WHO SNAGGED THE PCGS UNATTRIBUTED 1876-CC TRD $ DDR FROM MY GRASP IN 11/3 GC AUCTION?

WENT FOR 1800.01 PLUS JUICE IN AN AU CLEANED HOLDER
50 yrs in Coins, 40 yrs Certifying/Grading, 30 consecutive years teaching ANA Summer seminar, 1998 Numismatic Ambassador award, 1998 Doctorate in Numismatics, Glenn Smedley Award, ANA Governor 200/2011, Author/ Host of ANA's best selling video's, courses on grading & counterfeit detection. Taught over 1,100 paying students, Secret service agents, San Diego to Boston, Anchorage to Miami, including 2 coin cruises. Free presentations. NLG book and video awards. ANA photographer, SEM operator, Appraiser, Contributor to Redbook, Numismatist, Coin World, Numismatic News ANA Grading Guides, 40,000 Volumes in my Library, Founder ANAAB, ICG, 1995 ANA collector services appraisal/conservation, First full service Ancient coin grading service. OD Navy 75-77, WIU 77-81, Coin dealer 1981-1984, 60 year Collector U.S./ 50 Year Ancient coins. 2011-date ANA Advisory Committee. Lifetime member ANA, ANS
Semi-retired Professional Grader(ANACS) and married, Father to 3 teenage boys in Denver area.
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Sounds expensive, wait what is a TRD?
Yes, Trade dollar, DDR bid is $1900 for an AU50, $4500 for an AU 58. Probably worth middle money. PCGS did not do the submitter any justice by missing this scarce and easily identifiable variety.
50 yrs in Coins, 40 yrs Certifying/Grading, 30 consecutive years teaching ANA Summer seminar, 1998 Numismatic Ambassador award, 1998 Doctorate in Numismatics, Glenn Smedley Award, ANA Governor 200/2011, Author/ Host of ANA's best selling video's, courses on grading & counterfeit detection. Taught over 1,100 paying students, Secret service agents, San Diego to Boston, Anchorage to Miami, including 2 coin cruises. Free presentations. NLG book and video awards. ANA photographer, SEM operator, Appraiser, Contributor to Redbook, Numismatist, Coin World, Numismatic News ANA Grading Guides, 40,000 Volumes in my Library, Founder ANAAB, ICG, 1995 ANA collector services appraisal/conservation, First full service Ancient coin grading service. OD Navy 75-77, WIU 77-81, Coin dealer 1981-1984, 60 year Collector U.S./ 50 Year Ancient coins. 2011-date ANA Advisory Committee. Lifetime member ANA, ANS
Semi-retired Professional Grader(ANACS) and married, Father to 3 teenage boys in Denver area.
I thought that the 1876-cc DDR are not very rare?
Obviously I am mistaken
Not rare, But I don't have one. Worth double the money in AU58.
50 yrs in Coins, 40 yrs Certifying/Grading, 30 consecutive years teaching ANA Summer seminar, 1998 Numismatic Ambassador award, 1998 Doctorate in Numismatics, Glenn Smedley Award, ANA Governor 200/2011, Author/ Host of ANA's best selling video's, courses on grading & counterfeit detection. Taught over 1,100 paying students, Secret service agents, San Diego to Boston, Anchorage to Miami, including 2 coin cruises. Free presentations. NLG book and video awards. ANA photographer, SEM operator, Appraiser, Contributor to Redbook, Numismatist, Coin World, Numismatic News ANA Grading Guides, 40,000 Volumes in my Library, Founder ANAAB, ICG, 1995 ANA collector services appraisal/conservation, First full service Ancient coin grading service. OD Navy 75-77, WIU 77-81, Coin dealer 1981-1984, 60 year Collector U.S./ 50 Year Ancient coins. 2011-date ANA Advisory Committee. Lifetime member ANA, ANS
Semi-retired Professional Grader(ANACS) and married, Father to 3 teenage boys in Denver area.
I guess they didn't pay for attribution. I should think GC Auctions would have caught it.
They just say what is on the label for their title/description.
Link?
https://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/1691641/1876-CC-Trade-Silver-Dollar-PCGS-Genuine-AU-Details
You’re joking right?
At ANACS we do Redbook varieties for free. As a grader I would not let this go out unattributed. I have no Idea what pcgs does.
50 yrs in Coins, 40 yrs Certifying/Grading, 30 consecutive years teaching ANA Summer seminar, 1998 Numismatic Ambassador award, 1998 Doctorate in Numismatics, Glenn Smedley Award, ANA Governor 200/2011, Author/ Host of ANA's best selling video's, courses on grading & counterfeit detection. Taught over 1,100 paying students, Secret service agents, San Diego to Boston, Anchorage to Miami, including 2 coin cruises. Free presentations. NLG book and video awards. ANA photographer, SEM operator, Appraiser, Contributor to Redbook, Numismatist, Coin World, Numismatic News ANA Grading Guides, 40,000 Volumes in my Library, Founder ANAAB, ICG, 1995 ANA collector services appraisal/conservation, First full service Ancient coin grading service. OD Navy 75-77, WIU 77-81, Coin dealer 1981-1984, 60 year Collector U.S./ 50 Year Ancient coins. 2011-date ANA Advisory Committee. Lifetime member ANA, ANS
Semi-retired Professional Grader(ANACS) and married, Father to 3 teenage boys in Denver area.
