.
I am actually buying my own hype, and will reveal them over time.
Separate from those... error coins and select VAM'S should hold or increase in value.
Errors seem hot with not alot of collectors.
Morgan's are moribund with a broad collector base of differing stripes.
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