My new submission to our host.
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Last Monday I mailed 18 coins to our host for grading and True View. The coins are a mix of MS circulation strike, SMS and proof US coins dated from 1917 to 1967.
The package was received on 8-14-2024 and today the submission was logged in by our host.
It will be interesting to see the grades and designations these coins receive [two of them are SMS varieties]; and it will be interesting to see if the True View photographs of the coins are high quality or not.
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I'd wager NOT. When was the last time "high quality" was attained?
"Got a flaming heart, can't get my fill"
I can answer that with a picture:
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
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😱 Oh boy….. I’ll say a prayer for your TVs!
Having fun while switching things up and focusing on a next level PCGS slabbed 1950+ type set, while still looking for great examples for the 7070.
The real question is why you would even entertain the idea to pay for photos given the recent feedback on the poor quality.
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Hope springs eternal.
Maybe, just maybe my submission will trigger a True View Renaissance, or Rebirth
If they come back as poor as the past ones, let me know and I’ll see if I can help you out.
Coin Photographer.
(But it's okay to bash PCGS)
Sometimes I think that animals are smarter than humans, animals would never allow the dumbest one to lead the pack
FWIW, my coins were delivered to CACG on 8/14 and have yet to be logged into the system.
LOL. Making observations about the woefully bad TV quality is far from bashing, it’s just telling the truth. The reason we keep beating that drum is because we like the overall service provided, but without the quality photography, the value of the service that PCGS provides has been greatly diminished in our eyes.
Normally, constructive criticism can be a catalyst for change. Unfortunately, the principals at PCGS have been made aware of this issue long ago, and have taken no action to remedy the problem. What would you suggest we do at this point? Should we continue to patronize PCGS, all the while continuing to voice our displeasure? Or should we just take our business elsewhere? Methinks PCGS would prefer the former...
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I too, submitted 5 coins plus, 1 crackout.
They received it June 28.
Still waiting for them to grade...
I did pay for The TrueView.
The TrueView, is not what I'm worried about.
The grades are what makes my fingernails short!
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Good Luck on your submission.
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Sometimes I think that animals are smarter than humans, animals would never allow the dumbest one to lead the pack
I'm waiting until the TV issues get resolved... sitting on a small pile of stuff and trying to be patient.
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Obviously PCGS would prefer the former, but what reason or motivation does PCGS have to fix the problem if everyone continues to pay. If you want action then logic dictates that you need to vote with your wallet.
The real issue is how much does a terrible TV affect the sale of a coin down the road. I see a bad TV as a boat anchor, I always do a cert verification on a PCGS coin prior to a purchase. A poor TV could easily cause me to pass even though I know that the TV service is a problem. I realize that not every buyer does this but some do.
As I said you can complain about it all day long, but if I'm PCGS as long as you keep paying why would I worry about changing anything when you still pay up.
My Collection of Old Holders
Never a slave to one plastic brand will I ever be.
Even if the seller has their own spectacular photos?
Usually for me the seller's photos aren't great but the TVs allow me to make the buy/sell decision. Although the newer TVs don't look great, in most cases they still allow me to assess and know the coin's surface preservation which is what I care about most. Would I love it if the TVs were better for my digital photo album? Of course. But I don't really have an alternative. Some could say CACG is an alternative, but I'm not about to send my collection there for crossover to have 3/4 of the coins come back a grade lower or Details for some minor issue I haven't noticed or cared about.
I learned yesterday that a recent submission of SMS and 1968-1970 proof coins has been completed; and that the True View photos of the submitted coins show the Cameo contrast and toning well.
When my recent submission is graded and photographed I will post the results.
I submitted six at Baltimore... they were received on 6/21. I'm still waiting to progress to Grading but it should be any day now...
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For myself that is an even greater concern, which set of photos is correct? Are the seller's photos altered to remove the pronounced yellow that has been so much the issue with the TV?
My Collection of Old Holders
Never a slave to one plastic brand will I ever be.
I just looked at True View photos of the recent submission I mentioned earlier.
The photos look absolutely fantastic
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That's good news!! My submission just went from "received" to "grading"... fingers crossed!!
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It was my submission that Kevin mentioned. Not only did I get some pretty solid grades, but my TrueViews were also of consistent quality to when Phil was there. For what it's worth I did include a note on the submission form to photograph the coins to highlight the cameo contrast. Here is a sample of the images I received.
