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New 2025 ASE Offerings with Special Marks

sfs2002usasfs2002usa Posts: 861 ✭✭✭
edited December 5, 2024 8:56AM in U.S. Coin Forum

Here are some interesting new products :smile:

American Eagle 2025 One Ounce Silver Proof Coin - Army
American Eagle Coins
West Point (W)
https://www.usmint.gov/american-eagle-2025-one-ounce-silver-proof-coin---army-25APM.html

American Eagle 2025 One Ounce Silver Proof Coin - Marine Corps
American Eagle Coins
West Point (W)
https://www.usmint.gov/american-eagle-2025-one-ounce-silver-proof-coin---marine-corps-25MPM.html

American Eagle 2025 One Ounce Silver Proof Coin - Navy
American Eagle Coins
San Francisco (S)
https://www.usmint.gov/american-eagle-2025-one-ounce-silver-proof-coin---navy-25NPM.html

BUT WHERE PRAY IS THE COIN FOR THE AIR FORCE ? AND THE SPACE FORCE ? AND THE COAST GUARD ? . . .

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  • WQuarterFreddieWQuarterFreddie Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You forgot the National Guard 😉

  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,686 ✭✭✭✭✭

    We're turning into Canada, numismatically. :/

    (No offense to Canadians).

  • sfs2002usasfs2002usa Posts: 861 ✭✭✭

    They are saving the . . . (National Guard, . . .) for 2026 !

  • BStrauss3BStrauss3 Posts: 3,459 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Actually, there are EIGHT uniformed services.

    The Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, Space Force, and Coast Guard are the six most people remember.

    The other two?

    -----Burton
    ANA 50 year/Life Member (now "Emeritus")
  • BStrauss3BStrauss3 Posts: 3,459 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @WQuarterFreddie said:
    You forgot the National Guard 😉

    The National Guard isn't a separate uniformed service - https://www.nationalguard.mil/

    The US Army National Guard which has a post near our fav bbq joint. Established in 1636, the Army National Guard is the oldest component of the U.S. Armed Forces and serves as the primary combat reserve of the U.S. Army - https://www.nationalguard.mil/About-the-Guard/Army-National-Guard/

    And the Air National Guard - Air Force - https://www.ang.af.mil/

    -----Burton
    ANA 50 year/Life Member (now "Emeritus")
  • @JBK said:
    We're turning into Canada, numismatically. :/

    (No offense to Canadians).

    :o

  • BStrauss3BStrauss3 Posts: 3,459 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SilverPlatinum said:

    @JBK said:
    We're turning into Canada, numismatically. :/

    (No offense to Canadians).

    :o

    More like Liberia or Niue...

    -----Burton
    ANA 50 year/Life Member (now "Emeritus")
  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,686 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 5, 2024 10:23AM

    @BStrauss3 said:

    @SilverPlatinum said:

    @JBK said:
    We're turning into Canada, numismatically. :/

    (No offense to Canadians).

    :o

    More like Liberia or Niue...

    Yes, I'm sure those are much better examples. :)

    Although, I'm pretty sure they don't mint their own novelties, but I guess that's not really the point.

    So, Canada is off the hook. For now.... >:)

  • NJCoinNJCoin Posts: 2,462 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JBK said:

    @BStrauss3 said:

    @SilverPlatinum said:

    @JBK said:
    We're turning into Canada, numismatically. :/

    (No offense to Canadians).

    :o

    More like Liberia or Niue...

    Yes, I'm sure those are much better examples. :)

    Although, I'm pretty sure they don't mint their own novelties, but I guess that's not really the point.

    So, Canada is off the hook. For now.... >:)

    Correct. They just take a fee for monetizing the trinkets. The actual minting is done by outfits like the Perth or New Zealand mints.

    So, no, to the extent the US Mint is paying royalties, like with DC comics, or accepting royalties, as with the video game thingy, to make commercial products, it IS exactly like the Royal Canadian Mint.

  • @JBK said:>
    Hey. If Canada becomes the 51st stare atleast we get a modern minting facility as part of the deal. :D

    To be honest with you, I do not mind being the 51st state, we have limited time on this earth, and if this financially benefit both sides, then why not. In Heaven we would not be called Canadians or Americans anymore.

