Looks like Wander Franco's cards just bit the dust..

olb31

up to 20 years in prison. ouch.

craig44

yup, this is the final nail. it might surprise you though. Aaron Hernandez autos still have some value and others of the same ilk. some folks have a morbid fascination with bad bad people.

Vagabond

I would say that his cards bit the dust long time before that. I remember selling his Bowman Chrome RC for $220 is a PSA 10 and I have seen one sell for as low as $5 a few weeks ago. Crazy

bgr

he should change his name to Fander Wranco and stage a comeback!

mintonlypls

Anyone…care to bring me up to speed on this character and his cards?

Groo

@craig44 said:
yup, this is the final nail. it might surprise you though. Aaron Hernandez autos still have some value and others of the same ilk. some folks have a morbid fascination with bad bad people.

Bad luck people? Based on your posts regarding non violent card thieves figured you would be a lot less positive towards a murderer

stevek

@craig44 said:
yup, this is the final nail. it might surprise you though. Aaron Hernandez autos still have some value and others of the same ilk. some folks have a morbid fascination with bad bad people.

You're exactly right. For example Hitler used memorabilia is worth a small fortune. A few years ago, a phone from his Berlin bunker fetched a quarter million dollars.

I saw where a new found picture of Billy the Kid is estimated to possibly be worth in the millions.

lahmejoon

@stevek said:

@craig44 said:
yup, this is the final nail. it might surprise you though. Aaron Hernandez autos still have some value and others of the same ilk. some folks have a morbid fascination with bad bad people.

You're exactly right. For example Hitler used memorabilia is worth a small fortune. A few years ago, a phone from his Berlin bunker fetched a quarter million dollars.

I saw where a new found picture of Billy the Kid is estimated to possibly be worth in the millions.

Are you talking about the picture where he and his posse are playing croquet? That one was supposedly found where I live, but there's debate on its authenticity.

stevek

@lahmejoon said:

@stevek said:

@craig44 said:
yup, this is the final nail. it might surprise you though. Aaron Hernandez autos still have some value and others of the same ilk. some folks have a morbid fascination with bad bad people.

You're exactly right. For example Hitler used memorabilia is worth a small fortune. A few years ago, a phone from his Berlin bunker fetched a quarter million dollars.

I saw where a new found picture of Billy the Kid is estimated to possibly be worth in the millions.

Are you talking about the picture where he and his posse are playing croquet? That one was supposedly found where I live, but there's debate on its authenticity.

Yes, that is the picture I was referring to. I hadn't followed the story since I first read about it a while back. But I just googled it, and a website called "The Wild West Newsletter" in an article about the picture, experts on Billy the Kid have deemed it not to be him.

DBesse27

@mintonlypls said:
Anyone…care to bring me up to speed on this character and his cards?

Charged with pedophilia in the Dominican, statutory rape and sexual assault of a 14 year old. At one point was unanimously considered the #1 prospect in baseball.

mintonlypls

Thx DBesse…

For the info…”nice” guy.

BBBrkrr

@DBesse27 said:

@mintonlypls said:
Anyone…care to bring me up to speed on this character and his cards?

Charged with pedophilia in the Dominican, statutory rape and sexual assault of a 14 year old. At one point was unanimously considered the #1 prospect in baseball.

Hey, don't forget the girl's mom was charged too. Apparently, she was helping traffic her own child by taking payments to arrange travel, etc...

Sometimes a jail cell can't be far enough underground.

mexpo75

That's why they have the death penalty

Groo

@DBesse27 said:

@mintonlypls said:
Anyone…care to bring me up to speed on this character and his cards?

Charged with pedophilia in the Dominican, statutory rape and sexual assault of a 14 year old. At one point was unanimously considered the #1 prospect in baseball.

Speaks volumes in a place where normally a fistfull of singles will get all charges dropped

BaltimoreYankee

@DBesse27 said:

@mintonlypls said:
Anyone…care to bring me up to speed on this character and his cards?

Charged with pedophilia in the Dominican, statutory rape and sexual assault of a 14 year old. At one point was unanimously considered the #1 prospect in baseball.

The other part of that is he signed a $182M contract as a 20 year old with the Tampa Bay Rays. The team is notorious for letting talented players go once they become expensive but they bet big on the wrong guy here.

ndleo

The highest price paid for a Wander Franco RC I could find is $200K for a PSA 10 2019 Bowman Chrome Red Refractor Auto RC. I read at least 35 went for $10K or more.

Has anyone seen any of these cards come up for sale again? I see that some of the higher end 2019 Bowman Chrome Auto RCs sold for around $500 in May. That may not even be the floor the yet.

lahmejoon

@stevek said:

@lahmejoon said:

@stevek said:

@craig44 said:
yup, this is the final nail. it might surprise you though. Aaron Hernandez autos still have some value and others of the same ilk. some folks have a morbid fascination with bad bad people.

You're exactly right. For example Hitler used memorabilia is worth a small fortune. A few years ago, a phone from his Berlin bunker fetched a quarter million dollars.

I saw where a new found picture of Billy the Kid is estimated to possibly be worth in the millions.

Are you talking about the picture where he and his posse are playing croquet? That one was supposedly found where I live, but there's debate on its authenticity.

Yes, that is the picture I was referring to. I hadn't followed the story since I first read about it a while back. But I just googled it, and a website called "The Wild West Newsletter" in an article about the picture, experts on Billy the Kid have deemed it not to be him.

Yeah, there was a local card shop that got involved with this picture. I don't frequent that shop, but one time I was in there and they had a big blow-up copy of the picture and overheard them talking about it. They were trying to broker a deal to help the owner sell the picture. Interesting, if it was real.

Groo

@ndleo said:
The highest price paid for a Wander Franco RC I could find is $200K for a PSA 10 2019 Bowman Chrome Red Refractor Auto RC. I read at least 35 went for $10K or more.

Has anyone seen any of these cards come up for sale again? I see that some of the higher end 2019 Bowman Chrome Auto RCs sold for around $500 in May. That may not even be the floor the yet.

Floor may be under a buck?

To paraphrase Honeymooners Ed Norton,"hope it wasn't some poor person who's out 200000"

olb31

he's making joe c.'s cards look like mickey mantle's

craig44

@Groo said:

@craig44 said:
yup, this is the final nail. it might surprise you though. Aaron Hernandez autos still have some value and others of the same ilk. some folks have a morbid fascination with bad bad people.

Bad luck people? Based on your posts regarding non violent card thieves figured you would be a lot less positive towards a murderer

what makes you think i am a lot less positive towards a murderer? I was simply comparing the two creeps and that it is possible his cards may not end up at zero.

82FootballWaxMemorys

^ Well prolly not zero but tree fiddy is likley

mrmopar

There will always be some sort of premium for those people who stand out beyond the otherwise normal, even if it is for a negative reason.

On a less negative side of things, Jim Morris and Toe Nash are a couple that won't make you rich, but may cost more than you'd expect. The 2 pitchers from india that the baseball movie was made about as well. None of those guys ever did anything significant in their careers beyond the oddity of their stories, but yet people want those cards.