Made right.

coinshop

Seller did make right.

jmlanzaf

This thread strikes me as inappropriate and possibly a rules violation.

I know nothing about this site. It may be good or bad or worse. HOWEVER...

Any REALLY GOOD site should be vetting it's dealers. There are a LOT of amateur dealers at shows that would be hard- pressed to present business bona fides. Just because a site made it hard to gain acceptance proves nothing.

jmlanzaf

FWIW, I'm assuming they failed to approve you?

I looked at your website. I encourage anyone else considering your post to do so also before reaching any judgment.

coinshop

You looked at my site? And? Is there something wrong?

jmlanzaf

@coinshop said:
You looked at my site? And? Is there something wrong?

I don't want to pick a fight. You can charge whatever you want. But the prices on your circulated world coins don't exactly say "highly respected numismatist". It says "Etsy" to me.

coinshop

Well, we can nitpick pricing on every dealers site for every reason. I like what I sell. If you dont like the price, you have a free make offer button to ask and I will most likely take a fair price, I won't hide that I will sell you something and then dont or give you my word and back off.. I am saying this other site had promised dealers and lied. How many go back on their word? Happens all the time. This site did just that.

PeakRarities

I was invited to be a seller on Numismy a few weeks ago. The creator is Ethan Opdahl of Maryland coins, a trusted dealer and member of of the community.

I have not had a chance to try it since I’ve been so busy getting my website and business off the ground, but I intend to soon.

I sent Ethan a message when I saw this thread and offered to post his statement here. He said -

“The OP did not meet the minimum expectations of established sellers at this time, so he was not accepted - we are very strict on who we allow to sell and have a rigorous verification process, we have also just begun, so many sellers who will be accepted have not been as of yet”

jmlanzaf

@coinshop said:
Well, we can nitpick pricing on every dealers site for every reason. I like what I sell. If you dont like the price, you have a free make offer button to ask and I will most likely take a fair price, I won't hide that I will sell you something and then dont or give you my word and back off.. I am saying this other site had promised dealers and lied. How many go back on their word? Happens all the time. This site did just that.

I know nothing about that site. But they promised to vet the dealers, not accept all dealers who apply. That is true of numerous respected numismatic businesses. Your choosing to try and get even with them by libeling them may undermine your reputation more than theirs. I would ask that you reconsider this thread.

JBK

The OP stated:

I recently found out a couple dealers who applied who also sell quite a lot of inventory were restricted from selling. Why, I cannot say, but be warned, this thing seems like a scam.

Now it appears that it was the OP who was rejected by the site. He didn't mention that in his post and in fact tried to make the experience sound generic and suggested that he was raising the issue as some kind of public service.

In reality, he just has an axe to grind.

I looked at his site - very polished presentation but an eclectic mix of material, small we say. And the prices charged for the things I am familiar with are a little absurd.

I know nothing about Numismy, but so far, I'm on their side.

And before the OP tells me that I am always free to make an offer, remember that you only have one chance to make a first impression.

ElmerFusterpuck

If you grind any more, you won't have an axe left. Like others have said, your pricing on your site goes to the moon and beyond.

jmlanzaf

@JBK said:
The OP stated:

I recently found out a couple dealers who applied who also sell quite a lot of inventory were restricted from selling. Why, I cannot say, but be warned, this thing seems like a scam.

Now it appears that it was the OP who was rejected by the site. He didn't mention that in his post and in fact tried to make the experience sound generic and suggested that he was raising the issue as some kind of public service.

In reality, he just has an axe to grind.

I looked at his site - very polished presentation but an eclectic mix of material, small we say. And the prices charged for the things I am familiar with are a little absurd.

I know nothing about Numismy, but so far, I'm on their side.

And before the OP tells me that I am always free to make an offer, remember that you only have one chance to make a first impression.

You mean you didn't jump on this:

Connecticoin

$980 for a coin worth maybe $50 or so?

P0CKETCHANGE

@Connecticoin said:
$980 for a coin worth maybe $50 or so?

Looks like a gold-stickered rattler, so probably more like $350-$400.

coinshop

@Connecticoin said:
$980 for a coin worth maybe $50 or so?

Oh my god! ARREST ME!

coinshop

Have you seen it? It is definitely a 67+/ or 68 in my opinion, you can decide..WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER DEALERS WHO SELL OVER PRICED that people just gracefully buy from?

What gives already, why so disdain.

skier07

@coinshop said:
Have you seen it? It is definitely a 68 in my opinion. WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER DEALERS WHO SELL OVER PRICED that people just gracefully buy from?

