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Is this really an 1875 Snow-16 "Dot Reverse"?

redraiderredraider Posts: 211 ✭✭✭✭✭

I saw this coin for sale with a well known copper dealer and I have my doubts that this is the 1875 S-16 variety. The date does not line up with known examples, it appears this example has a date further to the right. The coin is Photosealed, but I dont think Rick made this attribution as the stickers applied to the slab indicating the variety are not the type he uses. Thoughts?
Example in question...

Genuine example:

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  • redraiderredraider Posts: 211 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Also just noticed the die cracks by the shield on the reverse don't line up and this is one of the pick up points in Ricks attribution guide.

  • redraiderredraider Posts: 211 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @IkesT, great picture comparison. This coin is listed for almost $6K and I really hope no collector is going to be burned on this. I don't have a relationship with the dealer, but this individual is active on the forum and hopefully this will be seen.

  • CopperindianCopperindian Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 25, 2024 6:50PM

    @redraider: I’ll add my 2C - it’s definitely not the Dot. Ikes T’s pic confirms the “chip” doesn’t conform to the variety.

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  • redraiderredraider Posts: 211 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks everyone! This coin is Photosealed, which is concerning as it could be perceived as Rick approves of this variety, which it is not.

  • CopperindianCopperindian Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here’s a pic of a closeup of my Dot:

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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,613 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Please direct the dealer to this thread. Maybe he's unaware or can provide a credible explanation. But even if not, it's better that he knows others know about it.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,393 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not a variety I would collect but appreciate the education.

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  • CopperindianCopperindian Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Lakesammman: below is a somewhat hard to read letter from the National Archives that explains the story behind the “dot” reverse.

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  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,246 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The die crack difference is what gave it away for me...as mentioned early in the thread.

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