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Off center punch or after production wear?

I have read/seen many posts about this and the photos as well as the comments vary a lot. This is what I have and can use it for future determinations if I know exactly what it is




I'm looking at. I really appreciate y'all's time and input and I hope the pics are good enough.

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,228 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The misalignment is within standard mint tolerances and there is no added value.

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  • PizzamanPizzaman Posts: 301 ✭✭✭

    It's slightly misaligned, slightly out-of-collar. These are minted very rapidly, and this happens quite a lot.

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,228 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Also, it's not an "off center punch" rather the correct terminology is "off center strike".
    Welcome to the coin forum and feel free to ask more questions. We're always willing to help a new collector who has a serious desire to learn.

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  • GreenstangGreenstang Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Please show both sides of a coin when making inquires.
    That could be either a Misaligned Die or an Off Centre Strike, depending on the reverse.

  • jonathanbjonathanb Posts: 3,602 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Greenstang said:
    That could be either a Misaligned Die or an Off Centre Strike, depending on the reverse.

    The reverse is irrelevant in this case. It cannot be an off center strike.

    Each coin is struck with three dies at once. For off center strikes, the only die that matters is the collar. If a coin is struck in the collar, then it is fully centered by definition, although either of the obverse and reverse dies might be misaligned relative to the collar.

  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,836 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Capt. ~ i’d call that “barely misaligned“ and not “slightly- “lol’

    ……. A difference without much distinction……

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  • Thanks, folks, for the input. Corrected terminology and to always picture both sides of the coin. All great information and certainly appreciated.

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  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,220 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CaptHenway said:
    Looks like a slightly misaligned die, which causes the rim to be slightly thicker on one side of the image.
    @FredWeinberg said:
    Capt. ~ i’d call that “barely misaligned“ and not “slightly- “lol’

    ……. A difference without much distinction……

    Can you make that determination without seeing where the rim edge is on the reverse?

  • jonathanbjonathanb Posts: 3,602 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @davewesen said:
    Can you make that determination without seeing where the rim edge is on the reverse?

    Yes you can, because the alignment that matters is relative to the collar not relative to the opposite die.

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,227 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @davewesen said:

    @CaptHenway said:
    Looks like a slightly misaligned die, which causes the rim to be slightly thicker on one side of the image.
    @FredWeinberg said:
    Capt. ~ i’d call that “barely misaligned“ and not “slightly- “lol’

    ……. A difference without much distinction……

    Can you make that determination without seeing where the rim edge is on the reverse?

    What jonathanb said.

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