I highly doubt a 65 is undergraded 3 points. I’ll leave it at that.

coinshop

See the surfaces close up.

lermish

@coinshop said:
Have you seen it? It is definitely a 67+/ or 68 in my opinion, you can decide..WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER DEALERS WHO SELL OVER PRICED that people just gracefully buy from?

What gives already, why so disdain.

We give them a hard time when they misrepresent themselves. Rick Snow is highly respected in the community but we gave him several pages of crap for a misleading description.

Do you deserve more benefit of the doubt than him?

JBK

More subterfuge from the OP.

The first post screed was changed to "Seller did make right."

coinshop

Ok well its just my value on an undergraded Merc dime. I do love offers, I never ever look the other way.

coinshop

Ethan is making right

JBK

It's also your misrepresentation of the situation in your original post, and also your attempt to erase the whole thing by changing the first post to something unrelated.

I've seen all I need to know.

braddick

The OP has gone by at least two different handles here on the boards and has been banned twice. One of those times he got into an argument as to why eBay banned him and he couldn't get around the fact they wouldn't re-instate him.
I could dig around past PM from other members here for better clarifications, but between him and mikee999s 'reincarnation' it gets tiring.

JBK

I recall that other fiasco.

And he wonders why he gets banned everywhere. 🙄

DCW

@coinshop said:
Ok well its just my value on an undergraded Merc dime. I do love offers, I never ever look the other way.

The problem is when you price your inventory intentionally high, no one will make an offer. They won't even bother to look at your coins, because you are playing games. My advice, price your items at levels you are comfortable accepting. You will be taken more seriously and appear less likely to be looking for a sucker.

coinshop

@braddick said:
The OP has gone by at least two different handles here on the boards and has been banned twice. One of those times he got into an argument as to why eBay banned him and he couldn't get around the fact they wouldn't re-instate him.
I could dig around past PM from other members here for better clarifications, but between him and mikee999s 'reincarnation' it gets tiring.

Sorry you feel this way about me pointing out the truth of the site.

coinshop

I think he is making right, lets see because I do have a ton of Ig followers who agree that he took the wrong road on this one.

lermish

@coinshop said:
I think he is making right, lets see because I do have a ton of Ig followers who agree that he took the wrong road on this one.

Curious how many of those you paid for at one of those pay for followers places. Awful lot of those followers are following thousands of people and have no followers themselves and just have blank profiles.

Seems awfully unlikely that PCGS has 46k followers and you have 81k yet no one is here vouching for you.

coinshop

Many do actually!

Connecticoin

@P0CKETCHANGE said:

@Connecticoin said:
$980 for a coin worth maybe $50 or so?

Looks like a gold-stickered rattler, so probably more like $350-$400.

Fair point. However, even 67FBs go for $200, $250 tops. $980 asking price is delusional.

coinshop

Many. I stay and sell, I never turn people away thats how I do things.

coinshop

@Connecticoin said:

@P0CKETCHANGE said:

@Connecticoin said:
$980 for a coin worth maybe $50 or so?

Looks like a gold-stickered rattler, so probably more like $350-$400.

Fair point. However, even 67FBs go for $200, $250 tops. $980 asking price is delusional.

@Connecticoin said:

@P0CKETCHANGE said:

@Connecticoin said:
$980 for a coin worth maybe $50 or so?

Looks like a gold-stickered rattler, so probably more like $350-$400.

Fair point. However, even 67FBs go for $200, $250 tops. $980 asking price is delusional.

Thats why I paid $400 on GC for it because of its look. Wowie..

PeakRarities

@lermish said:

@coinshop said:
I think he is making right, lets see because I do have a ton of Ig followers who agree that he took the wrong road on this one.

Curious how many of those you paid for at one of those pay for followers places. Awful lot of those followers are following thousands of people and have no followers themselves and just have blank profiles.

Seems awfully unlikely that PCGS has 46k followers and you have 81k yet no one is here vouching for you.

I could buy 10k followers at the drop of a hat for Pennies, they’re just bots and not real accounts. Common trick for businesses looking to “appear” more established than they are.

hummingbird_coins

@coinshop said:
Thats why I paid $400 on GC for it because of its look. Wowie..

You most certainly overpaid. Don't think that you can make a profit off everything by listing it at over 2x what you spent, because that will almost never work. I get that the rattler and gold CAC sticker are appealing to many people, but even then paying $400 is overkill, let alone expecting people will buy it from a less reputable seller for more than double the already-high price.

vintagebanks

@coinshop said:
Seller did make right.

