1798 Bust Dollar Die Variety

zrnumismatics

Hi,
I saw this come up for sale and I spend a long time online trying to find a die match. I gave up and now I'm graciously asking y'all for assistance.
TYA

jacrispies

This looks like a BB-121, B-9, Die State IV.

jonathanb

Her eye looks funky to me. How sure are you that this is real?

jacrispies

Rarity 5 as well. Not a bad coin considering it all! I am curious about the obverse rim, K-6 to K-9.

jacrispies

This example of the same marriage has a similar rim anomaly, so I think it's good.

yosclimber

There used to be a very nice bust dollar attribution wizard at earlydollars.org , but it went inactive sometime this year.

RobertScotLover

@jacrispies said:
This example of the same marriage has a similar rim anomaly, so I think it's good.

Can you please show the reverse for matching purposes
something bugs me about the op's subject dollar

jacrispies

While I agree with you, the nickname for the reverse die is "Amateur Diecutter's Reverse" with lots of die rust mentioned at this late die state. So it may look funny in a few ways, but until it is closely examined in hand, it may be too difficult to absolutely confirm authenticity. I was also unable to find a comparable example that is this late of die state.

zrnumismatics

@yosclimber said:
There used to be a very nice bust dollar attribution wizard at earlydollars.org , but it went inactive sometime this year.

You just reminded me to try the wayback machine:
https://web.archive.org/web/20220122043812/http://earlydollars.org/coindata.asp?ID=33

zrnumismatics

@jacrispies said:
While I agree with you, the nickname for the reverse die is "Amateur Diecutter's Reverse" with lots of die rust mentioned at this late die state. So it may look funny in a few ways, but until it is closely examined in hand, it may be too difficult to absolutely confirm authenticity. I was also unable to find a comparable example that is this late of die state.

This looks like a match. The die lumps to the left of O in OF AMERICA match up.
It's too bad that there are none with a late die state that share a crack on the 2nd star on the obverse and a die crack running through M in AMERICA on the reverse.

Now the question is whether or not it has a shot at a straight grade.
Thanks for the assistance.

RobertScotLover

Stars don't look right on the rev imho

yosclimber

@zrnumismatics said:

@yosclimber said:
There used to be a very nice bust dollar attribution wizard at earlydollars.org , but it went inactive sometime this year.

You just reminded me to try the wayback machine:
https://web.archive.org/web/20220122043812/http://earlydollars.org/coindata.asp?ID=33

On the archive.org version, the individual die variety pages work, which is good if you already know the variety.
But the attribution wizard pages fail:
https://web.archive.org/web/20220122052141/http://earlydollars.org/wizarddata.asp?ID=54

jacrispies

Sounds like y'all need to grab a copy of this guy -