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[BIG] Citizens Coinage Advisory Committee Meeting Recap (October 2024)

KellenCoinKellenCoin Posts: 1,206 ✭✭✭✭

My name is Kellen Hoard, and I currently serve as one of the Representatives of the General Public on the Citizens Coinage Advisory Committee. I am an undergraduate student, and the youngest person to ever serve on the Committee. For those of you unfamiliar with the CCAC, it was established in 2003 by Congress to advise the Secretary of the Treasury on the themes and designs of all US coins and medals. The CCAC serves as an informed, experienced and impartial resource to the Secretary of the Treasury and represents the interests of American citizens and collectors.

This is the sixth installment of my updates about what the CCAC is doing at its meetings. I think it is critical that the collecting community have insight into and input to the CCAC, and will try to answer any questions you may have.

This meeting was a big one; we voted to recommend designs for the 2026 Semiquincentennial program. It was also a heavily divided meeting; several of the designs were recommended by only a bare majority of the committee. I won't differentiate between which designs were split decisions and which were unanimous here, but you can look through the Youtube recording or transcripts if you wish.

Here is my update for the CCAC meeting on October 15 and 16, 2024.

Day 1
1. Former member Dennis Tucker was awarded the Public Service Award for his service to the CCAC.
2. Candidate designs for the 2026-2028 American Eagle Platinum Proof Coin were discussed. The series will be issued over 3 years and will celebrate the Declaration of Independence, Constitution, and Bill of Rights, respectively. Mint artists proposed designs in sets of 3. The CCAC recommended the following design for 2026, and "indicated a preference," although not a formal recommendation yet, for the same artist's corollary designs in 2027 and 2028 pending some corrections to design features like the sun.

3. Candidate designs for the 2026 Semiquincentennial Quarter celebrating the Declaration of Independence were discussed, in consultation with National Archives Director of the Central for Legislative Archives Richard Hunt and Library of Congress Director of Professional Learning and Outreach Initiatives Lee Ann Potter. The CCAC did not make a recommendation for this series on Day 1, opting to make a complete set of recommendations about the semiquincentennial series on Day 2.
4. Candidate designs for the 2026 Semiquincentennial Quarter celebrating the U.S. Constitution were discussed, in consultation again with Richard Hunt and Lee Ann Potter. Again, the CCAC opted to vote on the series on Day 2 of the meeting.
5. Candidate designs for the 2026 Semiquincentennial Quarter celebrating Abolitionism (the CCAC later voted to recommend it be instead called simply "Abolition") were discussed, in consultation with Frederick Douglass' great-great-great grandson Ken Morris and Curator at the National Museum of African American History and Culture Mary Elliott. Again, the CCAC opted to vote on the series on Day 2 of the meeting.
6. Candidate designs for the 2026 Semiquicentennial Quarter celebrating Suffrage were discussed, in consultation with Vice President of External Affairs for the National Women's History Museum Jen Herrera, Managing Director of the Allenswood Group Allida Black, and Women's History Curator at the Boston Museum of African American History Angela Tate. The CCAC opted to vote on the series on Day 2 of the meeting.
7. Candidate designs for the 2026 Semiquicentennial Quarter celebrating Civil Rights were discussed, in consultation with Ruby Bridges (!!) and Lance Volland of the Ruby Bridges Foundation. The CCAC opted to vote on this series on Day 2 of the meeting.

Day 2
1. Candidate designs for the 2026 Semiquicentennial Dime were discussed, in consultation with Richard Hunt and Lee Ann Potter. The CCAC opted to vote on this series later in the day.
2. Candidate designs for the 2026 Semiquicentennial Half Dollar were discussed, in consultation with Richard Hunt and Lee Ann Potter. The CCAC opted to vote on this series later in the day.
3. Finally, the voting! After extensive discussion, the CCAC voted to recommend the following for the 2026 Semiquincentennial series. Several of the recommendations came with suggested modifications to design elements and inscriptions, which I do not list here.

Dime

Declaration of Independence Quarter

U.S. Constitution Quarter

Abolition Quarter

Suffrage Quarter

Civil Rights Quarter

Half Dollar

Let me know if you have any questions about the work done in this meeting; I will try to answer as well as I can, but there are contraints on what I am able to share publicly. Please remember that the CCAC does not make the final decision; instead, it makes its recommendation (alongside the Commission of Fine Arts) to the Secretary of the Treasury. If you would like to watch the October meeting in full in order to see all of the deliberations, it is available on Youtube here and here.

