Interesting (Good!) - DLRC Shipping Coins (Some??) Wrapped in Aluminum Foil
A short time ago, a couple of posts were made regarding an apparent uptick in the theft of coins stolen while in shipping transit. At least one person commented that it's possible that "smart" crooks are using devices to read the RFC emissions embedded in the more recent PCGS slabs. As such, it was suggested to wrap the contents in aluminum foil, to "foil" the crooks (pun intended).
I've done that with my last three shipments. The cost is negligible, and who knows? Maybe it will reduce the chances of theft? I believe we all agree the insurance proceeds received from having coins stolen don't even come close to the heartache of having coins stolen!
I was pleasantly surprised when I received delivery from DLRC and the inside box was wrapped in aluminum foil. I don't know if they're doing this for all shipments, or only those above a certain value?
Just passing this on, and reminding others of this simple inexpensive technique that MIGHT help a little bit!
Steve
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https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/design-type-sets/complete-dansco-7070-modified-type-set-1796-date/publishedset/213996
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They’ve been doing it for awhile, as I commented about it back in February in this thread. I was surprised as well.
I’m uncertain as to when they decide to use foil or not, as I have received more recent DLRC shipments without it.
Someone in another thread posited that the postal thieves will start figuring out that aluminum foil = high value, assuming they’d have some way to detect it.
I hate to have to think about these what-ifs, but that’s the world we live in.
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I was that someone, based on your last sentence. It’s almost impossible to stay ahead of postal thieves these days, but we have to try. Key word in Steve’s post is MIGHT!
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At least in DC there has been an uptick is postal worker thefts. Maybe they have information that they were using the X-ray machines to find coins and jewelry.
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Then all they need to do is throw in a low value dime or modern quarter in the newer holder - outside the foil - so it scans something uninteresting.
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I fail to understand how immigration policy affects the rate of package theft by postal employees.
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You did. "Catch and release" explicitly refers to immigration policy, not general criminal detention policies.
But, even if you misunderstand and are using the term incorrectly, the only thing I assumed is that you think it's ok to make a blatant political statement despite knowing better.
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No it doesn't............
They have been using that term for people that steal for a long time now.
YOU seem to want to attach it to immigation only
You are the one who is misunderstanding.
You have a hibit of twisting things around to suite your needs, you do it a lot and I'm sick of it.
You can answer but you have been added to my IGNORE LIST.
I don't care to hear what ever you have to say
Good Bye
Mike
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Lol, yeah, "my needs". I guess I twisted your words by quoting them exactly in context and then commenting on them. How unfair of me.
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I never said anything political!
You once again twisted it the way YOU want to view it.
When I said it will hopefully change in a few months COULD MEAN anything, maybe I plan on moving out of the country, or maybe I will Die OR maybe ...................
You, once again, ASSUMED it was political, shame on you to only think one way.
Now
Good bye
Mike
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If it's any consolation I understood what you were getting at. Unfortunately the reality is that we likely don't have the resources to detain and prosecute every common criminal.
To be fair here, the term has been applied to criminals for as long as I can remember, way before illegal immigration became a "thing".
https://www.npr.org/2016/01/22/463210910/california-cops-frustrated-with-catch-and-release-crime-fighting
Nothing against either of you guys, as I like you both.
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As we were saying, creating a farraday barrier is worth the effort, foil, mylar. I'm gonna use it cause it's something proactive.
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Does mylar block it?
Mike
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Probably the crooks are on to all methods designed to foil them. Could also order other metal foils, copper, lead, etc..
Kind of wish the PCGS holders didn't have a chip.
Maybe an on off switch..............
Mike
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General consensus is aluminum foil is more effective than Mylar although farraday material is often three layers, foil copper and film
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This threads got it all
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Of course they do. Here’s a peek inside the shipping room.
Pretty funny
I received rattlers wrapped in foil. Still gives me a chuckle.
Our host should also consider not using a twenty-coin box for returning coins. Anyone with knowledge of our hobby knows what that shape and rattling sound from inside contains. No need to read the package with an electronic device.
Wouldn't an x-ray image of the package show a coin? Does the usps x-ray packages.
A strip of cheap foam would stop that.
Someone needs to invent a cheap, miniaturized Tile tracker that can be embedded in slabs or hidden in packages.
Tile costs about $25 each. I use it all of the time when I know the recipient will return it with my coins (like with CAC/CACG, my coin photographer, Rick Snow, etc.). I tried it once with PCGS, but did not get it back.
Steve
My collecting “Pride & Joy” is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set:
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/design-type-sets/complete-dansco-7070-modified-type-set-1796-date/publishedset/213996
Yeah, maybe they can use empty pizza boxes.