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PCGS slab damage in usps--what would have caused this?

logger7logger7 Posts: 8,522 ✭✭✭✭✭

This coin holder was damaged in the mailstream, was in a padded mailer, what would have caused this as these holders are tough.

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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,346 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Something heavy hit the padded mailer. Shipping in padded mailers has its risks.

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  • GreenstangGreenstang Posts: 1,136 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Unless you were there it would be hard to say exactly what happened
    but it looks like the mailer took a good whack from something.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 34,247 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Impact damage, probably.

    Was it just in a bubble mailer? I usually double the bubble.

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 8,522 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have been double-bagging, usually putting the coin in a cardboard insert or envelope. It is hard to conceive how this would have gotten hit on the front so hard with the plastic bubbles protecting it. I filed a case with the usps appealing it to the DC appeals division and was told that unless the packaging shows specific damage they deny all such damage claims. (Domestic Mail manual Section 609.4.3p) The letter called the slab "fragile" which I don't see it as.

  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,346 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @logger7 said:
    I have been double-bagging, usually putting the coin in a cardboard insert or envelope. It is hard to conceive how this would have gotten hit on the front so hard with the plastic bubbles protecting it. I filed a case with the usps appealing it to the DC appeals division and was told that unless the packaging shows specific damage they deny all such damage claims. (Domestic Mail manual Section 609.4.3p) The letter called the slab "fragile" which I don't see it as.

    The chance of winning your case is essentially zero. Don't waste time pursuing it.

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  • logger7logger7 Posts: 8,522 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @291fifth said:

    @logger7 said:
    I have been double-bagging, usually putting the coin in a cardboard insert or envelope. It is hard to conceive how this would have gotten hit on the front so hard with the plastic bubbles protecting it. I filed a case with the usps appealing it to the DC appeals division and was told that unless the packaging shows specific damage they deny all such damage claims. (Domestic Mail manual Section 609.4.3p) The letter called the slab "fragile" which I don't see it as.

    The chance of winning your case is essentially zero. Don't waste time pursuing it.

    I already hit the end of the appeal process with the usps. I did it to send a message to their oversight that they need to handle packages better. Plus if they're going to mishandle packages, filing claims uses some of their resources as they have to take them seriously.

  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,596 ✭✭✭✭✭

    When mailing things I take the position that if it can be damaged, it will be, and I wrap accordingly.

    I don't leave anything to chance. I package to protect against pretty much anything.

  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,252 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Absolutely appears to be impact damage.

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  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,228 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Could be some sort machine they ran it thru.

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,144 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If you pay to get it reslabbed, will they keep the fancy label since the value is in the fancy label?

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  • logger7logger7 Posts: 8,522 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PerryHall said:
    If you pay to get it reslabbed, will they keep the fancy label since the value is in the fancy label?

    That's a good question then you have the cost of shipping and reslabbing which are prohibitive, those costs keep going up.

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,144 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @logger7 said:

    @PerryHall said:
    If you pay to get it reslabbed, will they keep the fancy label since the value is in the fancy label?

    That's a good question then you have the cost of shipping and reslabbing which are prohibitive, those costs keep going up.

    If you drop it off early at a coin show where PCGS is set up for grading, I wonder if they could replace the shell and keep everything else intact.

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,166 ✭✭✭✭✭

    When I was working at Collectors Clearinghouses back in the 70's some guy sent us a Draped Bust Dollar that he thought was a new die variety in one of those fold-over sticky cardboard mailers in a #10 envelope that arrived at our office inside a plastic bag, folded over double with a note on USPS letterhead that said something to the effect "Run over by an airplane at the Columbus, O. airport. Sorry!"

    Fortunately the coin was not where the envelope folded.

    Unfortunately it was not a new die variety.

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  • logger7logger7 Posts: 8,522 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PerryHall said:
    If you pay to get it reslabbed, will they keep the fancy label since the value is in the fancy label?

    That's a good question then you have the all the increased costs and shipping, if not done at a show where they may or may not have the gold inserts, expensive.

  • spacehaydukespacehayduke Posts: 5,751 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 14, 2024 12:30PM

    @logger7 said:
    I did it to send a message to their oversight that they need to handle packages better.

    Er, that is not going to happen, instead think about shipping in packaging that assumes impact damage may occur and protect accordingly. JHMO............

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  • orevilleoreville Posts: 11,975 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The crack in the slab does not bother me. Keep as is unless PCGS can replace the shell without losing your label.

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