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,426 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 5, 2024 1:14PM

    @JBK said:
    We're turning into Canada, numismatically. :/

    (No offense to Canadians).

    That's troublesome to me, just saying
    I love Canada 🇨🇦 as well 👍

  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,686 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 5, 2024 1:21PM

    @SilverPlatinum said:

    @JBK said:>
    Hey. If Canada becomes the 51st stare atleast we get a modern minting facility as part of the deal. :D

    To be honest with you, I do not mind being the 51st state, we have limited time on this earth, and if this financially benefit both sides, then why not. In Heaven we would not be called Canadians or Americans anymore.

    That's right - we'd all be called North Americans. :D

    Of course, the 51st state suggestion was just an amusing trolling of the Prime Minister, but wouldn't it be 13 new states? 🤔

  • Glen2022Glen2022 Posts: 939 ✭✭✭✭

    Two questions, 1. where are Pics? 2. Why?

  • CregCreg Posts: 528 ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 5, 2024 2:17PM

    We could still call them provinces—there’s a couple of commonwealths already—the thirty-one states of Mexico the seven nations of the Greater Antilles and throw in D.C. and the four remaining territories to add 46 states to the union. Eight rows of twelve stars.

  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,686 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Creg said:

    We could still call them provinces—there’s a couple of commonwealths already—the thirty-one states of Mexico the seven nations of the Greater Antilles and throw in D.C. and the four remaining territories to add 46 states to the union. Eight rows of twelve stars.

    What about Cuba? Cuba could use a little federal funding right about now. :)

  • Cranium_Basher73Cranium_Basher73 Posts: 3,232 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JBK said:

    @SilverPlatinum said:

    @JBK said:
    So, Canada is off the hook. For now.... >:)

    :)

    Hey. If Canada becomes the 51st stare atleast we get a modern minting facility as part of the deal. :D

    Throw a coin enough times, and suppose one day it lands on its edge.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 34,596 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 5, 2024 7:50PM

    @sfs2002usa said:
    Here are some interesting new products :smile:

    American Eagle 2025 One Ounce Silver Proof Coin - Army
    American Eagle Coins
    West Point (W)
    https://www.usmint.gov/american-eagle-2025-one-ounce-silver-proof-coin---army-25APM.html

    American Eagle 2025 One Ounce Silver Proof Coin - Marine Corps
    American Eagle Coins
    West Point (W)
    https://www.usmint.gov/american-eagle-2025-one-ounce-silver-proof-coin---marine-corps-25MPM.html

    American Eagle 2025 One Ounce Silver Proof Coin - Navy
    American Eagle Coins
    San Francisco (S)
    https://www.usmint.gov/american-eagle-2025-one-ounce-silver-proof-coin---navy-25NPM.html

    BUT WHERE PRAY IS THE COIN FOR THE AIR FORCE ? AND THE SPACE FORCE ? AND THE COAST GUARD ? . . .

    They don't go back to 1775. It's the 250th anniversary of those 3 branches.

  • MartinMartin Posts: 986 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just make Canada a territory.
    Problem (whatever is the problem) solved

    Martin

  • SIowhandSIowhand Posts: 345 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SilverPlatinum said:

    @JBK said:
    So, Canada is off the hook. For now.... >:)

    :)

    I’m not sure what that is supposed to signify. But I’d bet dollars to donuts that’s not Canada. I think we are looking at the Matterhorn. Last I checked, the Matterhorn was still in Switzerland.

  • BStrauss3BStrauss3 Posts: 3,459 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Geometry is not his strong point.

    -----Burton
    ANA 50 year/Life Member (now "Emeritus")
  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 9,015 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BStrauss3 said:
    Actually, there are EIGHT uniformed services.

    The Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, Space Force, and Coast Guard are the six most people remember.

    The other two?

    Hey, what about the Salvation Army?

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  • CregCreg Posts: 528 ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 6, 2024 6:22AM

    @JBK said:

    @Creg said:

    We could still call them provinces—there’s a couple of commonwealths already—the thirty-one states of Mexico the seven nations of the Greater Antilles and throw in D.C. and the four remaining territories to add 46 states to the union. Eight rows of twelve stars.

    What about Cuba? Cuba could use a little federal funding right about now. :)

    Cuba, P.R. Jamaica, … Greater Antilles—

    Edit—mustn’t forget the last French territory in N.A. — St.Pierre et Miquelon.

