CACG Holder with CAC in title

howep

IF CACG holder has 1914 Lincoln Cent CAC MS64RD does that mean it was crossed over from a PCGS/NGC slab with a green sticker

Cougar1978

That’s (CAC symbol, green bean) on all their holders. If L on holder means a legacy coin. The valuation basis ref for me is CDN CPG / Bid for CAC. The CDN values both (CACG & CAC coins) the same which I strongly agree with. Beyond that it’s up to the seller to set their retail pricing and marketing strategy based on cost, current market conditions, and the quality of the individual coin. Really nice PQ A coins trade the highest.

messydesk

All it means is that they started prefixing all the grades with CAC about a month or so ago.

BStrauss3

@Cougar1978 said:
If L on holder means a legacy coin.

I believe they only did the L for a short while.

MetroD

@BStrauss3 said:

@Cougar1978 said:
If L on holder means a legacy coin.

I believe they only did the L for a short while.

I am NOT a CACG expert.

That said, I believe that they are still issuing the 'Legacy designation' on crossover coins that qualify for it.

Legacy Crossover Policy: https://www.cacgrading.com/doc/legacy-crossover-policy/

coinbuf

@BStrauss3 said:

@Cougar1978 said:
If L on holder means a legacy coin.

I believe they only did the L for a short while.

You might be thinking of the cutoff date for the legacy designation, I have not heard or read that CAC has discontinued the legacy program for coins that were stickered prior to the cutoff.

JBN

@messydesk said:
All it means is that they started prefixing all the grades with CAC about a month or so ago.

Two versions of CAC holders now.

coinshop

Thought the same. New prefix on the holder

oreville

Oh now we have CAC 1.0 and CAC 2.0.

JoeLewis

Why does it say CAC and not CACG?

Kliao

@JoeLewis said:
Why does it say CAC and not CACG?

I believe that CACG was created by consumers to differentiate between the stickering and grading services and not by CAC themselves.

BStrauss3

@JBN said:

@messydesk said:
All it means is that they started prefixing all the grades with CAC about a month or so ago.

Two versions of CAC holders now.

Labels, not holders.

The taxonomy would best be described as {Shell, Insert, Label [variety], Name} - any or all of which may be changed over time

e.g

{Rattler, normal insert, White Label, White Label Rattler}
{Rattler, normal insert, Green Label, Green Label Rattler}
{Rattler+Ring, normal insert, Green Label, Green Label Rattler with Ring}

...

{normal shell, normal insert, Green Label, CACG 2024}
{normal shell, normal insert, Green Label with L code, CACG Legacy 2024}
{normal shell, normal insert, Green Label with CAC xx grade, CACG CAC grade 2024}

BStrauss3

@JoeLewis said:
Why does it say CAC and not CACG?

@JoeLewis said:
Why does it say CAC and not CACG?

CAC is their company name, CAC New Jersey (stickering) and CAC Virginia Beach (CACG) are their two business lines.

Sort of like Kroger Companies lines: Kroger, Ralphs, Dillons, Smith’s, King Soopers, Fry’s, QFC, City Market, Owen’s, Jay C, Pay Less, Baker’s, Gerbes, Harris Teeter, Pick ‘n Save, Metro Market, Mariano’s, Fred Meyer, Dillons Marketplace, Fry’s Marketplace, King Soopers Marketplace, Kroger Marketplace, Smith’s Marketplace, Food 4 Less, and Foods Co.

Cougar1978

There is no reason CAC green bean logo should not be on the CACG holder. Prefer it there. There are a number of reasons it should be on the holder.

I prefer the CACG material to the stickered material. My offer higher for the CACG.

messydesk

@oreville said:
Oh now we have CAC 1.0 and CAC 2.0.

Following SemVer, we have CAC 1.0.1. No functionality was added and the slab is backward compatible with the previous ones.

oreville

@messydesk said:

@oreville said:
Oh now we have CAC 1.0 and CAC 2.0.

Following SemVer, we have CAC 1.0.1. No functionality was added and the slab is backward compatible with the previous ones.

What is SemVer?

messydesk

@oreville said:

@messydesk said:

@oreville said:
Oh now we have CAC 1.0 and CAC 2.0.

Following SemVer, we have CAC 1.0.1. No functionality was added and the slab is backward compatible with the previous ones.

What is SemVer?

Semantic Versioning. From the sermver.org website (with my comments about applying it to TPG slabs)

Given a version number MAJOR.MINOR.PATCH, increment the:

MAJOR version when you make incompatible API changes (such as the size and shape of the slab or a break in the grade guarantee across versions)
MINOR version when you add functionality in a backward compatible manner (such as adding a QR code or RFID chip or other additional information, minor holder changes that remain stacking-compatible with older ones, perhaps a major overhaul in label design to improve legibility and user experience)
PATCH version when you make backward compatible bug fixes (adding CAC to the grade, minor slab label layout change)