Feast Your Eyes on this raw O-Pee-Chee Gretzky RC
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First of all, I didn't buy it. Second of all, someday, I may wish I had. 
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Low feedback and sold 200 items recently. Probably a safe bet watching like you did.
Already bought a couple things from him. Low impact stuff. Seems legit. Some pretty impressive cards amongst the 200.
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If legit it is extremely out of focus. Yellow in all the wrong spots. I’d guess sheet cut if legit.
If that's sheet cut, whoever did it, is very clever.
Thanks. This is the conversation I hoping to have. I see the registration causing the yellow to bleed. I'm trying to learn about the features of the card from those with more knowledge than me, as much as anything.
Other opinions are welcome.
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Also look at what else they are selling. If new and just learning. First start by looking at already graded cards.if that card is 100% legit and proper size I’d guess top grade is a 6 based on just the focus. 6s sell for about 3000ish. Card looks mint but it is not even close due to the image.
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Yes, I have made the comparisons. I would have considered it at a lower price. But, I was too late anyways, it was long gone.
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I don’t think it is sheet cut. On most cards that focus would bother me but since the Gretzky is an out of focus photo it doesn’t look appreciably worse than one with better registration to my eyes.
I would want to make absolutely sure that card measures out. The trimmers can even replicate the opc rough cut
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
Not really on topic, but every time I see this and other big raw cards, I wonder about the eBay policy prohibiting them from being listed: https://www.ebay.com/help/policies/prohibited-restricted-items/autographed-items-policy?id=4283
Now that authentication has been introduced, you’d think they’d drop the policy (not that they ever seem to enforce it).
Jim
Hmmm. So if it goes to authentication as stated in the auction, it should get rejected according to their policy, right?
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This card looks legitimate to me. But, as previously mentioned, the focus will prevent a high grade. My guess is that it will top out at a 7.
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The rough cut looks awfully uniform on all 4 sides. I have a few OPC's in my collection. Usually not the case.
Can some of the OPC guys chime in on that?
Whoever bought this better hope CGC (or whoever authenticates it) gets it right. If it goes to PSA and gets rejected, the buyer is screwed after 30 days.
I’m thinking it’s real. The seller is selling all kinds of vintage. The rough cut is always suspect. Especially when it’s a clean card. My guess is that it rates anywhere from a psa6 to a psa 8. I wish there were better pics. I wish the OP gets a good return.
62 feedback. Talk about risky.
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I don't worry about low feedback. I've had myriad success over the years buying from low/no feedback sellers.
This isn't about the seller. It's about the card. A card which seems to have multiple personalities. It's been almost 20 years since I've had the pleasure of getting an OPC Gretzky RC graded by PSA. That one got a EX-MT 6.
I'm curious about the features of this card which create the standards for grading in case I get drunk enough to buy another one.
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Every seller has to start somewhere. I wouldn't consider over 30 but below 100 low. Especially if you can see if somewhat similar items had been sold and had feedback left (obs not the $5k kind, but the vintage). If it was all buying feedback, then yes, that wouldn't count.
Card looks good to me. Wonder if there are surface issues.
Agreed. Some of my best deals and pickups have been from low feedback sellers who other bidders are afraid to bid with. Often they aren't as savvy either...the odds of getting a great deal with an experienced seller are lower in most cases also, as they know what they have and usually price items higher.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
That is a legit pack pulled RC. The print registration of misaligned yellow will hold it at max PSA 7, with bump to PSA 7.5 given the strong centering and sharp corners. You can tell the registration issue by looking at the oil drip and his legs.
Looks like there is a wrinkle on the back though that will knock it down to PSA 5 if subbed.
Yeah I think the seller is selling hope and knows he is not leaving money on the table. But profiting off it
Thank you for your comments. This is the most sensible reply. I noticed the back wrinkle immediately and had I been able to negotiate with the seller before the card was claimed, I might have used it to my advantage to knock down the price. It's still a gorgeous card. It appeals to those who straddle the dividing line between accurately graded and slabbed or just a raw card in hand. Like me.
These opportunities don't fall out of the sky very often.
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The seller has been plowing through an all sports collection dating back to the late 60s. I'm pretty convinced he's profiting from EVERYTHING.
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Yes, I just hope people do not think they will profit if they buy this type of listing or his past ones. Curious how those Star Jordan’s do. Never seen suck a centered one inside a bag. Personally I wouldn’t buy any of his listings.
Sometimes we just gotta put on the big boy pants and play a hunch. If this guy was advertising an Estate Sale, I'd have blown it off long ago.
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I've generally always had good luck in the past with new sellers. If he was selling raw packs of 1979 OPC Hockey and 1986 Fleer Basketball I'd avoid automatically. But, this guy seems to be a long time collector who is just starting to sell off his collection. Of course, this does not validate the card itself as any legit collector can unknowingly buy a trimmed/fake card.
The Star Jordan rookie appears to have water damage at the top.
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I have never seen that card with the "yellow misaligned" like that. That is definitely not common. Maybe some sort of variation Collector bought it? Just having the extra yellow on the oil drip makes it a variation to some, no?
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If you do a search on the bay you will find others with similar features: yellow shading behind OILERS, the oil drip and on the top part of the inner white border on the right side of the card.
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It’s a nice card. Who knows about the surface, I bet there is a minor issue or 2. But heck I’d like to have the card in my stash no doubt.
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Welrd sale. 1 bid, $5k? May have been a shill to avoid a low sale.
In addition you would think with a card like that a few more pictures would have been added.
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Cagey move, for sure. For the flaws being described here, it was a price someone was willing to pay and may have been a Best Offer, so 5K isn't necessarily the cost. We wouldn't know unless the buyer leaves feedback which shows the actual price. I think that's how it works.
Anyways, I'm done trying to analyze the seller. I'm certain he's having a blast. I need therapy.
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PSA 6 but will sell at 7 prices with that centering. The registration however will throw off the big-time collectors. Even if this was in an 8, it wouldn't be the 8 I would spend my money on. Even if that little spider wrinkle in the back wasn't there.
Actually, you don't have to wait for buyer feedback. Most items show up on ebay's Terapeak tool. The selling price based on offer was $3850.
130point ?