CCAC Representative of the General Public
Columnist for The Numismatist
2021 Young Numismatist of the Year

Comments

  • CRHer700CRHer700 Posts: 1,870 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Can you lobby for special, low mintage W mm coins of all denominations to be issued alongside the regular coins?

    God bless all who believe in him. Do unto others what you expect to be done to you. Dubbed a "Committee Secret Agent" by @mr1931S on 7/23/24. Founding member of CU Anti-Troll League since 9/24/24.

  • CRHer700CRHer700 Posts: 1,870 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like the dime and the first quarter very much. Second quarter and half are ok. ........

    God bless all who believe in him. Do unto others what you expect to be done to you. Dubbed a "Committee Secret Agent" by @mr1931S on 7/23/24. Founding member of CU Anti-Troll League since 9/24/24.

  • hummingbird_coinshummingbird_coins Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The semiquincentennial program "strikes" me as a good opportunity to transition to different long-term designs for cent through half dollar. Are there any plans for this?

    Young Numismatist • My Toned Coins
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  • KellenCoinKellenCoin Posts: 1,206 ✭✭✭✭

    @hummingbird_coins said:
    The semiquincentennial program "strikes" me as a good opportunity to transition to different long-term designs for cent through half dollar. Are there any plans for this?

    The legislation authorizing this program only allows for them to be struck for one year. Starting in 2027, the cent, nickel, and dime will revert back. The quarter and half dollar will move to the Youth Sports reverses for the next few years.

    CCAC Representative of the General Public
    Columnist for The Numismatist
    2021 Young Numismatist of the Year

  • hummingbird_coinshummingbird_coins Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @KellenCoin said:

    @hummingbird_coins said:
    The semiquincentennial program "strikes" me as a good opportunity to transition to different long-term designs for cent through half dollar. Are there any plans for this?

    The legislation authorizing this program only allows for them to be struck for one year. Starting in 2027, the cent, nickel, and dime will revert back. The quarter and half dollar will move to the Youth Sports reverses for the next few years.

    That's what I was thinking - after 2026, not reverting back to the old designs altogether. The new program seems like a good change of pace, especially for the half dollar, but personally, I would like to see something new on each side instead of the same old presidents.

    Young Numismatist • My Toned Coins
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  • mattnissmattniss Posts: 694 ✭✭✭✭

    Thanks as always for sharing @KellenCoin! I liked the dime, the abolition quarter, and the half dollar the most out of everything shared. Also very glad to see Ruby Bridges being involved in the consideration process for the civil rights quarter.

  • CRHer700CRHer700 Posts: 1,870 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @291fifth said:
    The Abolition theme simply does not fit in with the 1776 date. There was no abolition in 1776. The same can be said for the Women's Suffrage theme.

    The Civil Rights theme design refers to only one group of people. This issue has affected far more than just the best known group.

    The Constitution did not appear until 1787. Why is it being celebrated on a coin in 2026?

    The reverse of the dime has far too much writing. Drop "Liberty over Tyranny".

    The platinum proof obverse is boring. But how many people even care about this issue?

    You have the brazen attitude that I don't. 👍👍👍

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  • NeophyteNumismatistNeophyteNumismatist Posts: 1,064 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 25, 2024 11:45AM

    I <3 Dime -03, I could take-or-leave the others.

    I am a newer collector (started April 2020), and I primarily focus on U.S. Half Cents and Type Coins. Early copper is my favorite.

  • JeffersonFrogJeffersonFrog Posts: 868 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think the dime, quarters and half designs are just fine. Better than fine, I actually like them.

    Already been suggested by others:

    • Dime Reverse, drop the OVER TYRANNY and use only LIBERTY like was done on the Declaration Quarter.
    • Okay, let's celebrate the Constitution, Abolitionism, Suffrage and Civil Rights - but drop the 1776, the history is wrong. Seriously, our own government can't get 8th grade history dates correct?

    Thank you for sharing.

    If we were all the same, the world would be an incredibly boring place.

