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johnny010johnny010 Posts: 1,647 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited August 28, 2024 2:21PM in U.S. & World Currency Forum

Hello
Have been thinking to get into notes at some point. My wife bought her first note at a show two weeks ago and I’ve quickly become quite interested.

Looking at the forum here, there are very few posts and overall activity vs the coin forum. Also from my research prices realized are still up over 2018/19 but seem to be coming back down vs 2021.

Is demand/interest for notes waining?
Understand this is a relatively mature market but surprised there isn’t more collector activity so just trying to understand a bit more before I jump in.

Notes I’m most interested in:
1875 $2 fr.391
1882 $100 gold fr.1207
1882 $500 gold fr.1216
1886 $1 Martha fr.217 is fine
1886 $5 fr.260
1896 Educational series
1899 $5 Chief fr.281
1901 $10 bison fr.120
1905 $100 gold fr.1179
1918 $2 Federal Reserve (although these seem over priced at the moment)
1922 $100 gold fr.1215

Thank for your thoughts,

JM

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  • Steve_in_TampaSteve_in_Tampa Posts: 1,969 ✭✭✭✭✭

    PM sent.

  • Serial_no_8Serial_no_8 Posts: 457 ✭✭✭

    I cannot speak to US Large size currency but from what I have observed in the past year or so, it seemed pretty frothy (compared to World currency which has flattened out IMO).

    Just a few other observations:

    • you can't judge a market by the activity of 1 forum (there's many others out there that are more active). I took the liberty to add a link to another forum which discusses trends of the US market here. My search on this site yielded 230 results but this one is fairly recent for the US market.
    • summer months tend to be slower than the rest of the year (& less "Wow" items tend to be offered) - this means that forums are also slower
    • Paper money collectors make up a small fraction of coin collectors. Some coin collectors cross into the world of paper (their nation) but then go back to coins only. And then there are paper-only hobbyist. Overall though, its a pretty immature hobby with potential to grow
    • The demand for collectible currency, fluctuates & goes in cycles. The pandemic caused quite a flurry of interest/activity but things have trended towards a steady decline over the last 2 years. I've tried to track world collector demand for the past 4-5 years here on my hobby site.
  • sellitstoresellitstore Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The market for currency has always been a smaller subset of the numismatic market with coins being the largest by far. Participants, board comments and transactions are all proportionally smaller.

    The large size type notes that you list are among the most popular items in the currency field so the market is more established and with more transactions than many other less popular currency areas. Pricing and trends are easier to discern for this type of material.

    There are a couple of observations.

    However, since I don't follow large size type too closely, I couldn't comment on recent trends in this market over recent years. I'm sorry that I'm of no help there.

    For this you could go to Heritage archives, search on the Fr. #s and order the results with most recent sales first. Compare notes of same grade and certification. Determine if there seems to be a consistent trend over the time period in question.

    Collector and dealer in obsolete currency. Always buying all obsolete bank notes and scrip.
  • Steve_in_TampaSteve_in_Tampa Posts: 1,969 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice examples @jfriedm56.
    I’m sure at some point, you’d like to add a Chief.

  • jfriedm56jfriedm56 Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Steve_in_Tampa. Absolutely Steve. Just haven’t come across the right one yet. Zack.

  • johnny010johnny010 Posts: 1,647 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks
    Love the notes and input from the fellow members here. Much appreciate. I’ll post up my first note soon.

  • synchrsynchr Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭✭

    Interest is dropping like a rock and you are smart to jump in now before they turn

  • johnny010johnny010 Posts: 1,647 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Rodentman said:
    Chief...I was lucky enough to find and afford this one...

    The Chief is one of one most collectible notes from what I’m hearing. Love the look and definitely the history.

  • RodentmanRodentman Posts: 85 ✭✭✭

    I went to Rutgers in New Brunswick NJ. Hmmm I think I'll look for one of those bills.

  • RodentmanRodentman Posts: 85 ✭✭✭

    Found one!

  • sellitstoresellitstore Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Rodentman said:
    Found one!

    Yeah, but now you have to buy the other denominations from the bank. They include a $2, $3, $5, $10, $20, $50, $100 and $500. For some denominations, like the $3, there are two designs.

    And pretty much every one is available here, for a price.

