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1976 George Brett PSA-9 (960xxxxx)…

mintonlyplsmintonlypls Posts: 2,069 ✭✭✭✭✭

I was blown out of the water at $6666…it sold for $9800+. I believe that is a record price.

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  • balco758balco758 Posts: 1,408 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not surprised.

  • Yankees70Yankees70 Posts: 480 ✭✭✭

    I predicted 10K and was close. If I had retired this year instead of in 2026 the card would be mine right now. I would have hammered the card at 15k and probably would have won it for under 11K.

  • mintonlyplsmintonlypls Posts: 2,069 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 21, 2024 3:14AM

    I would have given up too much in my 98-card collection to win it…and therefore gracefully bowed out of bidding.

    mint_only_pls
  • olb31olb31 Posts: 3,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The OPC is still out there. $13,000 or best offer. It should be worth every bit as much as the Topps. There is one 7 listed on ebay and one 9. There are 50 topps 7's and 15 topps 8's.

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  • backbidderbackbidder Posts: 235 ✭✭✭

    My screen name says it all

  • KendallCatKendallCat Posts: 3,000 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hard card to find in high grade for sure, but I would be happy with an 8 and use the extra funds to buy other cards.

  • balco758balco758 Posts: 1,408 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 22, 2024 1:49AM

    I'm also not sure that's a 9 if not for it being a 4SC sub....

  • gemintgemint Posts: 6,105 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I was also an underbidder. It was a solid 9 and had a legit run around that serial number. I always check what the rest of the sub looks like to hunt for red flags. It looks like this card came from a set break that had a mix of cards from PSA 7 to 9.

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,345 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I cannot imagine a 76 Brett in 9 going for that amount. I would add both a 75 mini and reg in psa 9 before I paid that kind of price for a 76.

    thats just me though. I value rookies much higher than most i guess.

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • olb31olb31 Posts: 3,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @balco758 said:
    I'm also not sure that's a 9 if not for it being a 4SC sub....

    Interesting.

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  • 80sOPC80sOPC Posts: 1,370 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Again, just because it is sold by 4sc doesn’t mean they subbed it. They are one of the largest card consignment businesses on eBay today, they evolved their model over the last few years.

  • Yankees70Yankees70 Posts: 480 ✭✭✭

    @olb31 said:

    @balco758 said:
    I'm also not sure that's a 9 if not for it being a 4SC sub....

    Interesting.

    4SC submitted this card and received a 9. They also recently received the first PSA 10 for the 79 Eckersley that also sold for around 10K.

  • Yankees70Yankees70 Posts: 480 ✭✭✭

    @80sOPC said:
    Again, just because it is sold by 4sc doesn’t mean they subbed it. They are one of the largest card consignment businesses on eBay today, they evolved their model over the last few years.

    They did sub it. I sent them an email and they said they did.

  • mintonlyplsmintonlypls Posts: 2,069 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The card does look 9-worthy.

    mint_only_pls
  • 80sOPC80sOPC Posts: 1,370 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Fair enough, my point stands, and I agree with others it looks like a 10.

    @Yankees70 said:

    @80sOPC said:
    Again, just because it is sold by 4sc doesn’t mean they subbed it. They are one of the largest card consignment businesses on eBay today, they evolved their model over the last few years.

    They did sub it. I sent them an email and they said they did.

  • Which others? It looks quite accurately graded to me.

    Enjoy the go.

  • AhmanfanAhmanfan Posts: 4,393 ✭✭✭✭

    Nice card but I’m with Craig. I get it’s a tough card but it’s a 1976 topps card.. sheesh lot of coin

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  • olb31olb31 Posts: 3,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If I was nitpicking the brett, looks like some small pd to the left of his head, bottom right corner isn't completely sharp, but nice - centering is nice but a little slanted top to bottom. It's certainly a very nice edition of the card. Not sure a 9 can have PD, but if it can then this one is darn close. If not then it should be an 8.5.

    For the rest us, I doubt we get a 9. Prolly an 8. Just my opinion. PSA doesn't hand out 1/2 grades very often.

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  • mintonlyplsmintonlypls Posts: 2,069 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 23, 2024 11:01AM

    There is another 1976 Brett PSA-9 (92xxxxxx) recently graded coming up in a Winter Heritage Auction that is not centered nearly as dead centered as this 960xxxxx. I’m surprised that this second one is a 9.

    mint_only_pls
  • balco758balco758 Posts: 1,408 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 23, 2024 6:55AM

    For comparison, here is my 8.5. I think it's still 1 of 2. Cost me $1500 some years ago.

