NNC Morgan--submitted to current service

logger7

This 1883-s Morgan dollar in a NNC slab was cracked out and graded by a current service:

How do you think it graded?

AUandAG

XF45?
bob

alaura22

I think it depends on who the curret service is
My quess would be details, cleaned

U1chicago

Here are the pictures for those that don't want to click a link:

U1chicago

My guess is AU details cleaned

davewesen

that is not a PCI slab, it is an NNC

logger7

@U1chicago said:
Here are the pictures for those that don't want to click a link:

Thanks, I found how to access the images and corrected the service.

gumby1234

XF details cleaned

hummingbird_coins

XF Details Cleaned + QC

logger7

I'll save the drama on this one: artificial toning.

MsMorrisine

not attractive toning and not dippable either

ajaan

@logger7 said:
I'll save the drama on this one: artificial toning.

Grade?

john_nyc1

Tough to tell from pics alone but based on overall wear - esp on Liberty's hair near ear - and overall field chatter my guess is MS40.

DeplorableDan

AU Deets is my grade for the coin, it looks like it was cleaned and then intentionally toned to look better. If it straight graded, perhaps it was netted to XF45.

jp84

EF Details. Cleaned.

davewesen

I had a Morgan that was in a PCI slab for 30? years. It developed a light orange toning as frequently seen from those slabs with 90% silver. The first time got QC. I used MS70 and then acetone and submitted again. Sadly your coin looks like it will still get a details if the color comes off.

RobertScotLover

This will not go well unfortunately, NNC should have been shot long ago

johnny9434

Xf 40/45

logger7

As far as I know NNC is now out of business.

coastaljerseyguy

@davewesen
PCGS must have been tough on all toning at time of submission. That first shot looks like NT all the way. Was it attractive to all, not really, but looked natural and I would have appreciated and bought if needed & kept original. But understand why you removed.

BStrauss3

@logger7 said:
As far as I know NNC is now out of business.

However, the Numistrust slab lives on - I'm north of 20 "organizations" that have used it... that [airquotes]collection[/airquotes] recently got promoted to a single-row and a double-row slab box from the Nonni Biscotti bucket it used to reside in.

Updated to add the list:

1. ACGS
2. American Grading Professional (AGP)
3. American Numismatic Institute (ANI)
4. BGC
5. Eagle Numismatic Grading (ENG)
6. Independent Coin Grading Authentication (ICGA)
7. International Grading Service (IGS)
8. Liberty View Certification Service (LVCS)
9. National Numismatic Certification (NNC)
10. NGS
11. North American Numismatic Certification (NANC)
12. Numismatic Grading Service (NGS)
13. Numispro
14. Numistrust (new) (NTCII)
15. Numistrust (NTC)
16. PNGS
17. Precise Grading Authenticators (PGA)
18. Prestige Coin Slabbing Service (PCSS)
19. Professional Grading Service (PGS)
20. Professional Numismatic Certification Services (PNCS)
21. Royal Numismatic Grading (RNG)