    Tommy

  • hummingbird_coinshummingbird_coins Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @winesteven said:
    3. The Constitution Quarter obverse is great, but what the heck is on the reverse?

    Can't you see? It's 2 horns holding up 2 bananas holding up a mushroom on top of a sun with a face on a plate balanced on 2 more bananas on 3 stalks of asparagus.

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  • winestevenwinesteven Posts: 4,471 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @hummingbird_coins said:

    @winesteven said:
    3. The Constitution Quarter obverse is great, but what the heck is on the reverse?

    Can't you see? It's 2 horns holding up 2 bananas holding up a mushroom on top of a sun with a face on a plate balanced on 2 more bananas on 3 stalks of asparagus.

    And that’s EXACTLY my point! If average people can’t figure it out without an explanation, kill it!!!!

    Steve

    A day without fine wine and working on your coin collection is like a day without sunshine!!!

    My collecting “Pride & Joy” is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set:
    https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/design-type-sets/complete-dansco-7070-modified-type-set-1796-date/publishedset/213996
  • CregCreg Posts: 406 ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 26, 2024 3:01AM

    @winesteven said:
    3. The Constitution Quarter obverse is great, but what the heck is on the reverse?

    It is the backrest of a shield back dining chair from the Federal period.

    Thank you Kellen!

  • Again I say...you're doing us all a service, Kellen. Thank you.

    "Next year we could have an 8 cent nickel. Think what that would mean. You could go to a newsstand, buy a 3 cent newspaper, and get the same nickel back again. One nickel carefully used could last a family a lifetime." - Capt. Jeffrey T. Spaulding

  • Alpha2814Alpha2814 Posts: 43 ✭✭✭

    @Creg said:
    It is the backrest of a shield back dining chair from the Federal period.

    I thought you were joking, but my husband said the same thing. I still would have chosen something else.

  • BStrauss3BStrauss3 Posts: 3,402 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @hummingbird_coins said:
    The semiquincentennial program "strikes" me as a good opportunity to transition to different long-term designs for cent through half dollar. Are there any plans for this?

    The enabling legislation establishes the return to current designs plus the follow-on programs too.

    The mint has existing authority to change designs after 25 years, i.e. the Roosevelt dime.

    -----Burton
    ANA 50 year/Life Member (now "Emeritus")
  • shortnockshortnock Posts: 411 ✭✭✭

    Really like the half!!! All nice drawings. Feel the designs look good on paper, but not so much when reduced onto coinage.

  • PhillyJoePhillyJoe Posts: 2,699 ✭✭✭✭

    I think most of us who filled out the Mint’s survey realized that the coinage for 2026 would include recognition of the 250th anniversary; but the Treasury Department wanted to recognize events that have occurred over the last 250 years while de-emphasizing the events of 1776. Disappointing, but that is today’s world.

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  • winestevenwinesteven Posts: 4,471 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 27, 2024 10:53AM

    @PhillyJoe said:
    I think most of us who filled out the Mint’s survey realized that the coinage for 2026 would include recognition of the 250th anniversary; but the Treasury Department wanted to recognize events that have occurred over the last 250 years while de-emphasizing the events of 1776. Disappointing, but that is today’s world.

    Your facts are correct. However, with that said, we should not just sit back and say that is today's world. I strongly believe we need to continue to speak up regarding what we believe is RIGHT, despite a few high level bureaucrats who are blinded by agendas different from the actual point of commemorating on THESE coins what happened 250 years ago, NOT what happened throughout all 250 years!

    As I indicated earlier, those other ideas (and designs) are good, but they should be used on OTHER coins, NOT coins commemorating 1776!!!!!

    Steve

    A day without fine wine and working on your coin collection is like a day without sunshine!!!

    My collecting “Pride & Joy” is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set:
    https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/design-type-sets/complete-dansco-7070-modified-type-set-1796-date/publishedset/213996
  • PhillyJoePhillyJoe Posts: 2,699 ✭✭✭✭

    Maybe my choice of “events” was not the best.
    In other words, going back just 100 years, Mount Rushmore would not be built today given the make up of the individuals being honored.

    1776 is being commemorated in a similar way that includes those not present when the Declaration of Independence was signed.

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  • Pnies20Pnies20 Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Can we just do away with coins at this point? Give me Chuck E. Cheese tokens or something.