    The recently sold 9 is below.


  • @olb31 said:
    If I was nitpicking the brett...

    If? Are. You are nitpicking. The new owner of this card apparently didn't. Yes, it's a very expensive label.

    Enjoy the go.

  • ElMagoStrikeZoneElMagoStrikeZone Posts: 546 ✭✭✭
    edited October 23, 2024 7:02AM

    Surprised no one has yet questioned registration on the 9. It's blurry. Thanks balco, good comparison.

    Enjoy the go.

  • mintonlyplsmintonlypls Posts: 2,069 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes…registration is not dead-on.

    mint_only_pls
  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,345 ✭✭✭✭✭

    conditional rarities scare me as a buyer. it does not take much for a pop 1 or 2 to turn into a 4 or 5 and much of that value to erode away. I remember a decade or decade and a half ago when guys were opening box after box of 70's baseball looking to complete graded sets and how much some of the tough commons were selling for in PSA 10. I felt the same way then.

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,703 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @balco758 said:
    For comparison, here is my 8.5. I think it's still 1 of 2. Cost me $1500 some years ago.

    The recently sold 9 is below.


    Yours may have had a shot at a 9 if not for the PD on bottom part of the card. I suspect that's why it wasn't given a 9 at the time.



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  • 19541954 Posts: 2,901 ✭✭✭

    Brett is a very difficult 8 much less higher. With print defects, centering, focus and many times factory short I don't see many more coming out. I have a PSA 8 in my set and there are flaws that I don't like about it as well. The 8.5 is sweet but the print defects are there. The psa 9 is gorgeous but out of focus. There have been some outstanding PSA 8's that I have seen where the only defect was a touched corner. I should have bought them.

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  • brad31brad31 Posts: 2,822 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like the 9 better due to the lack of black spots. Both cards are unbelievable for this card which is as tough as they come.

  • olb31olb31 Posts: 3,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @brad31 said:
    I like the 9 better due to the lack of black spots. Both cards are unbelievable for this card which is as tough as they come.

    Which may be why this one got a 9, by long-term observation of the particular variety.

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  • balco758balco758 Posts: 1,408 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Any guesses what my 8.5 might sell for?

  • 80sOPC80sOPC Posts: 1,370 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sorry meant to say 9!

    @80sOPC said:
    Fair enough, my point stands, and I agree with others it looks like a 10.

    @Yankees70 said:

    @80sOPC said:
    Again, just because it is sold by 4sc doesn’t mean they subbed it. They are one of the largest card consignment businesses on eBay today, they evolved their model over the last few years.

    They did sub it. I sent them an email and they said they did.

  • 80sOPC80sOPC Posts: 1,370 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No concerns these days, pops are controlled.

    @craig44 said:
    conditional rarities scare me as a buyer. it does not take much for a pop 1 or 2 to turn into a 4 or 5 and much of that value to erode away. I remember a decade or decade and a half ago when guys were opening box after box of 70's baseball looking to complete graded sets and how much some of the tough commons were selling for in PSA 10. I felt the same way then.

  • mintonlyplsmintonlypls Posts: 2,069 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here is the Heritage Auctions '76 Brett:

    mint_only_pls
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,703 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @mintonlypls said:
    Here is the Heritage Auctions '76 Brett:

    Not digging the centering on that one, especially for a 9...I'd prefer a better centered 8.



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  • brad31brad31 Posts: 2,822 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My guess would be $2500 on the 8.5 but who knows?

  • Yankees70Yankees70 Posts: 480 ✭✭✭

    @mintonlypls said:
    Here is the Heritage Auctions '76 Brett:

    Not close to a 9 but I'm sure it will sell for at least 8K.

  • 80sOPC80sOPC Posts: 1,370 ✭✭✭✭✭

    New grade as well, unreal that gets a 9.

  • olb31olb31 Posts: 3,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @balco758 said:
    Any guesses what my 8.5 might sell for?

    PSa 8's are in the $450 range. I think the $2,500 guess is decent, but I would err on the side of caution and go with $1800. 4 times the psa 8

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  • mcastaldimcastaldi Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭

    There will never be a shortage of people willing to pay a premium for the number on the holder without regard for what the card actually looks like.

    So full of action, my name should be a verb.
  • DM23HOFDM23HOF Posts: 2,120 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 27, 2024 6:49PM

    Love the 1976 Brett. But spending a ton on a 9 that is not centered is silly to me when I can buy a gorgeous 7/8 for so much less. Those 9s pictured are pure sticker-buys or registry buys— a grade that would change if subbed on another day or landed before another grader. Put an off centered 9 beside a better centered, super strong 7 or 8 in a wall case, step back a few feet, look at them side by side, and the 9 will not look $100 better let alone thousands better. I'll put the cash difference toward objective/true rarity over subjective/condition rarity.

