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GTG - Four 1907-Ds For Research

FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 3,304 ✭✭✭✭✭

I'm collecting some statistics here, so please do not cheat. It will be easy to tell if you did, or did not, cheat.

Best of luck, and don't forget designations (PR, SP,MS,PL,DMPL,Star)!

Coin #1


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Coin #2


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Coin #3


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Coin #4

Coin Photographer.

Comments

  • I'll guess
    AU-58
    MS-63*
    MS-63 PL
    MS-65

  • RobertScotLoverRobertScotLover Posts: 949 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Coin #1 & #4 are my favs, with #4 being Numero uno

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,613 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 9, 2024 1:11PM

    I don’t dare try to guess the grades and designations, as I think assessing designations is particularly problematic from images. However, in terms of which coin looks most Proof(y), I rank them as follows:

    4

    1

    2

    3

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • jfriedm56jfriedm56 Posts: 1,282 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’m guessing MS63, MS63, MS64PL, MS65.

  • JerseyBJerseyB Posts: 118 ✭✭✭

    Ill shoot
    64 pl
    64
    63pl
    65

  • pcgscacgoldpcgscacgold Posts: 2,902 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I keep it simple and use the same guesses I used over on the CAC forum:

    PR64
    MS63
    PL63
    SP65

  • dhikewhitneydhikewhitney Posts: 465 ✭✭✭✭

    It is tough to guess from those photos. I don't like the surfaces in them. The coins are probably great though, and if straight graded, I guess:
    MS64, MS62+, MS62, and MS65

  • dcarrdcarr Posts: 8,519 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1) SP65
    2) MS63 PL (possible light cleaning)
    3) SP63 (possible light cleaning)
    4) MS66+ PL

  • DrewUDrewU Posts: 177 ✭✭✭

    1) SP 64+
    2) ms-64 PL
    3) ms-64 DMPL Star
    4 PR-65+

  • hummingbird_coinshummingbird_coins Posts: 1,149 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1. SP65
    2. MS63
    3. PF62
    4. MS66 PL Star

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  • privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,425 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64
    63
    62
    64

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  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,018 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 11, 2024 9:34AM

    4 would be my favorite of the 4 coins. Shame about the blemish on the reverse and I hope the white spot is a piece of lint on the holder and not the coin.

    Jim

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  • hummingbird_coinshummingbird_coins Posts: 1,149 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jesbroken said:

    4 would be my favorite of the 4 coins. Shame about the blemish on the reverse and I hope the white spot is a piece of lint on the holder and not the coin.

    Jim

    I've retyped this 3 times and still yelling. Glitch doesn't happen when editing

    It's not a glitch - it's part of markdown, a formatting system which makes your text heading sized when there is a hash symbol in front of it.

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  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 13,977 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1
    4
    3
    2

    The one that look most proof to me.

    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
  • FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 3,304 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Grades are:
    MS64 Star PL
    MS64PL
    SP62
    SP65

    Coin Photographer.

  • Aegis3Aegis3 Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭

    With the grades posted, thoughts mostly on other topics. First, punting on the questions of the existence of branch mint proofs, and whether "specimen" has any meaning in regards to these coins, I would say that "4" would be most likely to be proof, followed by "1", and "2" and "3" are just not.

    Second, one of these had documentation of some sort with it. I think it was within the Stack/s/Bowers/ANR/real B&M lineage, maybe 2008 give or take a couple of years. If I remember, I'll look it up later. In brief, there was no suggestion that said coin was a proof, just ("just"?) a ceremonial first striking.

    Third, dies. There are at least two obverses, Coins "1" and "3" are likely from the same die. Coin "2" is clearly a different die; "4" may be the same die as "2", or yet another one. (PUP: position of 9 wrt signature above). As for the reverses, I just cannot tell if they are from one or multiple dies, at least not now.

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    Ed. S.

    (EJS)
  • hummingbird_coinshummingbird_coins Posts: 1,149 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Aegis3 said:
    I would say that "4" would be most likely to be proof, followed by "1", and "2" and "3" are just not.

    My order was 1,3,2,4 mainly focusing on the sharpness of the stars. How did you come to your conclusion?

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  • s4nys4ny Posts: 1,569 ✭✭✭

    I could say MS62 on all 4. I think the previous comments are too generous.

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,613 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 12, 2024 12:57PM

    @s4ny said:
    I could say MS62 on all 4. I think the previous comments are too generous.

    You can say whatever you like but your assessments aren’t realistic relative to predominant grading standards.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • Aegis3Aegis3 Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭

    @hummingbird_coins said:

    @Aegis3 said:
    I would say that "4" would be most likely to be proof, followed by "1", and "2" and "3" are just not.

    My order was 1,3,2,4 mainly focusing on the sharpness of the stars. How did you come to your conclusion?

    Well, I'll be honest, my choices were mainly intuitive. "2" and "3" just looked like they had spent significant time in bags with other coins. And finally, "4" just looked it had better surfaces than "1".

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    Ed. S.

    (EJS)

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