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GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,514 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited January 2, 2025 7:47AM in U.S. Coin Forum

United States Mint Unveils Designs for 2025 Marine Corps 250th Anniversary Commemorative Coins
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United States Mint
July 18, 2024


Representatives from the United States Mint, the United States Marine Corps (USMC), and the Marine Corps Heritage Foundation joined together on Wednesday, July 17, 2024, to unveil the designs for the 2025 United States Marine Corps 250th Anniversary Commemorative Coin Program during a ceremony at the National Museum of the Marine Corps in Triangle, Virginia near Marine Corps Base (MCB) Quantico. The designs will be featured on a $5 gold coin, a $1 silver coin, and a half dollar clad coin, as authorized by Public Law 118-10 (PDF link), to support the mission of the Marine Corps Heritage Center.

“Each coin in the 2025 U.S. Marine Corps 250th Anniversary Program reflects the deep appreciation for the Marine Corps from a forever grateful Nation,” remarked Kristie McNally, the Mint’s Deputy Director. “We are incredibly thankful for every active Marine, veteran, and the families who support them. It is our privilege to connect America to the profound legacy of the United States Marine Corps.”




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  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,588 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If forced to choose, I would take door #2.

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,484 ✭✭✭✭✭

    prefer swapping silver and gold designs

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,484 ✭✭✭✭✭

    iwo jima ought to look great in proof

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  • MartinMartin Posts: 999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I can’t believe they are putting a rifle of that type on a coin. I like

    Martin

  • MedalCollectorMedalCollector Posts: 1,993 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Do they realize that they have already issued that same dollar coin before?


  • Manifest_DestinyManifest_Destiny Posts: 6,899 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Half dollar, meh. The other two aren't bad though. Certainly better than most of the garbage the mint produces.

  • Cranium_Basher73Cranium_Basher73 Posts: 3,247 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No crayons?

    Throw a coin enough times, and suppose one day it lands on its edge.

  • Manifest_DestinyManifest_Destiny Posts: 6,899 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Cranium_Basher73 said:
    No crayons?

  • Jacques_LoungecoqueJacques_Loungecoque Posts: 733 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @GoldenEgg said:
    Do they realize that they have already issued that same dollar coin before?


    Kind of sad and pathetic ain’t it?

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  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,514 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Cranium_Basher73 said:
    No crayons?


    The Mint always unveils its commemorative designs in 'Line Art' format.

    I doubt we will see the renderings until early 2025.(Please correct me if I'm wrong)

  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,514 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I love the design and the cause , but $865 is a bit steep for 0.243 troy oz. gold.








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  • erscoloerscolo Posts: 597 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2, 2025 8:01AM

    Another price hike. Given that both the proof and uncirculated are struck at the same mint for each denomination, I return to my historical process of ordering one half dollar and one silver dollar. Gold is just too pricey.

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,551 ✭✭✭✭✭

    i like the last one there. makes sense to me, i like

  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭✭

    $56 for a clad half dollar? Geez.

  • jakebluejakeblue Posts: 259 ✭✭✭

    For our family, the Iwo Jima Proof will find a home here. Late Grandmother's brother, my Granduncle, gave his all with the Fifth Division on that Island in March '45. Semper Fi Uncle Charlie.

    "The 2nd Protects the 1st"
  • HalfDimeHalfDime Posts: 172 ✭✭✭

    It is going to be interesting to see how sales do for these commemoratives, as they are the only one issued for this year, and that may lead to higher sales compared to last year. The sales report in about two months will give us a clue.

  • NJCoinNJCoin Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2, 2025 9:30AM

    @HalfDime said:
    It is going to be interesting to see how sales do for these commemoratives, as they are the only one issued for this year, and that may lead to higher sales compared to last year. The sales report in about two months will give us a clue.

    There are not too many people who make buying decisions based on how many other commemoratives are scheduled to be released. They do so based mainly on subject matter, and then on price.

    They are never intentionally produced in limited quantities, since these are all produced with the goal of raising money to support a sponsoring organization. Yet, the quantities produced only go down year by year due to tepid demand. Likely due to insane pricing and lack of widespread interest in the chosen subjects.

    The Marine Corps should be a somewhat popular subject, likely stimulating more interest than those from last year, but I would not read that to stand for the proposition that one commemorative per year will do better than two. Pick the wrong subject, and the coins will not sell, even if they are the only ones offered in a given year.

  • BullsitterBullsitter Posts: 5,777 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hmmmmnnnn...the 20th Anniversary of the 2005s.