SP67 CAM
SP68
SP67 CAM
PR69 DCAM
PR69 DCAM
PR69 DCAM
PR69 CAM (Not sure what I need do to make a DCAM quarter for 68 and 69).
PR69 DCAM
PR69 DCAM
Don.
Great coins. You have a keen eye for quality.
The SP68 1966 cent is an absolute stunner.
I am looking forward to the results of your recent economy submission.
I went to Coinfacts to check how Trueviews for SMS cents look. Yours was the first one that showed up. Congrats on the top pop 23/4
These are excellent TVs compared to what I've seen recently. Great coins as well!
Collecting: Cents, Dansco 7070, Half Dollars, 1947, 1976, random pieces I like
My PCGS Registry
TTT.
My 4 coin Modern submission quickly went from received to grading. Yesterday the 4 coins progressed to being imaged.
This submission is moving quickly
I have an Express with Variety order that was received 8/13, moved through grading into encapsulation on 8/15 and has been stuck there since🫤
I also have another express order that was delivered on this past Tuesday 9/3 and still hasn't been put into the system as received 😡
Just checked and my 4 coin Modern Submission is now in Encapsulation.
It was received on 8-19-2024 and is now 20 days into the grading process. The turn around time for this submission is much faster than I experienced last year.
Another 8 coins (sent in with a Voucher) in my 8-19-2024 18 coin submission have progressed to Encapsulation. I expect that these coins will move into QA by early next week.
The remaining 6 coins (an Economy submission) is still in Received.
The four coin Modern Submission has been returned and I am pleased with these results:
1 1 50895347 84198 1966 5C SMS, CAM SP66CA USA
2 1 50895348 84199 1967 5C SMS, CAM SP66CA USA
3 1 50895349 146048 1966 50C SMS DDO FS-104, CAM SP66CA USA
4 1 50895350 146048 1966 50C SMS DDO FS-104, CAM SP66CA USA
The 8 coin voucher submission is now in QA.
They must have decided it's time to work on clearing out the backlog, my economy order received 7/1/24 just went to encapsulation yesterday.
Those coins are so "frosty" I can feel the chill.😀
TTT.
Grades have posted on my 8 coin voucher submission. As have True View photos.
Overall I am pleased with the results (I had doubts the Walker would straight grade
; and the dividing line between a brilliant proof and a Cameo proof is a mystery)
1 1 50895370 6569 1917 50C Genuine UNC Details (92 - Cleaned) USA
2 1 50895371 86696 1955 50C, CAM PR67CA USA
3 1 50895372 393218 1956 50C Type 2, DDR FS-801 PR68 USA
4 1 50895373 6697 1956 50C Type 2 PR66 USA
5 1 50895374 6697 1956 50C Type 2 PR67 USA
6 1 50895375 6697 1956 50C Type 2 PR68 USA
7 1 50895376 6697 1956 50C Type 2 PR67 USA
8 1 50895377 85993 1961 25C, CAM PR67CA USA
TTT.
Today the grades on the 6 coin Economy submission received on 8-19-2024 finally posted. Overall I am pleased with the results. Will post True View photos when available.
1 1 50895391 84185 1953 5C, CAM PR67CA USA
2 1 50895392 4188 1956 5C PR67 USA
3 1 50895393 84192 1960 5C, CAM PR68CA USA
4 1 50895394 5225 1950 10C PR68 USA
5 1 50895395 5226 1951 10C PR68 USA
6 1 50895396 85996 1964 25C, CAM PR67CA USA
The 1956 nickel is an attractive toner that will be a great addition to a toned Registry 1956 Proof Set.
The 1953 nickel, the 1960 nickel, the 1950 dime and the 1951 dime will upgrade my Registry Sets for those years.
What about the 1960 quarter? I am looking for one.
True View photos have posted. They quality of the photos is not very good, especially the toned 1956 nickel. In hand all of the coins are more eye appealing than they appear in the photos.
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I have submitted only 1 1960 quarter for grading. It graded PF68DCAM and is in my 1960 Proof Set Registry Set. I have not been able to find any other 1960 proof quarter that warrants a Cameo designation.
So do we think the TV quality has improved? It's hard to tell on proof coins as those are much easier to shoot.
Nice coins btw @ModCrewman
My last sub left little to be desired including the grades. These two did hit 67 but you couldn't tell by looking at the images.
My recent observation is that they are now trying much hard. It's still hit and miss but the bad photos aren't as bad as they used to be.
I'd have been disappointed with Kevin's last batch of TV's. Nice grades though.