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Comic Book Grading..........Where Are We PSA?

thedutymon11thedutymon11 Posts: 670 ✭✭✭✭
edited September 28, 2024 8:51AM in Trading Cards & Memorabilia Forum

Morning,

Recently there was a flurry of News relating to PSA getting into Comic Book Grading a couple months back. Their were several Youtube Vids, one introducing the new head of that division. A few about the first batch of Comics Graded as AU. And a lot of Critiques about the Holders being Too Bulky, And then Crickets.

As its Sept and this is supposed to kickoff in 2025, has anybody heard an New news?

Thanks

YeeHaw!

Neil

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  • RonSportscardsRonSportscards Posts: 970 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This might explain the crickets.

    "Beckett has filed a law suit against PSA's head comic booker grader Mark Wilson over violating a NDA."

    "Beckett (aka CBCS) filing a restraining order and injunction against current Comic Book PSA Head Grader Mark Wilson and employee West Stephan. Apparently they are being accused of breaking the NDA and bring grading secrets to PSA including SUBGRADES which apparently CBCS has been working on this year."

  • thedutymon11thedutymon11 Posts: 670 ✭✭✭✭

    Morning,

    Didn't some Bill or Regulation get done recently that made most NDA's Illegal? I thought I remembered something to that affect but maybe it was just a Rumor or only applies moving forward?

    YeeHaw!

    Neil

  • bgrbgr Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @thedutymon11 said:
    Morning,

    Didn't some Bill or Regulation get done recently that made most NDA's Illegal? I thought I remembered something to that affect but maybe it was just a Rumor or only applies moving forward?

    YeeHaw!

    Neil

    It’s complicated here. But what you might be referring to are non competes. NDAs are still enforceable. It will depend on whether he brought intellectual property in the form of ideas processes or techniques from Beckett to PSA and whether they can prove it. Sub grades wouldn’t meet the criteria of novelty. It’s a concept which the public is aware of and may seek to recreate. I would expect PSA has lawyers who reviewed this and determined there was low risk but I bet they’re shocked Beckett filed suit. It’s a bold move by Beckett so they’re either just trying to delay them, are getting bad advice, or there is something of merit in their claim.

  • Hi All!

    This is my first post here.

    I have the same question as the OP (Neil). What is happening with PSA and its entrance into the world of comic book grading? Any news?

    By the way, if you're interested in Steve Borock's response to the lawsuit, it can be found on the CBCS forum using the link below:
    https://forum.cbcscomics.com/topic/21143/page/1/cbcs-vs-psa-lawsuit/

    I'm excited about PSA. To say the very least, I think it would be extremely healthy for the hobby to have some real competition to CGC. :)

    Regards,

    ~Ditch

  • BrickBrick Posts: 4,992 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hi, hello, how are ya?..........welcome........ :)

    Collecting 1960 Topps Baseball in PSA 8
    http://www.unisquare.com/store/brick/

    Ralph

  • Hi Ralph!

    Thank you.

    ~Ditch

  • GrooGroo Posts: 289 ✭✭✭

    Hope to see a Comic Book sub forum here soon.

    Many collectors are very happy to welcome PSA after CGC has damaged 10s of thousands formally high grade books then gaslighted their those affected customers then banned those same parties they fiscally damaged from their forums.

    Here's hoping PSA provides CGC with the reckoning they so richly deserve!

  • @Groo said:
    Hope to see a Comic Book sub forum here soon.

    Me too! I think that would be a great idea.

  • originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,954 ✭✭✭✭

    I wouldn't hold my breath for a comic forum here anytime soon, but you never know.

  • originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,954 ✭✭✭✭

    @Groo said:
    Hope to see a Comic Book sub forum here soon.

    Many collectors are very happy to welcome PSA after CGC has damaged 10s of thousands formally high grade books then gaslighted their those affected customers then banned those same parties they fiscally damaged from their forums.

    Here's hoping PSA provides CGC with the reckoning they so richly deserve!

    Not that you're wrong, per se, but in practice the moderation here is very intolerant of bad talking (any flavor of) ATS, so I wouldn't expect a lot of healthy venting done here to last that long.