    FIRST STRIKE FLAG Label would look great on these.

  • HalfDimeHalfDime Posts: 172 ✭✭✭

    @NJCoin said:
    There are not too many people who make buying decisions based on how many other commemoratives are scheduled to be released. They do so based mainly on subject matter, and then on price.

    If they had a Marilyn Monroe commemorative and this one for 2025, I would guess Marilyn would outsell it and take away sales. It might be enough that it would hit all-time lows. However that isn't likely since Marilyn is not here.

  • NJCoinNJCoin Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2, 2025 10:31AM

    @HalfDime said:

    @NJCoin said:
    There are not too many people who make buying decisions based on how many other commemoratives are scheduled to be released. They do so based mainly on subject matter, and then on price.

    If they had a Marilyn Monroe commemorative and this one for 2025, I would guess Marilyn would outsell it and take away sales. It might be enough that it would hit all-time lows. However that isn't likely since Marilyn is not here.

    Respectfully disagree. Marilyn would sell very well, but I honestly don't think she would take away a single sale from the Marines.

    There are going to be a whole bunch of very popular special commemorative coins released in 2026. Do you honestly think any one of them will detract from the sales of the others? Even though, if the mintages were unlimited, as they effectively are for regular commemorative releases, some would outsell others.

  • WillieBoyd2WillieBoyd2 Posts: 5,175 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2, 2025 10:12AM
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  • KellenCoinKellenCoin Posts: 1,222 ✭✭✭✭

    @MedalCollector said:
    Do they realize that they have already issued that same dollar coin before?


    This was discussed in our CCAC meeting. There were two reasons the committee ultimately recommended a similar design for the silver dollar. 1) The designated liaisons to the program from the Marine Corps Heritage Foundation made abdundantly clear that that was the design they wanted for the silver dollar, and that those pieces would sell. 2) Chief Engraver Joe Menna indicated his belief that the artistic/design evolution from 2005 to now has been of a sufficient scale to create a commemorative coin which, in your hand, will be distinct from its predecessor.

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  • NJCoinNJCoin Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2, 2025 2:04PM

    @KellenCoin said:

    @MedalCollector said:
    Do they realize that they have already issued that same dollar coin before?


    This was discussed in our CCAC meeting. There were two reasons the committee ultimately recommended a similar design for the silver dollar. 1) The designated liaisons to the program from the Marine Corps Heritage Foundation made abdundantly clear that that was the design they wanted for the silver dollar, and that those pieces would sell. 2) Chief Engraver Joe Menna indicated his belief that the artistic/design evolution from 2005 to now has been of a sufficient scale to create a commemorative coin which, in your hand, will be distinct from its predecessor.

    You guys can talk yourselves into anything you want. Maybe it sells. Maybe it doesn't.

    But it is almost EXACTLY the coin, which betrays a lack of originality and creativity. A few tweaks around the edges does not constitute "artistic/design evolution."

    Where I come from, it constitutes plagiarism. If I handed those designs to a professor for an assignment, without attribution, I'd fail the class.

    The coin will be distinct from its predecessor due to the date and a few minor tweaks. ALL the design elements are identical. Not merely inspired by the prior coin.

  • erscoloerscolo Posts: 597 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A seamless order process at 10:01 this morning (12:01 this afternoon EST). Quick make of $147, one half dollar and one dollar, each proof. And I even have the 2005 Marine Corps 230th proof silver dollar, so I will have to do a compare in a few months. All done with commemoratives for 2025 and it is only the first business day of the year.

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,484 ✭✭✭✭✭

    generally speaking, the laws that create the individual commem issue have mintage limits in the law

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,484 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2, 2025 5:15PM

    The designs will be featured on a $5 gold coin, a $1 silver coin, and a half dollar clad coin, as authorized by Public Law 118-10, to support the mission of the Marine Corps Heritage Center.

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,484 ✭✭✭✭✭

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  • KellenCoinKellenCoin Posts: 1,222 ✭✭✭✭

    @NJCoin said:

    @KellenCoin said:

    @MedalCollector said:
    Do they realize that they have already issued that same dollar coin before?


    This was discussed in our CCAC meeting. There were two reasons the committee ultimately recommended a similar design for the silver dollar. 1) The designated liaisons to the program from the Marine Corps Heritage Foundation made abdundantly clear that that was the design they wanted for the silver dollar, and that those pieces would sell. 2) Chief Engraver Joe Menna indicated his belief that the artistic/design evolution from 2005 to now has been of a sufficient scale to create a commemorative coin which, in your hand, will be distinct from its predecessor.