    Collector and dealer in obsolete currency. Always buying all obsolete bank notes and scrip.
  • RodentmanRodentman Posts: 85 ✭✭✭

    I learned in my collecting journey that I cannot have everything. There are some series I want in full, such as the Morgan CC set, which I have accomplished. The Bank of New Brunswick isn't one of them. And I closed my Ebay account for a variety of reasons.

  • johnny010johnny010 Posts: 1,647 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 28, 2024 2:29PM


    NEWP

  • sellitstoresellitstore Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A beauty. Bright, fresh and well-centered. Better than many CU examples, you'd probably have to pay 65+ prices to find a nicer one.

    Collector and dealer in obsolete currency. Always buying all obsolete bank notes and scrip.
  • johnny010johnny010 Posts: 1,647 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 21, 2024 6:22AM

    @sellitstore said:
    A beauty. Bright, fresh and well-centered. Better than many CU examples, you'd probably have to pay 65+ prices to find a nicer one.

    Thanks
    I’m trying to look at notes differently that I look at coins. For the 1891 I saw it at my LCS and they only bought it to get a coin deal done. The price was well below comps and anywhere else I could find, including ANA where a long time, upstanding dealer showed me his cost on his same note in same grade.

    I have a few more notes that are en route.

    Here’s a fun one that was not on my list above.

  • johnny010johnny010 Posts: 1,647 ✭✭✭✭✭


    Picked this one up. In hand it looks much better than the photos suggest. The orange reverse was hard to capture the vibrance still left on this guy dating back to 1906.

  • johnny010johnny010 Posts: 1,647 ✭✭✭✭✭


    From the 1907 Knickerbocker Crisis and issued in Portland. Very crazy story from over 100 years ago. I couldn’t find a finer graded script from this $1 run.

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  • TxCollectorTxCollector Posts: 430 ✭✭✭✭

    @johnny010 said:

    Mr. Arkansas Collection? That's a pedigree that I've never seen before :)

  • johnny010johnny010 Posts: 1,647 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jeffas1974 said:

    Mr. Arkansas Collection? That's a pedigree that I've never seen before :)

    The collection was just sold off. I thought this was a nice one for the grade and price.

  • TxCollectorTxCollector Posts: 430 ✭✭✭✭

    @johnny010 said:

    @jeffas1974 said:

    Mr. Arkansas Collection? That's a pedigree that I've never seen before :)

    The collection was just sold off. I thought this was a nice one for the grade and price.

    Definitely a nice note! You have had some great ones to share with us lately :)

  • jfriedm56jfriedm56 Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A few George’s.


  • TypekatTypekat Posts: 416 ✭✭✭✭

    Hmm

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  • johnny010johnny010 Posts: 1,647 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jfriedm56 said:
    A few George’s.


    I like these. Never considered grouping them by image (George). Nice!

  • johnny010johnny010 Posts: 1,647 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jeffas1974 said:

    @johnny010 said:

    @jeffas1974 said:

    Mr. Arkansas Collection? That's a pedigree that I've never seen before :)

    The collection was just sold off. I thought this was a nice one for the grade and price.

    Definitely a nice note! You have had some great ones to share with us lately :)

    Thanks getting into this slowly. Have several nice ones I’m currently deciding on. In the meantime:

  • TxCollectorTxCollector Posts: 430 ✭✭✭✭

    @johnny010 said:

    @jeffas1974 said:

    @johnny010 said:

    @jeffas1974 said:

    Mr. Arkansas Collection? That's a pedigree that I've never seen before :)

    The collection was just sold off. I thought this was a nice one for the grade and price.

    Definitely a nice note! You have had some great ones to share with us lately :)

    Thanks getting into this slowly. Have several nice ones I’m currently deciding on. In the meantime:

    It seems like you're acquiring them at a fine pace. Don't rush and end up feeling like you settled on a note that you'll want to end up swapping out later. I feel like I made that mistake with a few notes because I was impatient.

    Also, similarly to coins, your rate of acquisition will slow down as your collection gets more complete or you'll start expanding into other areas like fractionals, nationals or small-sized to get your "fix" :p

  • johnny010johnny010 Posts: 1,647 ✭✭✭✭✭


    Speaking of fractionals 😉

  • jfriedm56jfriedm56 Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭✭✭




  • Steve_in_TampaSteve_in_Tampa Posts: 1,969 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A 10 cent Meredith Fractional with the green seal.