  • @originalisbest said:

    @Groo said:
    Hope to see a Comic Book sub forum here soon.

    Many collectors are very happy to welcome PSA after CGC has damaged 10s of thousands formally high grade books then gaslighted their those affected customers then banned those same parties they fiscally damaged from their forums.

    Here's hoping PSA provides CGC with the reckoning they so richly deserve!

    Not that you're wrong, per se, but in practice the moderation here is very intolerant of bad talking (any flavor of) ATS, so I wouldn't expect a lot of healthy venting done here to last that long.

    How is the moderation here wrt data? For example, are we allowed to post pictures of comics damaged by CGC holders?

  • 82FootballWaxMemorys82FootballWaxMemorys Posts: 1,592 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 23, 2024 7:07PM

    PSA permits pics of Card slabs from SGC, BGS, CGC, and many others, seems like that should carry right over to Comics.

    Not mine - for reference purposes only;

    It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972)

  • bgrbgr Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I fully support getting rid of Fahrenheit.

  • 82FootballWaxMemorys82FootballWaxMemorys Posts: 1,592 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 23, 2024 7:19PM

    redacted

    It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972)

  • originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,954 ✭✭✭✭

    @Ditch_Fahrenheit said:

    @originalisbest said:

    @Groo said:
    Hope to see a Comic Book sub forum here soon.

    Many collectors are very happy to welcome PSA after CGC has damaged 10s of thousands formally high grade books then gaslighted their those affected customers then banned those same parties they fiscally damaged from their forums.

    Here's hoping PSA provides CGC with the reckoning they so richly deserve!

    Not that you're wrong, per se, but in practice the moderation here is very intolerant of bad talking (any flavor of) ATS, so I wouldn't expect a lot of healthy venting done here to last that long.

    How is the moderation here wrt data? For example, are we allowed to post pictures of comics damaged by CGC holders?

    I guess trial and error and find out -- generally they frown upon showcasing competitors' failures or successes.

  • 82FootballWaxMemorys82FootballWaxMemorys Posts: 1,592 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @originalisbest said:

    @Ditch_Fahrenheit said:

    @originalisbest said:

    @Groo said:
    Hope to see a Comic Book sub forum here soon.

    Many collectors are very happy to welcome PSA after CGC has damaged 10s of thousands formally high grade books then gaslighted their those affected customers then banned those same parties they fiscally damaged from their forums.

    Here's hoping PSA provides CGC with the reckoning they so richly deserve!

    Not that you're wrong, per se, but in practice the moderation here is very intolerant of bad talking (any flavor of) ATS, so I wouldn't expect a lot of healthy venting done here to last that long.

    How is the moderation here wrt data? For example, are we allowed to post pictures of comics damaged by CGC holders?

    I guess trial and error and find out -- generally they frown upon showcasing competitors' failures or successes.

    The best thing one can do to get a message across is; after PSA is up and running, 100% completely stop submitting and purchasing comics slabbed by other factions!

    It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972)

  • Also interested as more information becomes available.

    "Set the gearshift for the high gear of your soul. You've got to run like an antelope out of control."

    • Phish
  • @Buzzetta said:
    Also interested as more information becomes available.

    Same, following very closely. I've got some books that I don't feel comfortable sending to CGC anymore.

  • thedutymon11thedutymon11 Posts: 670 ✭✭✭✭

    Hey PSA,

    Just thought I'd drop a Note/Question, WTF is happening with PSA getting into Comics? Something we should all know? Plan on hold? You know you guys have been playing games on the who's', why's, and how's of Card Grading for years. Now are we due for the same BS with Comics?

    Some Legal situations!

    Really?

    YeeHah!

    Neil

  • GrooGroo Posts: 289 ✭✭✭

    @thedutymon11 said:
    Hey PSA,

    Just thought I'd drop a Note/Question, WTF is happening with PSA getting into Comics? Something we should all know? Plan on hold? You know you guys have been playing games on the who's', why's, and how's of Card Grading for years. Now are we due for the same BS with Comics?

    Some Legal situations!

    Really?

    YeeHah!

    Neil

    QUE?

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