Who is the "Seller" in the edited title opening post?
Original post was about some unnamed dealers not being accepted on the Numismy selling site.
(edit to correct spelling)

coinbuf

@coinshop said:
Ok well its just my value on an undergraded Merc dime. I do love offers, I never ever look the other way.

Ok as you love offers I'm offering $350 for the 44-S merc in the rattler.

ElmerFusterpuck

The OP is using a different shovel to dig the same hole on Instagram like he did here.

Kind of like bashing your thumb with a hammer, then switching hammers and still bashing the same thumb. Hint: it's not the hammer, it's the user.

NewEnglandRarities

Unfortunately, I have to point out the obvious here, this is the MO of the OP. Blame a platform when the fault lies with the user. I don’t have much sympathy here as I extended many helpful hints of why there were issues, and many of us tried to help this user (nxtlevel something) before.

Just to point out, your business model is about 30 years removed from today’s world. It seems just kind of sleazy, reminds me of all those electronic stores in NYC where a junky computer is $1500, and you walk out with it for $400 thinking your a genius, only to realize it’s $249 at Best Buy. I would highly suggest using an honest approach and do a little research on what you are selling, because frankly it doesn’t look good. I see the exact same coins you were trying to peddle months ago, with AI descriptions and all sorts of grammatical and factually incorrect statements. Nobody has anything against you, just the approach. If you clean this up and actually try to be part of these communities I think you will have a much more enjoyable time in coins! Just my two cents.

braddick

@ElmerFusterpuck said:
The OP is using a different shovel to dig the same hole on Instagram like he did here.

Kind of like bashing your thumb with a hammer, then switching hammers and still bashing the same thumb. Hint: it's not the hammer, it's the user.

Here is one of the threads that helps define the OP's modus

operandi:https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1093488/got-hosed-on-the-bay/p1

MFeld

Have you considered other options, such as being transparent, not playing games and not blaming others, just because you don’t get your way?

coinshop

Interesting dialogue here

jmlanzaf

@braddick said:

@ElmerFusterpuck said:
The OP is using a different shovel to dig the same hole on Instagram like he did here.

Kind of like bashing your thumb with a hammer, then switching hammers and still bashing the same thumb. Hint: it's not the hammer, it's the user.

Here is one of the threads that helps define the OP's modus

operandi:https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1093488/got-hosed-on-the-bay/p1

Ah, yes. What a glorious disaster that thread proved to be.

I suppose we shouldn't be surprised that the guy who was kicked off eBay is having trouble getting approved as a dealer

jmlanzaf

@coinshop said:
Interesting dialogue here

To understand just how unusually unanimous the forum is, note that no one has disagreed with me.

What we have learned from the thread YOU started is that you haven't learned anything from the ebay experience.

I think you could actually turn a parking ticket into a death sentence.

TwoSides2aCoin

Made-Right ? Ask an iowan. We ( everybody else) call them sloppy joes and they have a tomato/bbq sauce mixture with hamburger. They (iowans) just brown hamburger and put it on a bun. Mind a little spam ? Made Right or Manwich ?

+1 for nothin’

TwoSides2aCoin

What’s the beef ? CAC don’t want me…. PCGS keeps my coins longer than me.

TxCollector

@jmlanzaf said:

@coinshop said:
Interesting dialogue here

To understand just how unusually unanimous the forum is, note that no one has disagreed with me.

What we have learned from the thread YOU started is that you haven't leave learned anything from the ebay experience.

I think you could actually turn a parking ticket into a death sentence.

Even the whole USB grading drama thread(s) had some level of disagreement

airplanenut

@coinshop said:
Have you seen it? It is definitely a 67+/ or 68 in my opinion, you can decide..WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER DEALERS WHO SELL OVER PRICED that people just gracefully buy from?

What gives already, why so disdain.

When you have a long history of selling exceptional coins, maybe people will consider your word when ponying up huge premiums. Right now, you have a website full of items where even widgets are priced 4-5x what they are listed for all day every day on eBay. That's not the way to prove to people that they can or should trust your pricing on anything.

It was only a couple of days ago when I pointed out a bunch of your high-priced details coins and instead of saying listing them was a mistake (whether that would have been a true statement notwithstanding) you pretended they never existed after you quickly deleted them from your site.

If you want to be treated like a high-end dealer, earn your reputation and start acting like one. Otherwise, don't be surprised when everyone consistently rails on you. I hope this explains the disdain.

JBK

@braddick said:
Here is one of the threads that helps define the OP's modus operandi:

https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1093488/got-hosed-on-the-bay/p1

I re-read this thread and was reminded about the OP's behavior: the untruths, the misdirection, the constant contradictions of earlier statements.