It's one of my favorite varieties but it's not that difficult. And anyone can see what it is, it's not subtle. Greysheet for AU50 is $1900. I think $2000 for a cleaned AU is a very strong price
chopmarkedtradedollars.com
You just read what PCGS does. Apparently, you work at ANACS. AFAIK, both ANACS and ICG will give free variety attribution on obvious known varieties. I suspect that savvy dealers and collectors know this and must take advantage of it. Do you agree?
So someone else cherrypicked your cherrypick?
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/everyman-collections/everyman-dollars/everyman-carson-city-morgan-dollars-circulation-strikes-1878-1893/alltimeset/342506
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/type-sets-by-mint/carson-city-basic-type-set-circulation-strikes-1870-1893/alltimeset/378275
That and a good bid strategy with the 1 cent.
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Oh, that IS a good strategy! I’ll remember that one for sure, great thread.😉👍
We surprise many collectors and a few dealers with unexpected variety designations. I consider it part of the job to try to create value for a submission. Unfortunately that seems to be ANACS lot, More work for less money. I spend some of my limited time looking for under grades and unattributed and misattributed varieties. 3 teenage boys keep me busy.
50 yrs in Coins, 40 yrs Certifying/Grading, 30 consecutive years teaching ANA Summer seminar, 1998 Numismatic Ambassador award, 1998 Doctorate in Numismatics, Glenn Smedley Award, ANA Governor 200/2011, Author/ Host of ANA's best selling video's, courses on grading & counterfeit detection. Taught over 1,100 paying students, Secret service agents, San Diego to Boston, Anchorage to Miami, including 2 coin cruises. Free presentations. NLG book and video awards. ANA photographer, SEM operator, Appraiser, Contributor to Redbook, Numismatist, Coin World, Numismatic News ANA Grading Guides, 40,000 Volumes in my Library, Founder ANAAB, ICG, 1995 ANA collector services appraisal/conservation, First full service Ancient coin grading service. OD Navy 75-77, WIU 77-81, Coin dealer 1981-1984, 60 year Collector U.S./ 50 Year Ancient coins. 2011-date ANA Advisory Committee. Lifetime member ANA, ANS
Semi-retired Professional Grader(ANACS) and married, Father to 3 teenage boys in Denver area.
@KOYNGUY
I have used ANACS for the last 40 or so coins sent raw to GC and saved $800 in fees for attribution. Don't think the holder value cost me anywhere near that. Thank you ANACS. BTW does ANACS do that for regular submission by members or just thru GC? JMO
Jim
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I have noticed that over a few recent GC auctions there have been some scarce varieties, usually circulated, and unattributed, selling for strong money. I wonder if a variety collector is trickling out their collection over a period of time?
Are you thinking of the F Details 76-S 1/2 Large S and XF45 2/2 Large S from a couple of weeks ago? Or a different series?
chopmarkedtradedollars.com
You got it!
I bought the 2/2 just to make sure it found a good home with someone who would appreciate it, even though it's not chopped. I'll re-home it soon.
I would have done the same for the 1/2 also but it was just too problematic and I couldn't pull the trigger.
chopmarkedtradedollars.com
ANACS Charges for most variety attributions outside of the red book. The general rule is if we have to crack a book, we charge. VAMS, Breen, Snow, Etc. If the variety is valuable to the submitter, but not paid/asked for, we sometimes do it free. All red book varieties are free. J.P.
50 yrs in Coins, 40 yrs Certifying/Grading, 30 consecutive years teaching ANA Summer seminar, 1998 Numismatic Ambassador award, 1998 Doctorate in Numismatics, Glenn Smedley Award, ANA Governor 200/2011, Author/ Host of ANA's best selling video's, courses on grading & counterfeit detection. Taught over 1,100 paying students, Secret service agents, San Diego to Boston, Anchorage to Miami, including 2 coin cruises. Free presentations. NLG book and video awards. ANA photographer, SEM operator, Appraiser, Contributor to Redbook, Numismatist, Coin World, Numismatic News ANA Grading Guides, 40,000 Volumes in my Library, Founder ANAAB, ICG, 1995 ANA collector services appraisal/conservation, First full service Ancient coin grading service. OD Navy 75-77, WIU 77-81, Coin dealer 1981-1984, 60 year Collector U.S./ 50 Year Ancient coins. 2011-date ANA Advisory Committee. Lifetime member ANA, ANS
Semi-retired Professional Grader(ANACS) and married, Father to 3 teenage boys in Denver area.
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