1967 Topps Pin-Ups. PSA 4 ?

RonSportscards

One corner is missing.
And even if the corner was not ripped off, should it be a PSA 4 ?
I know it's the back, but the discoloration is more than slight.
(Showing my PSA 3 for comparison below.)

jordangretzkyfan

I always thought significant paper loss and/or pinholes meant a PSA 1.

olb31

Unbelievable.

ElMagoStrikeZone

Please tell me this is not currently being auctioned by 4SC.

RonSportscards

@jordangretzkyfan said:
I always thought significant paper loss and/or pinholes meant a PSA 1.

I thought its an automatic Authentic, but you may be right.
Here is an older grading in a PSA 1, probably still overgraded.

RonSportscards

@ElMagoStrikeZone said:
Please tell me this is not currently being auctioned by 4SC.

No not 4SC. But it looks like the same submitter subbed around 5 cards each of Mantle, Clemente, Mays.
I can't make sense of the grades given.
The cert just before the missing corner PSA 4 is also a PSA 4. HOW?
Nicely centered and nice back, and all 4 corners present. LOL
I was going through my raw cards for submission and trying to compare what's out there, but I don't know what to think.

ElMagoStrikeZone

@RonSportscards I would assume the missing corner Clemente example received a 4 because the picture and colors are much better than the second example you've provided here, which appears to be more faded, though well-centered and NO missing corners. Head scratchers, yup.

RonSportscards

@ElMagoStrikeZone said:
@RonSportscards I would assume the missing corner Clemente example received a 4 because the picture and colors are much better than the second example you've provided here, which appears to be more faded, though well-centered and NO missing corners. Head scratchers, yup.

I used the ebay listing pic on the no corner Clemente. I think the ebay lister enhanced the contrast and color of the card.
Here it is from PSAs website. Now showing more similar to the second example.
Noticed the no corner Clemente had more print dots too and staining showing through the front.

ElMagoStrikeZone

Criteria met for overall presentation, I suppose. Just proves the persistence of opinions here on how 2 or more of an item in the exact same grade don't necessarily seem equal. For what it's worth, I'd choose the centered copy over the torn corner. Pretty sure most of those who post here would say the same.