    You guys can talk yourselves into anything you want. Maybe it sells. Maybe it doesn't.

    But it is almost EXACTLY the coin, which betrays a lack of originality and creativity. A few tweaks around the edges does not constitute "artistic/design evolution."

    Where I come from, it constitutes plagiarism. If I handed those designs to a professor for an assignment, without attribution, I'd fail the class.

    The coin will be distinct from its predecessor due to the date and a few minor tweaks. ALL the design elements are identical. Not merely inspired by the prior coin.

    I don’t necessarily disagree with you - in fact, if you look at the transcript or recording of the meeting, you’ll see I raised many of the same points. But after the committee has deliberated and made its decision, regardless of my personal opinion, I will not object publicly and will back its decision. This feedback is always useful, though, and I always try to bring the opinions of forum members back for future programs. Thank you!

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  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 6,088 ✭✭✭✭✭

    $865 for .243oz of gold? I love my Corps but that's a big pass for this Marine. The mint should be brought up on charges for price gouging. SMPR!

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  • NJCoinNJCoin Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 3, 2025 7:42AM

    @MsMorrisine said:
    generally speaking, the laws that create the individual commem issue have mintage limits in the law

    They sure do! Do you think there is a practical difference between 50K gold coins, across all options, and no limit at all? Same for 750K halves and 400K dollars.

    That's my only point. Those limits might as well be 1,000,000,000,000 across all options, given how close any coin is going to be getting to its limit.

    In other words, for all practical purposes, the mintages are "effectively unlimited." Which is precisely what I said in my post above.

  • NJCoinNJCoin Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @blitzdude said:
    $865 for .243oz of gold? I love my Corps but that's a big pass for this Marine. The mint should be brought up on charges for price gouging. SMPR!

    Yeah. Nothing special about the Marines. This is how the Mint prices precious metal numismatic product in 2025. Before taking into account the surcharge "to support the mission of the Marine Corps Heritage Center."

    The pricing is very consistent with $3640 for one ounce of gold in a FH Dollar coin. And everything else they sell in gold. The percentage premium over spot for silver coins is far worse.

  • ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 8,065 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @KellenCoin said:

    @MedalCollector said:
    Do they realize that they have already issued that same dollar coin before?


    This was discussed in our CCAC meeting. There were two reasons the committee ultimately recommended a similar design for the silver dollar. 1) The designated liaisons to the program from the Marine Corps Heritage Foundation made abdundantly clear that that was the design they wanted for the silver dollar, and that those pieces would sell. 2) Chief Engraver Joe Menna indicated his belief that the artistic/design evolution from 2005 to now has been of a sufficient scale to create a commemorative coin which, in your hand, will be distinct from its predecessor.

    No disrespect intended but the lack of originality is profound in this "new" design. I sure hope the new coin looks better than the picture because to me the new design appears cartoon-ish in design compared the actual first coin. Commemm's are a tough sell these days and a basic retread of an old design will not help sales in my opinion.

  • SpkrmakrSpkrmakr Posts: 107 ✭✭✭

    I may get my wish that "only the few" will purchase the gold coin. There are some crazy low mintage modern gold commems but there is also crazy low interest at present. I bought one just because I had to have one. Semper Fi.

    Spkrmakr
  • $56 for a Single Clad Half Dollar? A Silver Eagle can be had for less than that. For $56 it should be made of silver, not clad!

  • HalfDimeHalfDime Posts: 172 ✭✭✭
    edited January 4, 2025 11:53AM

    I looked up what are iconic images for the Marines and there are really only two, which the silver dollar has for both images (flag raising and marine emblem). The third is a statue of Iron Mike. They could have had one coin show Iron Mike.
    The silver dollar should sell well since the first one sold 500,000 in total for the same design. I doubt it maxes out but but it won't be record lows.
    The commemoratives are suppose to sell as many as possible, I have talked about switching the commemorative program to one that only uses a changing reverse, and all coins use a classic coin obverse. For example have the buffalo head design on all one ounce silver coin obverses, Indian head design on all five dollar gold obverses.This would increase sales for all commemoratives. The real test for this will be what sales the mint gets in 2026 with the classic designs for the Best of the Mint 5 gold coins.

  • MaywoodMaywood Posts: 2,393 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This "program" has run its course long ago in my opinion.

  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm proud to be a Marine but not that proud!

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  • HalfDimeHalfDime Posts: 172 ✭✭✭

    The first week sales for these coins was very similar to the first week sales of the Harriet Tubman coins except for the silver proof coin.

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