@stevek said:
........To automatically rule out their possible participation in this card heist, especially when they have a long time presence in the Dallas area, would be quite naive.......
If you mean the mafia, say the mafia. Mentioning Lufthansa was ridiculous.
Also, there is no such thing as the mafia, just ask them.
@stevek said:
........To automatically rule out their possible participation in this card heist, especially when they have a long time presence in the Dallas area, would be quite naive.......
If you mean the mafia, say the mafia. Mentioning Lufthansa was ridiculous.
Also, there is no such thing as the mafia, just ask them.
If you saw the movie Goodfellas, you'd know that in the movie, Tommy walked out of the airport with a suitcase filled with cash, in the same manner as the thief at the card show walked out with a suitcase filled with valuable cards.
No such thing as the Mafia - just ask J. Edgar Hoover. 😆
I like the crime drama angle being portrayed here, but it really seems like some smart folks took advantage of a few rather vulnerable card dealers when they were least aware of a threat. How in G*D's name could anyone in that group just casually walk away from a briefcase filled with so much value? (Hindsight Alert!)
Just letting it sit on the floor, unwatched, undetected, unchained. You just don't. If these criminals are so determined to make off like the Mafia dudes good ol' Steve claims they are, you could paint Goodfellas or Sopranos scenarios all over this mess. The thieves stole in broad daylight. They watched their victim until the perfect opportunity and then, like snakes they ambushed it.
@ElMagoStrikeZone said:
I like the crime drama angle being portrayed here, but it really seems like some smart folks took advantage of a few rather vulnerable card dealers when they were least aware of a threat. How in G*D's name could anyone in that group just casually walk away from a briefcase filled with so much value? (Hindsight Alert!)
Just letting it sit on the floor, unwatched, undetected, unchained. You just don't. If these criminals are so determined to make off like the Mafia dudes good ol' Steve claims they are, you could paint Goodfellas or Sopranos scenarios all over this mess. The thieves stole in broad daylight. They watched their victim until the perfect opportunity and then, like snakes they ambushed it.
I had previously stated, "The same "group" who did that may be involved with this in some manner. If not directly stealing it, then acting as a fence for the thieves."
i just threw the scenario out there as a possibility. Of course it's a given that nothing can be ruled out.
Frankly, I'm surprised the culprit hasn't been caught by now. I mean it seems like he was working there most of the day, somebody employed him. They've got him on the theft video and likely much more video while he was working. And they've got fingerprints on the chairs he was moving to run thru a fingerprint database.
Hard to believe that the police don't know who he is, but I haven't read where he has been identified yet?
Another scenario considering the lack of success in finding him thus far. He could be an undocumented alien, and he and the cards could be somewhere in Mexico right now, with organized crime down there trying to figure out the best way to profit off this.
@ElMagoStrikeZone said:
I like the crime drama angle being portrayed here, but it really seems like some smart folks took advantage of a few rather vulnerable card dealers when they were least aware of a threat. How in G*D's name could anyone in that group just casually walk away from a briefcase filled with so much value? (Hindsight Alert!)
Just letting it sit on the floor, unwatched, undetected, unchained. You just don't. If these criminals are so determined to make off like the Mafia dudes good ol' Steve claims they are, you could paint Goodfellas or Sopranos scenarios all over this mess. The thieves stole in broad daylight. They watched their victim until the perfect opportunity and then, like snakes they ambushed it.
I had previously stated, "The same "group" who did that may be involved with this in some manner. If not directly stealing it, then acting as a fence for the thieves."
i just threw the scenario out there as a possibility. Of course it's a given that nothing can be ruled out.
Frankly, I'm surprised the culprit hasn't been caught by now. I mean it seems like he was working there most of the day, somebody employed him. They've got him on the theft video and likely much more video while he was working. And they've got fingerprints on the chairs he was moving to run thru a fingerprint database.
Hard to believe that the police don't know who he is, but I haven't read where he has been identified yet?
Another scenario considering the lack of success in finding him thus far. He could be an undocumented alien, and he and the cards could be somewhere in Mexico right now, with organized crime down there trying to figure out the best way to profit off this.
Ah yes, the baseball cartels. Considering the location of the theft and proximity to the borderlands, I could envision some innocent looking dude wading through the Rio Grande in the opposite direction of the hordes of migrants, while protecting a briefcase strapped to his back, like who would notice?
@halosfan said:
I'm a bit surprised they have not been caught
1000000% agree
Not all crooks are the same and not all situations are the same. In the Best Western case it was dumb luck that the cards fell into the thief's hands, he really had no plan.
In the card show case this was thought out and planned. You will not be seeing these cards at the local pawn shop. Whomever stole these will have a plan in place to slowly sell these off.
If you were a crook, I wonder how you go about slowly releasing these.
You certainly have to crack them out of the flips because the numbers can be tracked. You also almost certainly do not want to stagger them in for regrading because I'm sure the skilled folks over at N54 who can identify idential defects on cards in different flips as compared to the stolen ones could lead to tracking who submitted the cards for grading. It would seem slowly selling raw and spreading them around in different places is the only viable alternative, but you have to find people willing to pay cash for some key ungraded cards.
But, I suppose if you're the crook, getting less money is better than trying to max out what they can get. Hopefully they get greedy and get caught.
where the crooks have nothing into them, the "smart" play would be to just hold onto them for 5 years or so and do nothing. then, when everyone has forgotten about them, start staggering them into the grading companies along with other cards.
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If you mean the mafia, say the mafia. Mentioning Lufthansa was ridiculous.
Also, there is no such thing as the mafia, just ask them.
If you saw the movie Goodfellas, you'd know that in the movie, Tommy walked out of the airport with a suitcase filled with cash, in the same manner as the thief at the card show walked out with a suitcase filled with valuable cards.
No such thing as the Mafia - just ask J. Edgar Hoover. 😆
I like the crime drama angle being portrayed here, but it really seems like some smart folks took advantage of a few rather vulnerable card dealers when they were least aware of a threat. How in G*D's name could anyone in that group just casually walk away from a briefcase filled with so much value? (Hindsight Alert!)
Just letting it sit on the floor, unwatched, undetected, unchained. You just don't. If these criminals are so determined to make off like the Mafia dudes good ol' Steve claims they are, you could paint Goodfellas or Sopranos scenarios all over this mess. The thieves stole in broad daylight. They watched their victim until the perfect opportunity and then, like snakes they ambushed it.
Enjoy the go.
I had previously stated, "The same "group" who did that may be involved with this in some manner. If not directly stealing it, then acting as a fence for the thieves."
i just threw the scenario out there as a possibility. Of course it's a given that nothing can be ruled out.
Frankly, I'm surprised the culprit hasn't been caught by now. I mean it seems like he was working there most of the day, somebody employed him. They've got him on the theft video and likely much more video while he was working. And they've got fingerprints on the chairs he was moving to run thru a fingerprint database.
Hard to believe that the police don't know who he is, but I haven't read where he has been identified yet?
Another scenario considering the lack of success in finding him thus far. He could be an undocumented alien, and he and the cards could be somewhere in Mexico right now, with organized crime down there trying to figure out the best way to profit off this.
Ah yes, the baseball cartels. Considering the location of the theft and proximity to the borderlands, I could envision some innocent looking dude wading through the Rio Grande in the opposite direction of the hordes of migrants, while protecting a briefcase strapped to his back, like who would notice?
Enjoy the go.
Wait 7 years for that and home free...