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,345 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DM23HOF said:
    Love the 1976 Brett. But spending a ton on a 9 that is not centered is silly to me when I can buy a gorgeous 7/8 for so much less. Those 9s pictured are pure sticker-buys or registry buys— a grade that would change if subbed on another day or landed before another grader. Put an off centered 9 beside a better centered, super strong 7 or 8 in a wall case, step back a few feet, look at them side by side, and the 9 will not look $100 better let alone thousands better. I'll put the cash difference toward objective/true rarity over subjective/condition rarity.

    this right here. I have never understood the draw towards conditional rarities. I am with you, give me a true rarity any time.

    In fact, I like your term, subjective rarity. do you mind if i steal it? because it describes cards like these perfectly

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • brad31brad31 Posts: 2,822 ✭✭✭✭✭

    To me the ‘76 Brett and the ‘78 Molitor/Trammel are conditional rarities I totally understand. It is hard to get an 8 with centering and without print defects on these two cards. There are 9s with print defects on both so I cannot see paying for just the grade. But to pay up for a card with little or no print defects in any grade makes sense to me on these. I have neither (well I have them in my sets but they are meh) as there are other cards I would rather pay that price for. But I really understand it on these cards.

  • mcastaldimcastaldi Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭

    Considering PSA & SGC’s harsher grading, it’s why I’m generally quite content to pick up 7s with high eye appeal that meet the published standards for 8s - or 9s.

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  • CakesCakes Posts: 3,640 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @mcastaldi said:
    Considering PSA & SGC’s harsher grading, it’s why I’m generally quite content to pick up 7s with high eye appeal that meet the published standards for 8s - or 9s.

    Agreed, when I see a new labelled PSA graded card they look amazing compared to their new grades. I have seen freshly graded PSA 5's that looks like PSA 8's from the past.

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  • mcastaldimcastaldi Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭

    @sayheywyo said:

    Or.... 5 bucks, not worth grading but pretty well centered and no print marks, lol...

    I’m building raw sets from 74-84. Some will be NM or better. Others are NM/MT or better. (Evaluated against PSA’s published standards). A Brett that looks like that is a card I’d be happy to have in my NM 1976 set.

    The part of coming back to the hobby after 15+ years away that’s most frustrating to me is it’s abundantly clear to me that PSA’s published standards for each grade became meaningless to them somewhere along the way. When I was submitting in early 2000s, sure there were instances of overgraded cards. But in the overwhelming majority of cases, the grade assigned aligned with the published standard. Sadly, those days are long gone.

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  • PaulMaulPaulMaul Posts: 4,877 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @craig44 said:

    this right here. I have never understood the draw towards conditional rarities. I am with you, give me a true rarity any time.

    In fact, I like your term, subjective rarity. do you mind if i steal it? because it describes cards like these perfectly

    Some of us are only interested in sets without any truly rare cards. If you only collect the 1976 set and like high grade cards, condition rarities are a big deal.

  • Yankees70Yankees70 Posts: 480 ✭✭✭

    @PaulMaul said:

    @craig44 said:

    this right here. I have never understood the draw towards conditional rarities. I am with you, give me a true rarity any time.

    In fact, I like your term, subjective rarity. do you mind if i steal it? because it describes cards like these perfectly

    Some of us are only interested in sets without any truly rare cards. If you only collect the 1976 set and like high grade cards, condition rarities are a big deal.

    Agree and to add try completing a high grade centered raw set for 1979 Topps baseball. Horrendous centering issues for ample cards. A very tough set. I can think of at least 7 hall of famers that have less than 100 PSA 9's.

  • @Yankees70 said:

    @PaulMaul said:

    @craig44 said:

    this right here. I have never understood the draw towards conditional rarities. I am with you, give me a true rarity any time.

    In fact, I like your term, subjective rarity. do you mind if i steal it? because it describes cards like these perfectly

    Some of us are only interested in sets without any truly rare cards. If you only collect the 1976 set and like high grade cards, condition rarities are a big deal.

    Agree and to add try completing a high grade centered raw set for 1979 Topps baseball. Horrendous centering issues for ample cards. A very tough set. I can think of at least 7 hall of famers that have less than 100 PSA 9's.

    I tried and sent a couple 79's from a few pack breaks here. That didn't go well.

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