    BHNC #248 … 130 and counting.

  • winestevenwinesteven Posts: 4,471 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PhillyJoe said:
    Maybe my choice of “events” was not the best.
    In other words, going back just 100 years, Mount Rushmore would not be built today given the make up of the individuals being honored.

    1776 is being commemorated in a similar way that includes those not present when the Declaration of Independence was signed.

    And that, in my opinion, is the problem. Coins celebrating 1776 should be closely related to being from that time period! Things like Abolition, suffrage, and Civil Rights did not occur ANYWHERE near that time period! As noted, those are good causes, but they should not steal these coins for the recognition they deserve! Celebrate those worthwhile causes and their designs on other coins!!!

    Steve

    A day without fine wine and working on your coin collection is like a day without sunshine!!!

    My collecting “Pride & Joy” is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set:
    https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/design-type-sets/complete-dansco-7070-modified-type-set-1796-date/publishedset/213996
  • JCH22JCH22 Posts: 160 ✭✭✭

    Dime reverse: our Eagle is now solely a symbol of war, carrying only arrows and jettisoning the olive branch of peace?? How could that slip by?

    Was a period design featuring any of : Crispus Attucks, Salem Poor, The First Rhode Island Regiment/Varnum's Regiment, James Armistead Lafayette, Prince Whipple----just to list a very few-- even considered. Seems a missed opportunity to celebrate any, of the many, contributions of African Americans to Independence. Independence sure involved more than just the Liberty Bell...

  • PhillyJoePhillyJoe Posts: 2,699 ✭✭✭✭

    Independence did involve more than the Liberty Bell, but we are celebrating the 250th adoption and signing of the Declaration of Independence which is one event, in one place, on one day, by one group of people. It’s been a Federal holiday since 1870. Can’t we celebrate it without muddying the waters? Does “Women’s Suffrage 1776-2026” or “Civil Rights 1776-2026” dated coins capture the essence of the 250th anniversary?

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  • winestevenwinesteven Posts: 4,471 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 28, 2024 5:51AM

    @PhillyJoe said:
    Independence did involve more than the Liberty Bell, but we are celebrating the 250th adoption and signing of the Declaration of Independence which is one event, in one place, on one day, by one group of people. It’s been a Federal holiday since 1870. Can’t we celebrate it without muddying the waters? Does “Women’s Suffrage 1776-2026” or “Civil Rights 1776-2026” dated coins capture the essence of the 250th anniversary?

    In my opinion, No. How about Paul Revere? Are there so few themes about our Independence in 1776 that we have to really stretch it to these other completely non-related themes that you seem to be pushing? As noted, those themes not related to our Independence are good, but they should then be used on OTHER coins, not 1776 coins!!!!

    Steve

    A day without fine wine and working on your coin collection is like a day without sunshine!!!

    My collecting “Pride & Joy” is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set:
    https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/design-type-sets/complete-dansco-7070-modified-type-set-1796-date/publishedset/213996
  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 19,927 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @winesteven said:
    ... if it has to be explained, it’s a failure! ...

    And if it might have to be explained when it's a large drawing, it will definitely have to be explained when it's reduced to the size of a coin and made shiny. The Constitution quarter reverse will look like a crown when coined. Fonts and legends are a mess in general, with multiple different familiar computer fonts being used and legends being too wordy.

    I suppose I'm not really surprised at the absolute failure of the committee to stick with recognizing the 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence, rather choosing to insert anachronistic events and people irrelevant to the crafting and signing of the document.

  • jacrispiesjacrispies Posts: 891 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Pnies20 said:
    Can we just do away with coins at this point? Give me Chuck E. Cheese tokens or something.

    Drummer boy on all denominations!!!!!!

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  • mlittlemlittle Posts: 138 ✭✭✭

    The dime figures, front and back, should be on the half dollar.

  • privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,363 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @hummingbird_coins said:
    The semiquincentennial program "strikes" me as a good opportunity to transition to different long-term designs for cent through half dollar. Are there any plans for this?

    That would be awesome.

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  • privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,363 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @KellenCoin said:

    The quarter and half dollar will move to the Youth Sports reverses for the next few years.

    So they are going to ruin half dollars as they have quarters? :s

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