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Interesting (Good!) - DLRC Shipping Coins (Some??) Wrapped in Aluminum Foil

winestevenwinesteven Posts: 4,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited October 21, 2024 8:55AM in U.S. Coin Forum

A short time ago, a couple of posts were made regarding an apparent uptick in the theft of coins stolen while in shipping transit. At least one person commented that it's possible that "smart" crooks are using devices to read the RFC emissions embedded in the more recent PCGS slabs. As such, it was suggested to wrap the contents in aluminum foil, to "foil" the crooks (pun intended).

I've done that with my last three shipments. The cost is negligible, and who knows? Maybe it will reduce the chances of theft? I believe we all agree the insurance proceeds received from having coins stolen don't even come close to the heartache of having coins stolen!

I was pleasantly surprised when I received delivery from DLRC and the inside box was wrapped in aluminum foil. I don't know if they're doing this for all shipments, or only those above a certain value?

Just passing this on, and reminding others of this simple inexpensive technique that MIGHT help a little bit!

Steve

A day without fine wine and working on your coin collection is like a day without sunshine!!!

My collecting “Pride & Joy” is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set:
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/design-type-sets/complete-dansco-7070-modified-type-set-1796-date/publishedset/213996

Comments

  • CopperindianCopperindian Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @P0CKETCHANGE said:
    They’ve been doing it for awhile, as I commented about it back in February in this thread. I was surprised as well.

    I’m uncertain as to when they decide to use foil or not, as I have received more recent DLRC shipments without it.

    Someone in another thread posited that the postal thieves will start figuring out that aluminum foil = high value, assuming they’d have some way to detect it.

    I hate to have to think about these what-ifs, but that’s the world we live in.

    I was that someone, based on your last sentence. It’s almost impossible to stay ahead of postal thieves these days, but we have to try. Key word in Steve’s post is MIGHT!

    “The thrill of the hunt never gets old”

    PCGS Registry: Screaming Eagles
    Copperindian

    Retired sets: Soaring Eagles
    Copperindian

  • CryptoCrypto Posts: 3,673 ✭✭✭✭✭

    At least in DC there has been an uptick is postal worker thefts. Maybe they have information that they were using the X-ray machines to find coins and jewelry.

  • BStrauss3BStrauss3 Posts: 3,400 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @P0CKETCHANGE said:
    Someone in another thread posited that the postal thieves will start figuring out that aluminum foil = high value, assuming they’d have some way to detect it.

    Then all they need to do is throw in a low value dime or modern quarter in the newer holder - outside the foil - so it scans something uninteresting.

    -----Burton
    ANA 50 year/Life Member (now "Emeritus")
  • lermishlermish Posts: 2,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @alaura22 said:
    What has this world come too.
    The things we have to do to protect our property as normal abiding citizens of the best country in the world!
    Other countries are looking at us like fools for what we have let happen here.
    Catch and release doesn't work! And until that changes we will have to put up with it, hopefully that will all change in the next few months.
    JMO

    I fail to understand how immigration policy affects the rate of package theft by postal employees.

  • lermishlermish Posts: 2,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @alaura22 said:

    @lermish said:

    @alaura22 said:
    What has this world come too.
    The things we have to do to protect our property as normal abiding citizens of the best country in the world!
    Other countries are looking at us like fools for what we have let happen here.
    Catch and release doesn't work! And until that changes we will have to put up with it, hopefully that will all change in the next few months.
    JMO

    I fail to understand how immigration policy affects the rate of package theft by postal employees.

    I didn't say anything about the immigration policy............
    Where did you you get that from?
    Did you "assume" that's what I was talking about?
    Catch and release applies to all that steal and then are released

    You did. "Catch and release" explicitly refers to immigration policy, not general criminal detention policies.

    But, even if you misunderstand and are using the term incorrectly, the only thing I assumed is that you think it's ok to make a blatant political statement despite knowing better.

