Thoughts on sending coins to be identified before sending them to PCGS for grading.
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Two of my coins returned from PCGS this year as "Genuine" so I'm considering sending some for attribution before sending them to be graded. The coins returned were mint errors, so I didn't appreciate paying the error and variety fees for them to receive a "genuine" identity. Does anyone else have coins attributed before sending them for grading? If so, who or where is a good, reputable and safe place to send them?
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Can you show us photos of the two error coins, and the tag or label that you got back from PCGS
calling them “genuine’?
I'm not sure I understand, what do you gain by sending them somewhere for attribution (whatever that means to you) and then sending back to PCGS? Does PCGS even attribute the coins you think you have?
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PCGS will cross coin in other holders, Anacs has a good team then you could see how PCGS will attribute/grade them, you could ask them to only cross straight graded coins.
It is best done done in one submission.
The shipping cost is a killer.
There are handling fees per coin submission.
Know the variety and the PUP'S or post it here. If you are crossing from ANAC's or NGC then all the better.
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Coins do not need to be attributed elsewhere prior to sending to pcgs. They just won't notate the variety on the slab in majority of the cases.
Mint Errors most times need to be paid for extra service and notated.
Although I do own a few smaller Error coins not notated such as a cracked planchet, a rim clip, and agrease filled die.
Definitely post pics like Fred Weinberg suggested as he is the expert.
I do my best to know what I have before sending it in. I tend to do the grading & attribution together.
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I have sent varieties to be attributed before to Wiles. I no longer send in varieties that are difficult to attribute.
varietyvista.com/Attribution%20Services.htm
This is one of them and is the one I was most upset about. I purchased this in either 1999 or 2000 but never got around to sending it in. No explanation, although I asked repeatedly. Ended up selling it on Great Collections for the cheap. The other is a 2004-D Lincoln Broadstrike they said had been cleaned.
What do you mean by variety attribution? What varieties are you trying to attribute? Not sure I understand the issue.
Maybe the word attribution is misleading. Maybe I should have just said a way to identify a coin as one that should receive a grade and has not been cleaned, etc. before sending it to PCGS.
Ah, that’s not how grading works - “Cleaned” is the grade. If a coin has a major surface issue then it doesn’t receive a numerical grade.
https://www.pcgs.com/news/why-didnt-my-coin-get-a-grade#:~:text=This means that the grading,PCGS only encapsulates genuine coins.
Once upon a time, you could only submit through a dealer who was supposed to help you screen coins for problems that would preclude a grade. You could seek out someone you trust or that comes recommended in this regard. Some shows have graders at them that could give you an opinion before submitting.
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If you want someone to 'screen' before submitting, can you find a nearby PCGS dealer willing to look at them?
If a coin expert isn't locally available, start a thread showing quality high resolution pics taken from various angles under good lighting and ask for opinions. We have some pretty knowledgeable coin experts here who can offer you some expert advice.
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The struck fragment had been identified as such on the label. I believe in this case, it is labeled as genuine, as a grade cannot be determined. This is similar to what is done on blank planchets.
The 2004 is listed as broadstruck out of collar. Unc details, cleaned.
Seems to me that PCGS did what they were paid to do.
I would be interested in knowing what the fragment sold for if you don’t mind. That was a cool error. I would not be surprised if the 2004 sold cheap. It’s a relatively minor broadstrike, and cleaned.