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Peru: Is this rust silver coin?

TheGoonies1985TheGoonies1985 Posts: 5,435 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited September 23, 2024 6:16PM in World & Ancient Coins Forum

I know there is some copper used but this seems different to me. I have seen many silver coins but nothing like this.

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  • TheGoonies1985TheGoonies1985 Posts: 5,435 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 23, 2024 6:15PM

    How would one clean this up? Is it even possible to do so? The coin would only grade authentic anyways so any ideas that may work?

  • SimonWSimonW Posts: 870 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 23, 2024 11:10PM

    It's probably been in an ocean, silver and saltwater can produce silver oxide, which is a type of oxidation. Rust is also a type of oxidation, but a term used exclusively for iron bearing material.

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  • SimonWSimonW Posts: 870 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The most effective removal technique is probably electro-chemical bath.

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  • TheGoonies1985TheGoonies1985 Posts: 5,435 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 23, 2024 6:52PM

    @SimonW said:
    The most effective removal technique is probably electro-chemical bath.

    Were could I get that done? Jewellery store?

  • SimonWSimonW Posts: 870 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You’d probably have to set up your own. The idea is not much different from electroplating, you’re soaking it in a solution and adding a mild electric current.

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  • ELuisELuis Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 24, 2024 8:02AM

    Maybe with a Mickey Mouse approach of a bed of aluminum foil + hot water +  a bit of baking soda.

    Make a rectangular container with the aluminum foil - drop the water and baking soda - then place your coin.

    Do not know but with any method you end up using if those oxidation marks end up being removed it might leave the surfaces worse - The second choice leaves it as is.

  • SimonWSimonW Posts: 870 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yeah, the hard surfaces of the coin are almost certainly pitted.

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  • TypekatTypekat Posts: 369 ✭✭✭✭

    If it’s ambient rust ( think of a coin in a steel box that gets wet, and rusty water dries on the coin)
    there is a pink jel (used to be called Rustoleum) that removes rust, available at your local hardware store.

    In a small glass jar, Completely immerse the coin in the jel and leave it for 24 hours. Usually the rust will then rinse off, or lift off with a toothpick.

    That said, I don’t think it looks all that bad for its age. if the other side’s no worse, I wouldn’t touch it.

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  • TheGoonies1985TheGoonies1985 Posts: 5,435 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 24, 2024 10:32AM

    Paid 25$ for the coin just a variety I need. Maybe will try to take it off will see once it arrives in hand. It is scarce so there are others out there may just wait till I find better to replace it.

  • TheGoonies1985TheGoonies1985 Posts: 5,435 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks guys!!!

  • TheGoonies1985TheGoonies1985 Posts: 5,435 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Typekat said:
    If it’s ambient rust ( think of a coin in a steel box that gets wet, and rusty water dries on the coin)
    there is a pink jel (used to be called Rustoleum) that removes rust, available at your local hardware store.

    In a small glass jar, Completely immerse the coin in the jel and leave it for 24 hours. Usually the rust will then rinse off, or lift off with a toothpick.

    That said, I don’t think it looks all that bad for its age. if the other side’s no worse, I wouldn’t touch it.

    What would you use to rinse the coin after with...water?

  • TheGoonies1985TheGoonies1985 Posts: 5,435 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ELuis said:
    Maybe with a Mickey Mouse approach of a bed of aluminum foil + hot water +  a bit of baking soda.

    Make a rectangular container with the aluminum foil - drop the water and baking soda - then place your coin.

    Do not know but with any method you end up using if those oxidation marks end up being removed it might leave the surfaces worse - The second choice leaves it as is.

    Will try this first since I have what is needed to do so.

  • TheGoonies1985TheGoonies1985 Posts: 5,435 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 24, 2024 10:41AM

    I found this (maybe some here are interested):

    https://www.coincommunity.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=367656

  • SimonWSimonW Posts: 870 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 24, 2024 10:49AM

    Hopefully it’s just dried on encrustations! Woulds’t that be nice?!
    I have my doubts, but hopefully that’s true.

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  • TheGoonies1985TheGoonies1985 Posts: 5,435 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SimonW said:
    Hopefully it’s just died on encrustations! Wouldn’t that be nice?!

    As you know SimonW this date is not impossible to find another will show up till then this will have to do I already have the date this is simply a variety I need since I colelct by date and also by varieties.

  • TypekatTypekat Posts: 369 ✭✭✭✭

    Water.

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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,529 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 25, 2024 9:52AM

    Personally, I do not find the deposits to be all that objectionable in this case. I’d rather have a coin that looked like that than an obviously cleaned one.

    Electrolysis would probably remove the deposits, but afterward (as with any kind of cleaning), you’d be left with no patina at all. And original patina is better because it gives the design some visual contrast.


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