Gastineau's confrontation with Favre
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probably most of you have seen the little confrontation that has been leaked from the newest 30 for 30 documentary. It shows Mark confronting Brett about taking a fall to Strahan that "broke" Gastineau's single season sack record.
It has apparently really bothered Gastineau over the years. It was awkward at best.
How do you guys feel about Strayhans "record?" I know that TJ Watt has since tied it, but should Strayhans season have an asterisk or similar attached?
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Watching the play unfold even though Favre gave up he was still under threat to get sacked from what I saw, Strahan didn't do anything wrong so it's on Favre.
I think it should go in the books as it did, no asterisk.
you are probably right. I was reading some of the FB comments and I don't remember this from the time, but apparently before the huddle, Favre and Strahan were seen talking. presumably about Favre and the OL getting him the record. If that were the case, I would be much more skeptical of it all.
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That was a bizarre confrontation.
I never knew that this happened
I really could not care less about the sack record.
Gastineau appears to have some kind of mental problem here, not sure if it's CTE, dementia, alcohol induced or what.
I remember when Favre "fell down" and Strahan was credited with the sack. With Michael bearing down on me at the end of the season, I would probably fall down too.
Big deal. Meaningless moment in pro sports.
Gastineau has been diagnosed with some cognitive issues. If memory serves, Parkinsons and Dementia.
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I guess Gastineau had a bad reputation for only wanting sacks, didn’t care about tackling anyone else.
Favre did explain that game had already been decided, play didn’t matter so no sense getting killed by Strahan.
I saw a trailer for that new 30-30 doc and other guys he played with had the same sentiment when it came to Gastineau.
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Looking at this photo (and other similar photos of athletes on an amateur or professional sports team) conveys a message of how serious and important they believe that they are; and how significant (to society and the world) the sport that they participate in is.
When I read threads such as this, it also conveys to me how much these athletes think and believe that they, their sport and what they do in their sport are so important and significant (i.e. the sack record in the NFL).
As Joe Banzai pointed out,................. Meaningless moment in pro sports.
Past athletic glory and future athletic glory are not important in the affairs of humans. Today's athletic glory is immediate and thus draws the attention of some of the public to tune in and watch. Such attention is fleeting at best.
Many persons have at various points in their lives participated in sports at some level; and have experienced athletic success/glory; have experienced athletic failure; and remember same to some degree or another. I remember experiencing these highs and lows while playing high school and college hoops in the 1970s.
Does anyone (except me) care about my past athletic experiences. The answer is NO!!!!. Does anyone really care about top level athletic experiences (i.e. the NFL sack record). Very, very few, if any.
The same thing can be said about other areas of human endeavor, including music, film, TV, singing, dancing, etc.
Not taking anything away from you but for most of us, myself included being on the professional sports stage it has to be different
The hard work and basically it being such a big part of their life like their identity probably makes accomplishments mean that much more to them.
Sometimes to a stupid level like when some of these guys claiming that they are going to "WAR" on the field, which is ridiculous because the toughest guy in the NFL never did anything tougher than any soldier that fired a rifle at someone shooting at them in a combat zone.
I can totally understand the sack record meaning a LOT to Gastineau
Gastineau was quite a character during his day but was the epitome of a selfish player who ignored playing the run to rush the QB every play and would often make boneheaded decisions at the worst time (like his personal foul vs the Browns in the AFC Divisional playoff game in '86). His teammates on the DL universally despised him. What Favre did may have been lame but that exchange between him and Gastineau was cringeworthy.
Also, Gastineau should know all bout taking dives from his so-called boxing career and his relationship with promoter Elvis Parker. What they did to Tim Anderson was absolutely sickening and I have no sympathy for Gastineau at all. Parker got what he had coming to him but it's sad that it sent an otherwise good guy like Anderson, who refused to take a dive for Mark, to prison for life.
ETA: Watt broke Gastineau's record anyway, so it really doesn't even matter anymore anyway.
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It's not just the falling down. Favre crossed up his offensive line on the play. They're run blocking - all of them. But Favre acted like it was a pass play, thus the fake sack.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Favre for 99.9% of his career was a ultimate competitor. For 17 straight years he never missed a game. So he made a bad play. Boo hoo.
People here in Minnesota still cry about the interception he threw against the Saints in the NFC championship game. The guy was cheap shotted the entire game and had the cr#p kicked out of him and he still almost led us to a victory. He was THE MAN!
I wish he would have played his entire career here in Minnesota, the guy was GREAT!
I also enjoyed watching Favre. The ultimate gunslinger. I think He and Elway had about the strongest arms I ever saw. You could probably add Jeff George in there, but the first two were HOF QB's. George just had a strong arm.
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I saw a replay of a sports show where a bunch of top QB's had a contest to see who could throw the farthest and Favre won.
Funny you mention Jeff George. He had one of his best years playing for the Vikings. He was a fantastic thrower, but if any defensive player came within 3 yards of him he fell down AND fumbled the ball.
He did made some unbelievable throws when given the time.
I was going to say Gary Carter played for the Jets.
no, that's not Gary, it is his brother Jerry Carter
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Perkdog.
I agree with the points you made.
For each person, particularly those who are hard wired to be driven to accomplish and succeed in whatever area of human endeavor they choose, events take place during their lives that are highlights (i.e. sacking a QB in an NFL career that makes one the all time sack leader). To that person (and maybe, at best, to a few other persons including one's spouse, child or fellow athlete) the highlight or highlights have special meaning and will always be remembered and treasured.
However, a given person's highlight is of little importance to most of the people who were alive when the highlight happened and those persons yet unborn.
I treasure certain basketball games I played in and certain individual plays I participated in. They were and are highlights of my participation in athletics. If we tipped a brew or two at a local bar and I told you about one or more of my hoops highlights you would listen, possibly give me props and not give much additional thought to it.
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