  • alaura22alaura22 Posts: 3,157 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lermish said:

    @alaura22 said:

    @lermish said:

    @alaura22 said:
    What has this world come too.
    The things we have to do to protect our property as normal abiding citizens of the best country in the world!
    Other countries are looking at us like fools for what we have let happen here.
    Catch and release doesn't work! And until that changes we will have to put up with it, hopefully that will all change in the next few months.
    JMO

    I fail to understand how immigration policy affects the rate of package theft by postal employees.

    I didn't say anything about the immigration policy............
    Where did you you get that from?
    Did you "assume" that's what I was talking about?
    Catch and release applies to all that steal and then are released

    You did. "Catch and release" explicitly refers to immigration policy, not general criminal detention policies.

    But, even if you misunderstand and are using the term incorrectly, the only thing I assumed is that you think it's ok to make a blatant political statement despite knowing better.

    No it doesn't............
    They have been using that term for people that steal for a long time now.
    YOU seem to want to attach it to immigation only
    You are the one who is misunderstanding.
    You have a hibit of twisting things around to suite your needs, you do it a lot and I'm sick of it.
    You can answer but you have been added to my IGNORE LIST.
    I don't care to hear what ever you have to say
    Good Bye

  • lermishlermish Posts: 2,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @alaura22 said:

    @lermish said:

    @alaura22 said:

    @lermish said:

    @alaura22 said:
    What has this world come too.
    The things we have to do to protect our property as normal abiding citizens of the best country in the world!
    Other countries are looking at us like fools for what we have let happen here.
    Catch and release doesn't work! And until that changes we will have to put up with it, hopefully that will all change in the next few months.
    JMO

    I fail to understand how immigration policy affects the rate of package theft by postal employees.

    I didn't say anything about the immigration policy............
    Where did you you get that from?
    Did you "assume" that's what I was talking about?
    Catch and release applies to all that steal and then are released

    You did. "Catch and release" explicitly refers to immigration policy, not general criminal detention policies.

    But, even if you misunderstand and are using the term incorrectly, the only thing I assumed is that you think it's ok to make a blatant political statement despite knowing better.

    No it doesn't............
    They have been using that term for people that steal for a long time now.
    YOU seem to want to attach it to immigation only
    You are the one who is misunderstanding.
    You have a hibit of twisting things around to suite your needs, you do it a lot and I'm sick of it.
    You can answer but you have been added to my IGNORE LIST.
    I don't care to hear what ever you have to say
    Good Bye

    Lol, yeah, "my needs". I guess I twisted your words by quoting them exactly in context and then commenting on them. How unfair of me.

  • alaura22alaura22 Posts: 3,157 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I never said anything political!
    You once again twisted it the way YOU want to view it.
    When I said it will hopefully change in a few months COULD MEAN anything, maybe I plan on moving out of the country, or maybe I will Die OR maybe ...................
    You, once again, ASSUMED it was political, shame on you to only think one way.
    Now
    Good bye

  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,075 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @alaura22 said:
    What has this world come too.
    The things we have to do to protect our property as normal abiding citizens of the best country in the world!
    Other countries are looking at us like fools for what we have let happen here.
    Catch and release doesn't work! And until that changes we will have to put up with it, hopefully that will all change in the next few months.
    JMO

    If it's any consolation I understood what you were getting at. Unfortunately the reality is that we likely don't have the resources to detain and prosecute every common criminal.

    theknowitalltroll;
  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 8,943 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As we were saying, creating a farraday barrier is worth the effort, foil, mylar. I'm gonna use it cause it's something proactive.

    BST: endeavor1967, synchr, kliao, Outhaul, Donttellthewife, U1Chicago, ajaan, mCarney1173, SurfinHi, MWallace, Sandman70gt, mustanggt, Pittstate03, Lazybones, Walkerguy21D, coinandcurrency242 , thebigeng, Collectorcoins, JimTyler, USMarine6, Elkevvo, Coll3ctor, Yorkshireman, CUKevin, ranshdow, CoinHunter4, bennybravo, Centsearcher, braddick, Windycity, ZoidMeister, mirabela, JJM, RichURich, Bullsitter, jmski52, LukeMarshall, coinsarefun, MichaelDixon, NickPatton, ProfLiz, Twobitcollector,Jesbroken oih82w8

  • alaura22alaura22 Posts: 3,157 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Namvet69 said:
    As we were saying, creating a farraday barrier is worth the effort, foil, mylar. I'm gonna use it cause it's something proactive.

