One Cent - Possible Variants

MikeChinchilla

Hi friends,

I have some cents with possible variants. I need your help for validate it.

I share some photos with you.

Regards

1c 1998 DDO + DDR





2C 1864 DDR








1c 1988-D DDO (please see LINCOLN the side profile-DDR

hummingbird_coins

All three appear to be the more common machine doubling. Read more on the difference here.
By the way, nice pictures, and welcome to the forum.

MikeChinchilla

@hummingbird_coins said:
All three appear to be the more common machine doubling. Read more on the difference here.
By the way, nice pictures, and welcome to the forum.

Thanks friend, I will review the link.

Creg

Nice photos. You have skills. Whole renderings of both sides of the coin help too.

DCW

Beautiful pics.
Unfortunately, as has been stated already, these are not doubled dies. Do you notice how the "doubling" cuts into the design i stead of adding to it? That is a telltale sign of machine doubling, which carries no premium.
Keep looking, and when you see the real deal you will know it immediately.

MikeChinchilla

I read the difference Doubled Dies vs. Machine Doubling, but I find that it is easy when the duplication is easily seen but I understand that there are cases where it is not so marked.

I attach other cents images.

Thanks to all for your help.

1c 1967

1c 1939

1c 2000

jonathanb

@MikeChinchilla said:
I read the difference Doubled Dies vs. Machine Doubling, but I find that it is easy when the duplication is easily seen but I understand that there are cases where it is not so marked.

In your opinion, do any of your images NOT show "flat shelf-like doubling"?

ifthevamzarockin

All are machine doubling.

MikeChinchilla

@jonathanb said:

@MikeChinchilla said:
I read the difference Doubled Dies vs. Machine Doubling, but I find that it is easy when the duplication is easily seen but I understand that there are cases where it is not so marked.

In your opinion, do any of your images NOT show "flat shelf-like doubling"?

No, I can see the piece of metal that overlaps. Do you know of any company that evaluates them without having to pay for the encapsulation like PCGS?

Thanks.

MikeChinchilla

@ifthevamzarockin said:
All are machine doubling.

thanks

jonathanb

@MikeChinchilla said:

@jonathanb said:

@MikeChinchilla said:
I read the difference Doubled Dies vs. Machine Doubling, but I find that it is easy when the duplication is easily seen but I understand that there are cases where it is not so marked.

In your opinion, do any of your images NOT show "flat shelf-like doubling"?

No, I can see the piece of metal that overlaps. Do you know of any company that evaluates them without having to pay for the encapsulation like PCGS?

If you see flat shelf-like doubling on all of these, then you have already evaluated them correctly. There is no need for a second opinion from any company.

Creg

@MikeChinchilla said:
Do you know of any company that evaluates them without having to pay for the encapsulation like PCGS?

This forum is full of former hires of the TPGs. This is as good as free, not-seen-in-hand-advice as you will get. Many eyes have seen the photos and see little need to add to the opinions here.

I’d like to see how well you photograph a whole coin, if you don’t mind.

MikeChinchilla

@ifthevamzarockin said:
All are machine doubling.

thanks> @Creg said:

@MikeChinchilla said:
Do you know of any company that evaluates them without having to pay for the encapsulation like PCGS?

This forum is full of former hires of the TPGs. This is as good as free, not-seen-in-hand-advice as you will get. Many eyes have seen the photos and see little need to add to the opinions here.

I’d like to see how well you photograph a whole coin, if you don’t mind.

Ok, I will do. Give me some minutes.

Thanks.> @Creg said:

@MikeChinchilla said:
Do you know of any company that evaluates them without having to pay for the encapsulation like PCGS?

This forum is full of former hires of the TPGs. This is as good as free, not-seen-in-hand-advice as you will get. Many eyes have seen the photos and see little need to add to the opinions here.

I’d like to see how well you photograph a whole coin, if you don’t mind.

Thank so much

Creg

Nice, how accurate do you think colors are? Those latter photos would have sufficed to answer your questions.
Thank you.

MikeChinchilla

@Creg said:
Nice, how accurate do you think colors are? Those latter photos would have sufficed to answer your questions.
Thank you.

Yes, I get it.

About colors I used an AmScope UHM210 Series 1080p 2.0MP HDMI Digital Microscope on 11.

Regards.

Mr_Spud

This image gets posted a lot in threads about machine doubling versus doubled dies, I found it to be helpful to help tell the difference. The other advice I’ve read a lot of times that makes sense is to not just randomly look at coins looking for doubled dies, instead consult a coin variety reference book or online guide and look for known doubled die dates/mintmarks because if the dies themselves have doubling then there will be multiple examples of the same date/mintmark.

MikeChinchilla

@Mr_Spud said:
This image gets posted a lot in threads about machine doubling versus doubled dies, I found it to be helpful to help tell the difference. The other advice I’ve read a lot of times that makes sense is to not just randomly look at coins looking for doubled dies, instead consult a coin variety reference book or online guide and look for known doubled die dates/mintmarks because if the dies themselves have doubling then there will be multiple examples of the same date/mintmark.

Thanks so much.

nwcoast

The “notch” is one of the big and obvious giveaways. That, in combination with possible doubling on yet to be discovered date/mm’s. Keeping these two things in mind will save those searching a lot of time. Spending time searching for possible discovery pieces is a tremendous long shot.