  • BStrauss3BStrauss3 Posts: 3,459 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Namvet69 said:
    Hey, what about the Salvation Army?

    Private cult. If they want a medal they'll have to pay the mint to make it.

    -----Burton
    ANA 50 year/Life Member (now "Emeritus")
  • Schmitz7Schmitz7 Posts: 753 ✭✭✭

    We should also do colorized versions of each and of course from each mint too. For example:

    Each of the below available with S, D, P, W mintmarks and second privy for New Orleans, Carson City
    2025 "name the military branch" colorized
    non-colorized
    reverse proof
    frosted uncirculated
    Niobium plated in purple, green, blue, yellow, red
    Regular Proof
    Uncirculated Proof-Like

    I think that would make 66 varieties for each of the military branches. That will keep the Silver Eagle collectors busy for awhile. :)

  • Coin FinderCoin Finder Posts: 7,190 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The stuff coming out of the US Mint was inevitable, but the US Mint selling directly to an auction house was a bridge to far for me...

    If the US Mint is going to get gimmicky, let the people have a chance at their products first. Ill pass on most of it personally..

  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,686 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Next up could be pre-sabbed coins sold by the mint. That would certainly cut down on returns.

  • ndeaglesndeagles Posts: 389 ✭✭✭✭

    @Schmitz7 said:

    I think that would make 66 varieties for each of the military branches. That will keep the Silver Eagle collectors busy for awhile. :)

    Or make them quit collecting them, at least for a complete set. This was the reason I and probably others stopped collecting the modern Morgan/peace dollars. If this is where the mint is headed I will be done.

  • OnastoneOnastone Posts: 3,981 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Glen2022 said:
    Two questions, 1. where are Pics?

    No pictures and no description beyond coming summer of 2025

  • NJCoinNJCoin Posts: 2,462 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 6, 2024 4:03PM

    @Coin Finder said:
    The stuff coming out of the US Mint was inevitable, but the US Mint selling directly to an auction house was a bridge to far for me...

    If the US Mint is going to get gimmicky, let the people have a chance at their products first. Ill pass on most of it personally..

    You have it wrong. They didn't "sell directly to an auction house." They are selling directly to the public. The auction house is simply running the auction on their behalf. Same as just about every lot in just about every auction.

    The only bridge they crossed here is the one where they capture market premium for themself. At the auction, everyone has the exact same chance at their products first, rather than having them first pass through the hands of favored Big Boys, or people with bots.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 34,596 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 6, 2024 4:56PM

    @NJCoin said:

    @Coin Finder said:
    The stuff coming out of the US Mint was inevitable, but the US Mint selling directly to an auction house was a bridge to far for me...

    If the US Mint is going to get gimmicky, let the people have a chance at their products first. Ill pass on most of it personally..

    You have it wrong. They didn't "sell directly to an auction house." They are selling directly to the public. The auction house is simply running the auction on their behalf. Same as just about every lot in just about every auction.

    The only bridge they crossed here is the one where they capture market premium for themself. At the auction, everyone has the exact same chance at their products first, rather than having them first pass through the hands of favored Big Boys, or people with bots.

    Agree. I've suggested in the past that all limited mintage releases should be auctioned. But "true collectors" (hate that term) feel they are the ones that should have special access and pricing so they have the chance to "win". Anyone who objects to such a public auction as a means of distribution wants to personally benefit unfairly from the distribution.

  • Coin FinderCoin Finder Posts: 7,190 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I should have written "sell through" My bad, so sorry. You will be ok....

    Buying from the mint everyone has a chance of buying their products at a set price and set time and date. So maybe the problem is the "bots" that set up buying parties etc... I don't know, sounds like fake news to me.. I have not seen evidence of that. Anyone care to show us how they do it?

    The auction house was not picked out from a hat. They bid on the right to auction these coins. Did heritage have a shot at them? Maybe, but I really don't know or care.

    And of course people want to personally benefit from their purchases, what a ridiculous thing to say.. Some flip some keep all benefit in some way or why else would they buy.

  • @knovak1976 said:
    I was hoping we could go without seeing that two bit felon’s crap posted here. Sad how many honor a sexual predator. I come here for numismatic info…not criminal worship.

