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Question on PSA e-mail ?

When PSA send you a request asking for more funds for a submission, do you know the grade?
Lets say you send in a card for grading at $39 and PSA the comes back requesting $499 ?

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    82FootballWaxMemorys82FootballWaxMemorys Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 15, 2024 4:27AM

    or have they not graded it and feel the card should be under that higher priced tier based on the PSA 10 FMV ? Then the grade is 4, 5 or 6 and the card's FMV is only $50 you are out $450+

    It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972)

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    nam812nam812 Posts: 10,553 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 15, 2024 6:19AM

    @FredJRI said:
    When PSA send you a request asking for more funds for a submission, do you know the grade?
    Lets say you send in a card for grading at $39 and PSA the comes back requesting $499 ?

    I guess it could mean that you submitted it at the wrong service level initially, but usually when you get that email it means that the value of the card has risen higher than the service level you chose because of the grade it has received. I'm not sure if the grade is known to the submitter yet at that point since I've never gotten that email, but I do not think it is revealed yet to the submitter at the time of that email.

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    bgrbgr Posts: 521 ✭✭✭

    You can probably assume the grade in many cases but it’s before grades are available.

    You get an email that says it does not qualify for the service level due to the graded card value.

    Once I asked them what comps they used and they told me. Then I knew the exact grade.

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    HarnessracingHarnessracing Posts: 341 ✭✭✭

    It they are telling you it’s an upgrade then pay it and be thankful.
    They usually tell you the grade. If was submitted at an incorrect level is a different story

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    mintonlyplsmintonlypls Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 15, 2024 8:32AM

    I would think you did not submit at the correct service level as others have stated…and does not mean it is a higher grade than you expected or has been graded already.

    mint_only_pls
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    bgrbgr Posts: 521 ✭✭✭

    I've never received an email from PSA regarding an upcharge for the grade or a CRC 'problem order' issue that wasn't clear to me what they were 'on about'. I'm hopeful this was just a hypothetical. ;)

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    FredJRIFredJRI Posts: 167 ✭✭

    It was my first submittal , a 86 Jordan Fleer RC which I submitted for 20 day service at $39.
    I got an e-mail back saying that they needed a couple hundred extra to complete the grading.
    I was wondering when i would find out the grade?
    Was supposed to be returned this week now they are saying June 12th?
    I assume I undervalued it. I'm still learning the system here at PSA.
    If I paid $499 for getting the card graded on my submission and it came back a PSA 1
    would they tell me it's only $79 or so ?

    Fred

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    FredJRIFredJRI Posts: 167 ✭✭

    @Harnessracing said:
    It they are telling you it’s an upgrade then pay it and be thankful.
    They usually tell you the grade. If was submitted at an incorrect level is a different story

    ,

    That is the case, but I don't know the grade .. when and where can I find out the grade?

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    bgrbgr Posts: 521 ✭✭✭

    Respond to the email and ask them what they used to comp. Or just pay the upcharge and be happy. The $499 is super-express for non-members right? So that means up to $5K value right. That is probably meaning it's a 6 or 7 I suppose, but just ask if you want to know. They will tell you.

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    FredJRIFredJRI Posts: 167 ✭✭

    If they know the grade already why will it take 4 more weeks for the card to be sent back ?

    I'll just a pay and see what happens.

    Thanks

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    FredJRIFredJRI Posts: 167 ✭✭

    Here is another delima

    I have a 2000 Bowman Tom Brady promotion card I picked up in a trade.
    Majority of folks are telling me it's a fake.
    I've done comparisons and can' find any faults.

    Do I send it in for grading as a , about $500 value , 20 days for $39.99 card
    or a about $50,000 value , 5 day at $1,499 ??
    If it is a fake do I get the difference back ( ie. $1,499 - $39.99 ? )
    I don't want "piss away" $1,400 plus dollars.

    I could ask PSA directly, but I've asked the so many questions already before I found the Forum section..lololol
    I'm sure that there is a wealth of knowledge here ..no ?

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    FredJRIFredJRI Posts: 167 ✭✭

    Why would anyone pay $1499 to get a card graded we it can be done for $39 with an upgrade charge if required?
    Time is not of the essence

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    bgrbgr Posts: 521 ✭✭✭

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    FredJRIFredJRI Posts: 167 ✭✭

    WTF was that??

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    FredJRIFredJRI Posts: 167 ✭✭

    Try to stay with the topic..please !!

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    RufussCkingstonRufussCkingston Posts: 1,510 ✭✭✭✭
    edited May 15, 2024 10:44AM

    First off, if you send it at a higher tier and it grades to a lower value (that would have allowed it to be submitted at a lower cost tier) you DO NOT get any money back/get charged less. Part of the service is not just the value, but also the speed at which they grade the card. The more you pay, the faster they grade it..

