2023 Quarter - Eleanor - P mint mark - Error? 2 'D' marks below 'Human Rights'

bernardhempfling

New to collecting. Anyone know what this is? Thanks.

MarkKelley

Sorry, it's post-minting damage. Your coin took a hit from the reeded edge of another coin.

Greenstang

Welcome to the forum.

_Agree, they are called bag marks caused by the coins making contact during shipping.
Just a damaged quarter.

bernardhempfling

Thanks for the input. I think there would more damage elsewhere to indicate that. I was thinking press damage since it is quite symmetric and straight down the center of the obverse.

Typekat

I’m not disagreeing with the PMD verdicts, but it is uncanny the way the stray mark resembles the mintmark.

lcutler

@bernardhempfling said:
Thanks for the input. I think there would more damage elsewhere to indicate that. I was thinking press damage since it is quite symmetric and straight down the center of the obverse.

No reason for there to be damage elsewhere, when the curved edge of a coin hits and causes damage only 2 or 3 reeds hit at a time. Can you explain what press damage is? Never heard that one.

1TwoBits

Find a second example like that, then it’s probably not PMD. It doesn’t look like it to me, but I’m not a professional PMD identifier.

1TwoBits

jonathanb

@Typekat said:
I’m not disagreeing with the PMD verdicts, but it is uncanny the way the stray mark resembles the mintmark.

Are you referring to the way that its shape is different from any mintmark? Or the way that its size is different from any mintmark?

Or are you using the word "uncanny" in a way that means "not at all"?

privatecoin

Very interesting.

bernardhempfling

@lcutler said:

@bernardhempfling said:
Thanks for the input. I think there would more damage elsewhere to indicate that. I was thinking press damage since it is quite symmetric and straight down the center of the obverse.

No reason for there to be damage elsewhere, when the curved edge of a coin hits and causes damage only 2 or 3 reeds hit at a time. Can you explain what press damage is? Never heard that one.

As I am new to collecting I am not sure of the process of making a coin. The placement of the marks is very curious and when I use the grid overlay option on the digital microscope the marks do fall into the grid as though they are on purpose. I will just keep it for future comparison. Thanks everyone.

Aegis3

I suspect the reed/bagmarks is the likeliest explanation, but can we see an expansion of the designer's initials below the scales? I just at least want to consider the dropped letter hypothesis.

JBK

To me they look incuse (indented into the coin) with displaced metal (raised ridge at the edge).

If that's what it looks like in hand, then it's damage for sure.

GiveMeProof

See these a lot on circ. coins. sometimes 3 teeth marks.

messydesk

@bernardhempfling said:

@lcutler said:

@bernardhempfling said:
Thanks for the input. I think there would more damage elsewhere to indicate that. I was thinking press damage since it is quite symmetric and straight down the center of the obverse.

No reason for there to be damage elsewhere, when the curved edge of a coin hits and causes damage only 2 or 3 reeds hit at a time. Can you explain what press damage is? Never heard that one.

As I am new to collecting I am not sure of the process of making a coin.

It would behoove you to rectify this.

bernardhempfling

After going through and researching and looking at thousands of coins I believe it is bagmarks/PMD as well. Thanks all.