    A sniveller in every crowd. Just can't ignore anything.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 34,596 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 6, 2024 8:03PM

    @Coin Finder said:
    I should have written "sell through" My bad, so sorry. You will be ok....

    Buying from the mint everyone has a chance of buying their products at a set price and set time and date. So maybe the problem is the "bots" that set up buying parties etc... I don't know, sounds like fake news to me.. I have not seen evidence of that. Anyone care to show us how they do it?

    The auction house was not picked out from a hat. They bid on the right to auction these coins. Did heritage have a shot at them? Maybe, but I really don't know or care.

    And of course people want to personally benefit from their purchases, what a ridiculous thing to say.. Some flip some keep all benefit in some way or why else would they buy.

    And they can buy... at market price rather than below market price. Every person has equal opportunity to buy. It is the most fair distribution in the history of the Mint.

  • Coin FinderCoin Finder Posts: 7,190 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Everyone wants to buy at below market price even you with your eBay stuff, how else do you make money or are you into for fun? Good God man!!

  • .... Posts: 413 ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 7, 2024 5:28AM

    😏

  • @knovak1976 said:

    @justcollecting said:

    @knovak1976 said:
    I was hoping we could go without seeing that two bit felon’s crap posted here. Sad how many honor a sexual predator. I come here for numismatic info…not criminal worship.

    A sniveller in every crowd. Just can't ignore anything.

    No, just sick of seeing a felon’s orange lying face EVERYWHERE. He deserves to be in prison, not on a coin forum. Hard to ignore something thrown in your face day in and day out. I THOUGHT posts were supposed to be non-political…..yet here we are. I just put you on ignore, how’s that? 😂

    Just another Karen. Dude its a small fly speck on the windshield of life. NO Here you are... Drawing attention to yourself

  • olympicsosolympicsos Posts: 786 ✭✭✭✭

    I have no problems with marks, but I do not think they should be on numismatic products to make endless gimmicks. I would have privy marks on circulating coins so that anyone can find them.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 34,596 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 7, 2024 7:34AM

    @Coin Finder said:
    Everyone wants to buy at below market price even you with your eBay stuff, how else do you make money or are you into for fun? Good God man!!

    Now you're just creating straw men. There is obviously a difference between wholesale and retail markets. You have essentially ceded my point in trying to create a counterpoint. Your original complaint was that "the people" should have a chance not that "the people" should buy wholesale. This is the fairest possible retail distribution.

    I'm fine with your suggestion. They should stop selling retail coins and simply distribute wholesale in monster boxes. It would be much more efficient for them without needing to bother with individual packaging. Collectors who want only one can then buy them at market price from one of the big distributors or buy 500 and sell the extra 499. Excellent suggestion, my man, you've helped make government more efficient. We should contact DOGE with this suggestion.

    The fact is that you are complaining that they are doing retail distribution (which you want) at retail prices (which you don't want). All non- collecting taxpayers have no interest in creating a government subsidized profit center for collectors.

    Many collectors also don't want unlimited mintages to protect the price of the coins. That leaves those collectors making the selfish argument that the Mint make limited edition collectibles that they can buy at below market prices. In other words, they want both preferential access and preferential pricing. That's fine. Greed is human. But you can't pretend that is more fair than what the Mint is doing. The Mint created a very low mintage, desirable coin and gave EVERY collector EQUAL access to it.

  • Canada has the 8th largest nickel reserve.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 34,596 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @justcollecting said:
    Canada has the 8th largest nickel reserve.

    They also have the world's largest nickel.

  • fathomfathom Posts: 1,726 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @Coin Finder said:
    I should have written "sell through" My bad, so sorry. You will be ok....

    Buying from the mint everyone has a chance of buying their products at a set price and set time and date. So maybe the problem is the "bots" that set up buying parties etc... I don't know, sounds like fake news to me.. I have not seen evidence of that. Anyone care to show us how they do it?

    The auction house was not picked out from a hat. They bid on the right to auction these coins. Did heritage have a shot at them? Maybe, but I really don't know or care.

    And of course people want to personally benefit from their purchases, what a ridiculous thing to say.. Some flip some keep all benefit in some way or why else would they buy.

