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How much is a common date St. Gaudens $20 in a PCGS MS62 doily holder worth?


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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭✭

    At today's price of gold, probably melt or a bit less unless you can find someone who would actually pay a premium for such a holder.

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  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,323 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My guess would be whatever a similar coin from the same issue would be valued at plus several hundred dollars.

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  • 1peter12231peter1223 Posts: 120 ✭✭✭
    edited November 17, 2024 12:11PM

    You can search Ebay or Great Collections on recent sales prices and figure the premium from that . I can tell you it has gone WAY UP . I sold a few $20 MS Doily Libs and Saints on Ebay and here ( BST) a few years ago . I sold them for a small $100-$200 premium for the holder .
    Here are the most recent Ebay sales ( assuming they are legit ) ...

  • 1peter12231peter1223 Posts: 120 ✭✭✭

    These are on Ebay right now ...

    You might want to make sure the plastic tab/ring around the holder is intact and not damaged, cracked( or missing ) . It is fairly delicate and easily damaged .

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,613 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @291fifth said:
    At today's price of gold, probably melt or a bit less unless you can find someone who would actually pay a premium for such a holder.

    People do pay premiums for those holders.

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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,613 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @1peter1223 said:
    You can search Ebay or Great Collections on recent sales prices and figure the premium from that . I can tell you it has gone WAY UP . I sold a few $20 MS Doily Libs and Saints on Ebay and here ( BST) a few years ago . I sold them for a small $100-$200 premium for the holder .
    Here are the most recent Ebay sales ( assuming they are legit ) ...

    I wouldn’t use green and gold CAC sticker examples, to try to show what sort of premium doily holders bring.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,268 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 17, 2024 2:58PM

    CDN bid for MS62

    As far as somebody pay a holder premium good luck.

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  • orevilleoreville Posts: 11,994 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 17, 2024 6:23PM

    @Cougar1978 said:
    CDN bid for MS62

    As far as somebody pay a holder premium good luck.

    These have been approximate sales prices that I have observed recently:

    Doily without a CAC sticker , 5% to 10% premium
    Doily with green CAC sticker, 10% to 15% premium
    Doily with gold CAC sticker , 25% premium.

    The gold CAC sticker is clearly more valued as a collectible than the doily label.

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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,613 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @oreville said:

    @Cougar1978 said:
    CDN bid for MS62

    As far as somebody pay a holder premium good luck.

    These have been approximate sales prices that I have observed recently:

    Doily without a CAC sticker , 5% to 10% premium
    Doily with green CAC sticker, 10% to 15% premium
    Doily with gold CAC sticker , 25% premium.

    The gold CAC sticker is clearly more valued as a collectible than the doily label.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,613 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @oreville said:

    @Cougar1978 said:
    CDN bid for MS62

    As far as somebody pay a holder premium good luck.

    These have been approximate sales prices that I have observed recently:

    Doily without a CAC sticker , 5% to 10% premium
    Doily with green CAC sticker, 10% to 15% premium
    Doily with gold CAC sticker , 25% premium.

    The gold CAC sticker is clearly more valued as a collectible than the doily label.

    The premiums you reported look unrealistically modest for lower value coins.
    For example, are you saying that a Morgan dollar with a value of $200 would sell for only a $10 to $20 premium in a non-CAC doily holder? Or were you speaking just about higher value coins?

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @291fifth said:
    At today's price of gold, probably melt or a bit less unless you can find someone who would actually pay a premium for such a holder.

    People do pay premiums for those holders.

    I know some collectors do pay premiums but wonder just how many such collectors there are. Do dealers pay premiums for them?

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  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,364 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 17, 2024 8:51PM

    @291fifth said:

    @MFeld said:

    @291fifth said:
    At today's price of gold, probably melt or a bit less unless you can find someone who would actually pay a premium for such a holder.

    People do pay premiums for those holders.

    I know some collectors do pay premiums but wonder just how many such collectors there are. Do dealers pay premiums for them?

    More than I think you believe there are, I very much enjoy collecting coins in old holders and have paid a stiff premium for a few in my holder collection. How much is very hard to pin down as that is going to vary by collector and the type of holder, for just myself I would pay $200-$300 extra for a gold coin in a doily holder if I like/want the coin in the holder and the holder is nice. I seldom pay a premium if I don't like or want the coin in the holder, the exception would be an NGC black holder.

    There is a FB old holder group that I belong to, and doily holders are in demand by many.

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  • orevilleoreville Posts: 11,994 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 17, 2024 9:06PM

    @MFeld said:

    @MFeld said:

    @oreville said:

    @Cougar1978 said:
    CDN bid for MS62

    As far as somebody pay a holder premium good luck.

    These have been approximate sales prices that I have observed recently:

    Doily without a CAC sticker , 5% to 10% premium
    Doily with green CAC sticker, 10% to 15% premium
    Doily with gold CAC sticker , 25% premium.

    The gold CAC sticker is clearly more valued as a collectible than the doily label.

    The premiums you reported look unrealistically modest for lower value coins.
    For example, are you saying that a Morgan dollar with a value of $200 would sell for only a $10 to $20 premium in a non-CAC doily holder? Or were you speaking just about higher value coins?

    Indeed, I was only referring to $20 Saints that the OP mentioned Of course the premiums are MUCH MUCH higher on lower valued coins.

    I should have clarified my post. Thank you for bringing it up.

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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Do DEALERS pay premiums for coins in "Doily" holders?

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  • orevilleoreville Posts: 11,994 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @291fifth said:
    Do DEALERS pay premiums for coins in "Doily" holders?

    Some do, many do not. That being said, many dealers will accept Doily labeled PCGS on consignment.

    I consigned a doily holdered coin at the FUN show. It sold at full price in 10 minutes.it was all about the plastic and interesting paper label NOT the coin.

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