  • johnny010johnny010 Posts: 1,647 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Excellent note guys

    Keep them coming!!

    What’s the average purchase rate?
    One a month? One every six?

  • TxCollectorTxCollector Posts: 430 ✭✭✭✭

    @johnny010 said:
    Excellent note guys

    Keep them coming!!

    What’s the average purchase rate?
    One a month? One every six?

    I'm probably a 1x/month collector these days. It's kind of nice that this section of the forum is drama free compared to the dumpster fire going on at the moment in the US coin section lol. Grab your popcorn before opening this one.

    https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1107346/w#latest

  • johnny010johnny010 Posts: 1,647 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @goodmoney4badmoney said:
    I'm thinking error notes may need some representation here :o . Do you like errors @johnny010?

    Wow that's awesome. I changed the thread title to encourage anyone to post here.

    As for errors I've never looked at them, but the one you just posted is very cool!

  • sellitstoresellitstore Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Bought this one recently on Ebay for a reasonable $27. Notes on this issuer are scarce, maybe R4-R5 as an issuer but nearly all are unissued. Issued and high grade examples are rare.

    Collector and dealer in obsolete currency. Always buying all obsolete bank notes and scrip.
  • dsessomdsessom Posts: 2,397 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I started collecting paper currency, sadly, because I am getting older and my eyesight is getting worse. Paper currency is just easier to see for my aging eyes. I consciously decided to collect mostly mid-grade PMG notes because after browsing for many months, I found that many notes in the 40-58 range look as nice as many MS examples. I do purchase MS examples when I can, but I have no qualms with most mid-grade notes. I am a huge fan of Civil War era fractional notes! I only discovered them last year, and most are very affordable.






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  • TxCollectorTxCollector Posts: 430 ✭✭✭✭

    @humanssuck said:

    @johnny010 said:
    Excellent note guys

    Keep them coming!!

    What’s the average purchase rate?
    One a month? One every six?

    The first year, a couple a month. Lately, Im lucky if I can find 1 or 2 a year to buy. These were the latest purchases...last year.

    I’m a big fan of the fr 311! That and the $10 version are on my want list.

  • johnny010johnny010 Posts: 1,647 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @humanssuck said:

    @johnny010 said:
    Excellent note guys

    Keep them coming!!

    What’s the average purchase rate?
    One a month? One every six?

    The first year, a couple a month. Lately, Im lucky if I can find 1 or 2 a year to buy. These were the latest purchases...last year.

    If you look closely both of these notes are fantastic. I absolutely love the look. Well done. I hope you’re able to acquire more notes soon.

    I might have a surprise coming soon. Will see how negotiations pan out.

  • Steve_in_TampaSteve_in_Tampa Posts: 1,969 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @humanssuck said:

    @johnny010 said:
    Excellent note guys

    Keep them coming!!

    What’s the average purchase rate?
    One a month? One every six?

    The first year, a couple a month. Lately, Im lucky if I can find 1 or 2 a year to buy. These were the latest purchases...last year.

  • johnny010johnny010 Posts: 1,647 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Anyone ever seen this note?
    I find myself very interested. (This is not my note)

  • Steve_in_TampaSteve_in_Tampa Posts: 1,969 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It closely resembles the 1905 $20 “Technicolor” note

  • johnny010johnny010 Posts: 1,647 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Steve_in_Tampa is that your note?

    I read the comments and see it’s considered the pre-cursor to the technicolor.

    Coincidentally I found the aforementioned while doing some Technicolor research, and I’m hoping to seal the deal on my first one this week.

  • johnny010johnny010 Posts: 1,647 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Good news
    I’ve closed the deal on a beautiful 1905 Technicolor. Very excited to get this one in hand and post photos hopefully in the next two weeks (seller is sending via registered mail for safety).

  • johnny010johnny010 Posts: 1,647 ✭✭✭✭✭


    Guess the grade..

  • TennisCoachTennisCoach Posts: 314 ✭✭✭

    Very cool note! I'm tempted to say VF20, but I'll guess VF25.

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  • humanssuckhumanssuck Posts: 431 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @johnny010 said:

    Guess the grade..

    Id go with VF20. Its got very nice color though, extremely attractive note.

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