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"Proof" eBay does not care about reporting items . . .

Russell12Russell12 Posts: 232 ✭✭✭✭
edited November 4, 2024 5:36AM in U.S. Coin Forum

I filed a report for this item, it's an UNSLABBED Sacagawea being called "PCGS MS65"
https://www.ebay.com/itm/235702095240

Here is the response I got . . .

A decision was made on the listing you reported

Hello xxxxxxxx,
Thanks again for reporting the listing(s) you found.

What happened:
We looked into your report and didn’t find the listing to be in violation of our policy. This determination was made by a customer service agent.

If you reported content that isn’t listed below, we’ll send a separate email once we’ve made a decision.

Your reference ID:
2-187338563435

Here are the listings you reported that are included in this decision:
Item: 235702095240 2009 $1 SACAGAWEA NATIVE AMERICAN DOLLAR ERROR MISSING EDGE LETTERING PCGS MS65

Thank you for being part of the eBay community.

Do real people look at these anymore?

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  • pocketpiececommemspocketpiececommems Posts: 5,865 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,142 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I tried and used the following. (I rarely submit reports)

    Listing practices
    Fraudulent listing activities
    You suspect that the listing is fraudulent

    The coin shown is not graded by PCGS. Listing a raw coin as MS65 is not allowed.

  • BStrauss3BStrauss3 Posts: 3,415 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Face it, eBay doesn't care. And using an artificial stupid lets them put another layer in front.

    In business school, they taught us you can predict behavior with better than 9 of 10 accuracy if you understand how something is valued/paid for... eBay makes money off FVFs.

    -----Burton
    ANA 50 year/Life Member (now "Emeritus")
  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 34,219 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BStrauss3 said:
    Face it, eBay doesn't care. And using an artificial stupid lets them put another layer in front.

    In business school, they taught us you can predict behavior with better than 9 of 10 accuracy if you understand how something is valued/paid for... eBay makes money off FVFs.

    The determination was made by a customer service agent

    This is also the kind of listing that isn't really worth reporting. Anyone who thinks that's a PCGS 65, doesn't know what either term means.

  • BullsitterBullsitter Posts: 5,649 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Russell12 said:
    I filed a report for this item, it's an UNSLABBED Sacagawea being called "PCGS MS65"
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/235702095240

    Here is the response I got . . .

    A decision was made on the listing you reported

    Hello xxxxxxxx,
    Thanks again for reporting the listing(s) you found.

    What happened:
    We looked into your report and didn’t find the listing to be in violation of our policy. This determination was made by a customer service agent.

    If you reported content that isn’t listed below, we’ll send a separate email once we’ve made a decision.

    Your reference ID:
    2-187338563435

    Here are the listings you reported that are included in this decision:
    Item: 235702095240 2009 $1 SACAGAWEA NATIVE AMERICAN DOLLAR ERROR MISSING EDGE LETTERING PCGS MS65

    Thank you for being part of the eBay community.

    Do real people look at these anymore?

    .
    .
    .
    It's been removed.

  • BStrauss3BStrauss3 Posts: 3,415 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @BStrauss3 said:
    Face it, eBay doesn't care. And using an artificial stupid lets them put another layer in front.

    In business school, they taught us you can predict behavior with better than 9 of 10 accuracy if you understand how something is valued/paid for... eBay makes money off FVFs.

    The determination was made by a customer service agent

    This is also the kind of listing that isn't really worth reporting. Anyone who thinks that's a PCGS 65, doesn't know what either term means.

    Do you really think it's anything more than a screen that shows the listing plus a button for the CSR to press? And the "It's OK" button is pre-selected???

    -----Burton
    ANA 50 year/Life Member (now "Emeritus")
  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,491 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Russell12 said:
    I filed a report for this item, it's an UNSLABBED Sacagawea being called "PCGS MS65"
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/235702095240

    Here is the response I got . . .

    A decision was made on the listing you reported

    Hello xxxxxxxx,
    Thanks again for reporting the listing(s) you found.

    What happened:
    We looked into your report and didn’t find the listing to be in violation of our policy. This determination was made by a customer service agent.

    If you reported content that isn’t listed below, we’ll send a separate email once we’ve made a decision.