    Does mylar block it?

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 8,495 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Probably the crooks are on to all methods designed to foil them. Could also order other metal foils, copper, lead, etc..

  • DocBenjaminDocBenjamin Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @logger7 said:
    Probably the crooks are on to all methods designed to foil them. Could also order other metal foils, copper, lead, etc..

    Kind of wish the PCGS holders didn't have a chip.

  • alaura22alaura22 Posts: 3,157 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Maybe an on off switch..............

  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 8,943 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @alaura22 said:

    @Namvet69 said:
    As we were saying, creating a farraday barrier is worth the effort, foil, mylar. I'm gonna use it cause it's something proactive.

    Does mylar block it?

    General consensus is aluminum foil is more effective than Mylar although farraday material is often three layers, foil copper and film

    BST: endeavor1967, synchr, kliao, Outhaul, Donttellthewife, U1Chicago, ajaan, mCarney1173, SurfinHi, MWallace, Sandman70gt, mustanggt, Pittstate03, Lazybones, Walkerguy21D, coinandcurrency242 , thebigeng, Collectorcoins, JimTyler, USMarine6, Elkevvo, Coll3ctor, Yorkshireman, CUKevin, ranshdow, CoinHunter4, bennybravo, Centsearcher, braddick, Windycity, ZoidMeister, mirabela, JJM, RichURich, Bullsitter, jmski52, LukeMarshall, coinsarefun, MichaelDixon, NickPatton, ProfLiz, Twobitcollector,Jesbroken oih82w8

  • Pnies20Pnies20 Posts: 2,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This threads got it all

    BHNC #248 … 130 and counting.

  • JimTylerJimTyler Posts: 3,347 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Of course they do. Here’s a peek inside the shipping room.

  • johnny010johnny010 Posts: 1,449 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Pretty funny
    I received rattlers wrapped in foil. Still gives me a chuckle.

  • SaamSaam Posts: 536 ✭✭✭
    edited October 21, 2024 6:43AM

    Our host should also consider not using a twenty-coin box for returning coins. Anyone with knowledge of our hobby knows what that shape and rattling sound from inside contains. No need to read the package with an electronic device.

  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,075 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @johnny010 said:
    Pretty funny
    I received rattlers wrapped in foil. Still gives me a chuckle.

    Wouldn't an x-ray image of the package show a coin? Does the usps x-ray packages.

    theknowitalltroll;
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,075 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Saam said:
    Our host should also consider not using a twenty-coin box for return coins. Anyone with knowledge of our hobby knows what that shape and rattling sound from inside contains. No need to read the package with an electronic device.

    A strip of cheap foam would stop that.

    theknowitalltroll;
  • coastaljerseyguycoastaljerseyguy Posts: 1,320 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Someone needs to invent a cheap, miniaturized Tile tracker that can be embedded in slabs or hidden in packages.

  • winestevenwinesteven Posts: 4,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coastaljerseyguy said:
    Someone needs to invent a cheap, miniaturized Tile tracker that can be embedded in slabs or hidden in packages.

    Tile costs about $25 each. I use it all of the time when I know the recipient will return it with my coins (like with CAC/CACG, my coin photographer, Rick Snow, etc.). I tried it once with PCGS, but did not get it back.

    Steve

    A day without fine wine and working on your coin collection is like a day without sunshine!!!

    My collecting “Pride & Joy” is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set:
    https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/design-type-sets/complete-dansco-7070-modified-type-set-1796-date/publishedset/213996
  • DocBenjaminDocBenjamin Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 21, 2024 7:37AM

    @Saam said:
    Our host should also consider not using a twenty-coin box for returning coins. Anyone with knowledge of our hobby knows what that shape and rattling sound from inside contains. No need to read the package with an electronic device.

    Yeah, maybe they can use empty pizza boxes.

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