    And they can buy... at market price rather than below market price. Every person has equal opportunity to buy. It is the most fair distribution in the history of the Mint.

    Not an absolute. There are instances in auction settings where buying fever pushes pricing skyward. Especially among higher volume sellers.

    Also high publicity for limited edition items can create false demand. We will see what happens on the 230 privy gold. Revisiting in a couple years time will be revealing.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 34,596 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 7, 2024 7:13AM

    @fathom said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @Coin Finder said:
    I should have written "sell through" My bad, so sorry. You will be ok....

    Buying from the mint everyone has a chance of buying their products at a set price and set time and date. So maybe the problem is the "bots" that set up buying parties etc... I don't know, sounds like fake news to me.. I have not seen evidence of that. Anyone care to show us how they do it?

    The auction house was not picked out from a hat. They bid on the right to auction these coins. Did heritage have a shot at them? Maybe, but I really don't know or care.

    And of course people want to personally benefit from their purchases, what a ridiculous thing to say.. Some flip some keep all benefit in some way or why else would they buy.

    And they can buy... at market price rather than below market price. Every person has equal opportunity to buy. It is the most fair distribution in the history of the Mint.

    Not an absolute. There are instances in auction settings where buying fever pushes pricing skyward. Especially among higher volume sellers.

    Also high publicity for limited edition items can create false demand. We will see what happens on the 230 privy gold. Revisiting in a couple years time will be revealing.

    While that's true, I would argue that "market price" shouldn't be judged by future value. Auctions establish price in that snapshot of time. But, to be fair, every sale in every format is also a snapshot in time subject to similar deviations: did you just get along tax refund, is the lighting on the bourse making the coin look better, so you like/ loathe the seller, etc.

    The same kind of variations, by the way, perturbed prices during traditional Mint releases. FOMO. Impatience. Gambling on demand. Perception of rarity. Etc. There's a reason why the price of Mint products don't hold up over time.

  • Coin FinderCoin Finder Posts: 7,190 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf You must be a lot of fun at parties... I did "ced your point" You are changing the argument, pivoting and putting words like "straw men" in my mouth. I'm not my suggesting anything. They are doing "retail distribution" just not with this coin ..So far... And do not speak for all collectors, that's very arrogant.. You seem to know a lot about greed also... The Mint does what the Mint does and has been doing long before I was around. This US Mint action is entirely unfair and that's my gut feeling... I disagree with you entirely and that's that.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 34,596 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 7, 2024 7:35AM

    @Coin Finder said:
    @jmlanzaf You must be a lot of fun at parties... I did "ced your point" You are changing the argument, pivoting and putting words like "straw men" in my mouth. I'm not my suggesting anything. They are doing "retail distribution" just not with this coin ..So far... And do not speak for all collectors, that's very arrogant.. You seem to know a lot about greed also... The Mint does what the Mint does and has been doing long before I was around. This US Mint action is entirely unfair and that's my gut feeling... I disagree with you entirely and that's that.

    This is retail distribution. How is the auction not a retail environment?

    Should probably read "collectors " as "many collectors". Obviously, i don't think all collectors feel the same. Some do want unlimited mintages... or think they do, until they see the long term price consequences.

    I understand you don't like it. That is very different than "unfair". Can you drop the "unfair"? It's really hard to make a case that a public auction, advertised through a large house that allows bidding anytime in the two weeks prior to the sale is "unfair". You have the same opportunity to buy as me or John Albanese or Apmex. How is that "unfair"?

    Selling them between 12:00 and 12:10 is unfair. Some people work and can't line up. Your internet might be slower or flakier than mine. Etc.

    I will ignore the three subtle insults as I know you don't really mean them.

  • sfs2002usasfs2002usa Posts: 861 ✭✭✭

    Nice Images for the 2025 Marines Coins - Proof looks very cool !

  • WQuarterFreddieWQuarterFreddie Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭✭✭

    .

    @sfs2002usa said:
    They are saving the . . . (National Guard, . . .) for 2026 !

    Yes! The 390th anniversary!🧐

  • JWPJWP Posts: 22,829 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BStrauss3 said:
    Actually, there are EIGHT uniformed services.

    The Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, Space Force, and Coast Guard are the six most people remember.

    The other two?

    You neglected to mention the THOUGHT POLICE

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