    Your reference ID:
    2-187338563435

    Here are the listings you reported that are included in this decision:
    Item: 235702095240 2009 $1 SACAGAWEA NATIVE AMERICAN DOLLAR ERROR MISSING EDGE LETTERING PCGS MS65

    Thank you for being part of the eBay community.

    Do real people look at these anymore?

    The response you received isn't actually proof, as the listing was removed by eBay. I've received the same reply to many other coins I've reported, but which were also subsequently removed.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,491 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @davewesen said:
    I tried and used the following. (I rarely submit reports)

    Listing practices
    Fraudulent listing activities
    You suspect that the listing is fraudulent

    The coin shown is not graded by PCGS. Listing a raw coin as MS65 is not allowed.

    This would have been a better option for reporting the listing:

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • braddickbraddick Posts: 23,983 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As Mark pointed out, if the report form isn't filled out correctly it is more than likely automated with an unfavorable response.

    Perhaps seeing now what eBay did to handle the subject coin the OP could modify and edit this thread with a different headline?

    peacockcoins

  • GreenstangGreenstang Posts: 1,121 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It has been removed by eBay. They must have listened to somebody.

  • Russell12Russell12 Posts: 232 ✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @Russell12 said:

    The response you received isn't actually proof, as the listing was removed by eBay. I've received the same reply to many other coins I've reported, but which were also subsequently removed.

    I don't think eBay removed it. I put this coin on my watch list and got an offer from the seller for $20. I asked him for the PCGS certification number. He must have removed it.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 34,219 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 4, 2024 11:55AM

    @Russell12 said:

    @MFeld said:

    @Russell12 said:

    The response you received isn't actually proof, as the listing was removed by eBay. I've received the same reply to many other coins I've reported, but which were also subsequently removed.

    I don't think eBay removed it. I put this coin on my watch list and got an offer from the seller for $20. I asked him for the PCGS certification number. He must have removed it.

    Not possible. If he ended the listing, it would still be there but ended. Ebay removed it completely.

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,491 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @Russell12 said:

    @MFeld said:

    @Russell12 said:

    The response you received isn't actually proof, as the listing was removed by eBay. I've received the same reply to many other coins I've reported, but which were also subsequently removed.

    I don't think eBay removed it. I put this coin on my watch list and got an offer from the seller for $20. I asked him for the PCGS certification number. He must have removed it.

    Not possible. If he ended the listing, it would still be there but ended. Ebay removed it completely.

    In addition to that, if you click on a link for an eBay listing and the below message appears, it means that eBay removed the item, rather than that the seller ended the listing.

    “We looked everywhere.
    Looks like this page is missing. If you still need help, visit our help pages.
    Go to homepage”

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • burfle23burfle23 Posts: 2,330 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The listing was reported and removed...

  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,142 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @davewesen said:
    I tried and used the following. (I rarely submit reports)

    Listing practices
    Fraudulent listing activities
    You suspect that the listing is fraudulent

    The coin shown is not graded by PCGS. Listing a raw coin as MS65 is not allowed.

    This would have been a better option for reporting the listing:

    Do you feel eBay cares more about keyword spamming than fraudulent listing?

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 34,219 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @davewesen said:

    @MFeld said:

    @davewesen said:
    I tried and used the following. (I rarely submit reports)

    Listing practices
    Fraudulent listing activities
    You suspect that the listing is fraudulent

    The coin shown is not graded by PCGS. Listing a raw coin as MS65 is not allowed.

    This would have been a better option for reporting the listing:

    Do you feel eBay cares more about keyword spamming than fraudulent listing?

    It's easier to verify.

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,491 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @davewesen said:

    @MFeld said:

    @davewesen said:
    I tried and used the following. (I rarely submit reports)

    Listing practices
    Fraudulent listing activities
    You suspect that the listing is fraudulent

    The coin shown is not graded by PCGS. Listing a raw coin as MS65 is not allowed.

    This would have been a better option for reporting the listing:

    Do you feel eBay cares more about keyword spamming than fraudulent listing?

    I don’t know. But that’s beside the point because as @jmlanzaf posted, keyword spamming is much easier to verify than fraud.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,142 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I suspect eBay is as concerned about keyword spamming as they are about shill bidding. Both help their bottom line.

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,491 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @davewesen said:
    I suspect eBay is as concerned about keyword spamming as they are about shill bidding. Both help their bottom line.

    I suspect that you're correct. But at least they removed this particular listing, as they do with some (though not nearly enough) others.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

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