Ebay authenticity question
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If customer requests me to send Ebay auction direct to them and bypass the Ebay Authentication is that ok? Am I covered since I can show the emails from the buyer via Ebay messages showing that he requested to mail to him?
-Claude
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Is that ok? You don't even get the customer's address except in messaging which it could be possible fraud with a stolen credit card. You can do it if you "trust" the guy, but you're more likely to feel like an idiot when you are out the card and the money...... But yes, it is ok if it's not fraud and the "buyer" doesn't open any kind of dispute.
I would cancel the sale and invoice them directly through paypal if they want to do that. But that's me.
For a multitude of reasons, I doubt that would work out well.
Frankly, if is was me, I'd block the buyer and move on.
There's what, around 20 million or whatever is the number, other potential Ebay buyers out there. I sure don't need the aggravation or possible negative repercussions to make any sale.
Good luck however you decide.
I'd send it to be authenticated. I don't understand why anybody would block the buyer at this point. A buyer asking a question shouldn't aggravate you.
Because it’s a scam
Before the sale switch the card to unauthenticated and it will bypass sending it to PSA. The process is BS to begin with, they don't authenticate or guarantee the signature. It's stated when you get the card back from PSA.
I block buyers at even the very hint of aggravation. Why? Because if ya don't, there's almost always more aggravation coming.
Who's talking about signatures?
I've had people ask me the same question. I just tell them no.
If the guy has already paid, why wouldn't you send the card. You know you're covered. Because, sending the card to the authentication company; it's on eBay once the authentication company get's it.
I had a bad experience with a buyer after a card had gone through the auth program. If it wasn’t for PSA stepping up I would have been out $500 to this particular scammer. In the end eBay was only out the $$$.
But I guess, most of the time, and especially had I not had that experience, I would do as you say and ignore them and ship to tc2.
I used to require 20 feedback before I would accept offers. This particular guy had 26. Now I’m looking for 50+.
Has anyone sold multiple items in one auction? I sold a PSA card with pennants and books and was told to ship all to authenticator.
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As someone who has sent a few hundred cards through the authentication program, there are no good reasons to bypass the authentication program - except for maybe getting the card a couple days faster - but the benefits outweigh the time factor.
As a seller, you are protected against scammer buyers saying they got a different card, didn't get the card, wrong condition, etc.
As a buyer, you are protected against scammer sellers sending you an empty box, a completely different card, a card with flaws that were not described, etc.
Anyone who says they dislike the authentication program either does not fully understand why it is in use, is impatient, or wants to scam someone.
I would only go through authentication. this sounds like a scam waiting to happen.
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Make sure to only send to the address that eBay provides otherwise your Not covered by eBay
I would like for the buyer to have the option. Disclaimer right on the page absolving itself of all claims. Ebay then has a record that the buyer CHOSE not to send it through the process. I'm not sure who is benefiting from this situation as it is now. I wonder if this affects the sellers of raw cards often?
"You've gotta be a man to play this game...but you'd better have a lot of little boy in you, too"--Roy Campanella
As a buyer who has had at least 20 raw cards go through the process I've absolutely hated eBay's authentication program for ungraded cards since it's inception not because of impatience or fully understanding the program but rather the unnecessary extra handling of high-end (oftentimes irreplaceable rare) raw cards by a middle man of whom I never gave permission to do so.
Besides the unnecessary handling, when it comes to reholdering/repackaging eBay seems to think Card Savers are a one-size-fits-all holder for every kind of card out there including extra thick cards which on one occasion led to eBay refunding me for a 1/1 patch card they eventually admitted to damaging (the Card Saver crushed the corners).
I've also had a couple instances where eBay supposedly received a card damaged (one time it was a brand new 1/1 Superfractor) and, being there isn't much transparency on eBay's end as to how cards are received and how they actually handle cards during authentication, it can become a "he said, she said" type of situation where you just have to blindly take eBay's word for it being you didn't receive the card directly from the seller. . .
In the end, I totally understand why the program is in place as it's intent is to curb fraud.
However, during the 20 years I'd been active on eBay before the program started I never once had to take out my phone and call eBay's customer service. Since the program started, though, I've lost count how many times I've had to call and complain about eBay's improper reholdering/repackaging process.
By the way, to avoid the program altogether all you have to do is switch the listing category from "single" to "lot" as only single cards are eligible for the program. . .
Kory
They put the policy in place to prevent people from saying they received fake or damaged cards. It's there to prevent buyer and seller fraud. It doesn't really make sense to let people opt to bypass the fraud protections. I'm not sure why anybody would have a problem with the process.
"Am I covered since I can show the emails from the buyer via Ebay messages showing that he requested to mail to him?"
I'm not 100% sure about Ebay, but I also sell on Amazon. On Amazon, any info emailed between buyer-seller as far as judgment with disputes, doesn't matter. Everything defaults back to Amazon rules. I would think that Ebay probably does it the same way.
Fortunately Ebay is a better venue for sellers than Amazon, enabling a seller to often prevent problems before they begin if ya know how to work it right.
And when you are dealing with what turns out to be credit card fraud, the messages are fraudulent as well, so NO.....