Possible double die hit on a 1927 Lincoln head penny?

Lonniechappy

Hello Everyone,
I have been with the CU for over a year now and this is my third inquiry into an error coin. After buying a small glass peanut butter jar of pennies at an estate sale for 2 bucks, a came across this 1927 Lincoln penny which I believe is a double die hit. Please see attached photos. Can not find much information about this year penny. Hoping for some feedback from the forum about this coin and if indeed it is a double die hit.
Thanks,

MWallace

That is a nice example of mechanical doubling. No extra value.

JBK

@Lonniechappy said:

Hello Everyone,
I have been with the CU for over a year now and this is my third inquiry into an error coin. After buying a small glass peanut butter jar of pennies at an estate sale for 2 bucks, a came across this 1927 Lincoln penny which I believe is a double die hit. Please see attached photos. Can not find much information about this year penny. Hoping for some feedback from the forum about this coin and if indeed it is a double die hit.
Thanks,

There is no such thing as a "double die hit".

A doubled die is an anomaly in the die - the coin itself is not struck twice.

Your coin looks to be like Machine Doubling. If there is a known doubled die for that year then you could compare yours to that.

PROMETHIUS88

I have found this very helpful in looking for varieties of wheaties.

https://www.ngccoin.com/variety-plus/united-states/cents/lincoln-cents-wheat-reverse-1909-1958/?page=1

TomB

Mechanical doubling. Not a doubled die. You may want to refer to the below for some help, I am not the creator of it-

gumby1234

What @JBK said is exactly what I was going to say.

jesbroken

Would not mechanical doubling be a type of double die striking of the coin, just not valuable as a doubled die struck coin(one strike from an already doubled die)? Even though most new collectors think that a doubled die coin is two or more strikes, the terminology is not readily understood by most new collectors. New collectors, who most are searching for that rarest coin, the doubled die variety do not understand the minting process and therefore consider every doubling on a coin to be a doubled die when actually not. I'm sure this is not the best explanation, but still I think new collectors should understand this before searching thru change. Might be a good idea to have a more proficient explanation posted at the top of page 1 of the forum. SEARCHING thru change rules to go by and then list the 4 or 5 top rules to searching change, which you must admit seems to aggravate most members regarding new poster's questions.
Jim

JBK

@jesbroken said:
Would not mechanical doubling be a type of double die striking of the coin, just not valuable as a doubled die struck coin(one strike from an already doubled die)?

No, it would not be.

Doubled Die, and Machine Doubling, and Double (or more) Struck are three very different things.

You can have combinations of those, of course.

jesbroken

Didn't say doubled die strike, I said double die strike as in two strikes as in a bounced or loose die striking twice, once off from the original strike. Unfortunately, many think doubled die and double die strikes are the same, but are not.
Jim

JBK

@jesbroken said:
Didn't say doubled die strike, I said double die strike as in two strikes as in a bounced or loose die striking twice, once off from the original strike. Unfortunately, many think doubled die and double die strikes are the same, but are not.
Jim

Why not just say "double struck" instead of "double die struck"? Wouldn't that avoid a ton of confusion among newbies? 🤔

Manifest_Destiny

Nothing new to add, the posters above covered it exactly right.

jmlanzaf

@Manifest_Destiny said:
Nothing new to add, the posters above covered it exactly right.

I certainly see no reason to add anything to your failure to add anything.

jmlanzaf

@jesbroken said:
Didn't say doubled die strike, I said double die strike as in two strikes as in a bounced or loose die striking twice, once off from the original strike. Unfortunately, many think doubled die and double die strikes are the same, but are not.
Jim

Chatter during the single strike of the coin should not be called a double strike, in my opinion.

MWallace

@JBK said:

@jesbroken said:
Would not mechanical doubling be a type of double die striking of the coin, just not valuable as a doubled die struck coin(one strike from an already doubled die)?

No, it would not be.

Doubled Die, and Machine Doubling, and Double (or more) Struck are three very different things.

You can have combinations of those, of course.

Machine doubling is considered damage since it happens after the strike, albeit a VERY small fraction of a second after.

Manifest_Destiny

@jmlanzaf said:

@Manifest_Destiny said:
Nothing new to add, the posters above covered it exactly right.

I certainly see no reason to add anything to your failure to add anything.

I failed to add anything new.

Lonniechappy

To All,
Thanks for the feedback. Did not mean to use the wrong terminology in my first post. From your posts I have now learned that I do have a mechanical doubling coin and also now know the difference with the correct terminology. Learned a lot in the past 24 hours about this, due to some of you steering me to educational sites in regard to this type of error.
Thanks Again,

MWallace

@Lonniechappy said:
To All,
Thanks for the feedback. Did not mean to use the wrong terminology in my first post. From your posts I have now learned that I do have a mechanical doubling coin and also now know the difference with the correct terminology. Learned a lot in the past 24 hours about this, due to some of you steering me to educational sites in regard to this type of error.
Thanks Again,

You're a breath of fresh air compared to other recent Newbies. Welcome to the forum. Learning about coins is a GREAT journey. I hope you plan to stick with it. You sound like you're willing to learn. You're at a great place to do so.

DCW

Kind of interesting that this mechanical doubling mimicks rather closely the spread on the date of the real doubled die.

I would have gotten excited for a second or two.