    As for you Jordan rookie, you had no business sending it in at $39 and a declared value of $500 since the PSA 1 sells for over $1500! So you should have paid at least $75 but more legitimately $120 for 2.5k value. Now if they are asking you to pay $499, then it must be a PSA 8 as a PSA 7 is under $5k, so that would be only $249....

    Now I'm curious what would happen if the card were fake or altered, as the PSA value would be zero, would they let you get away with only $39, when one submits it expecting at least a PSA 1 at $1500 value?

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    RufussCkingstonRufussCkingston Posts: 1,510 ✭✭✭✭

    @FredJRI said:
    Why would anyone pay $1499 to get a card graded we it can be done for $39 with an upgrade charge if required?
    Time is not of the essence

    Because if the submitter believes it has a legitimate chance of grading in the range, should the card get damaged by PSA or lost/damaged on return from PSA, you'd only be covered up to $500 instead of the true value. Even if you get up-charged, you will only get paid out the original DV you declared per the T&C's (but I believe refunded/not charged the grading fee). So it is a gamble in that sense.

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    FredJRIFredJRI Posts: 167 ✭✭

    If you submit as a <50K for $1499 and it is graded <$0.5K for $39 do they charge you the DV or the actual?

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    pdoidoipdoidoi Posts: 516 ✭✭✭

    @FredJRI said:

    @pdoidoi said:

    @FredJRI said:
    Try to stay with the topic..please !!

    Do you get paid per post ?

    STFU

    What ?

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    pdoidoipdoidoi Posts: 516 ✭✭✭

    Is that St. Francis University ?

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    FredJRIFredJRI Posts: 167 ✭✭

    @RufussCkingston said:
    First off, if you send it at a higher tier and it grades to a lower value (that would have allowed it to be submitted at a lower cost tier) you DO NOT get any money back/get charged less. Part of the service is not just the value, but also the speed at which they grade the card. The more you pay, the faster they grade it..

    As for you Jordan rookie, you had no business sending it in at $39 and a declared value of $500 since the PSA 1 sells for over $1500! So you should have paid at least $75 but more legitimately $120 for 2.5k value. Now if they are asking you to pay $499, then it must be a PSA 8 as a PSA 7 is under $5k, so that would be only $249....

    Now I'm curious what would happen if the card were fake or altered, as the PSA value would be zero, would they let you get away with only $39, when one submits it expecting at least a PSA 1 at $1500 value?

    It was my first submission, and I didn't know how it worked. Other than insurance purposes, what is the issue sending in a Jordan RC at $39 vs. $75 or $120, you will pay the upgrading charge? Time is NOT of the essence.

    IIm also curious about a 2000 Bowman Tom Brady promotion card I picked up in a trade.
    Majority of folks are telling me it's a fake.
    I've done comparisons and can' find any faults.

    Do I send it in for grading as a DV $500 value , 20 days for $39.99 card
    or a DV $50,000 value , 5 day at $1,499 ??
    If it is a fake do I get the difference back ( ie. $1,499 - $39.99 ? )
    I don't want "piss away" $1,400 plus dollars.

    Hummm ???

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    Uh-oh. Chivalry has died.

    RIP

    Come on people now. Smile on your brothers.

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    FredJRIFredJRI Posts: 167 ✭✭

    @ElMagoStrikeZone said:
    Uh-oh. Chivalry has died.

    A lot has changed since chivalry was codified – it’s good that it died.
    Just remember, engaging in modern chivalry shouldn’t be about hoping for some reward or feeling somehow honor-bound to an antiquated code of conduct that you read about in some book.
    It should be about doing the right thing.

    Love that song Youngbloods 1967 _ Vietnam

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    FredJRIFredJRI Posts: 167 ✭✭

    @pdoidoi said:
    Is that St. Francis University ?

    Southern Tenant Farmers Union (STFU

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    @FredJRI said:

    @ElMagoStrikeZone said:
    Uh-oh. Chivalry has died.

    A lot has changed since chivalry was codified – it’s good that it died.
    Just remember, engaging in modern chivalry shouldn’t be about hoping for some reward or feeling somehow honor-bound to an antiquated code of conduct that you read about in some book.
    It should be about doing the right thing.

    I've read the code of conduct for this forum. It's not antiquated.

    Come on people now. Smile on your brothers.

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    FredJRIFredJRI Posts: 167 ✭✭

    @ElMagoStrikeZone said:

    @FredJRI said:

    @ElMagoStrikeZone said:
    Uh-oh. Chivalry has died.

    A lot has changed since chivalry was codified – it’s good that it died.
    Just remember, engaging in modern chivalry shouldn’t be about hoping for some reward or feeling somehow honor-bound to an antiquated code of conduct that you read about in some book.
    It should be about doing the right thing.

    I've read the code of conduct for this forum. It's not antiquated.

    Reading and comprehending are two different things :)

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    @FredJRI said:

    @ElMagoStrikeZone said:

    @FredJRI said:

    @ElMagoStrikeZone said:
    Uh-oh. Chivalry has died.

    A lot has changed since chivalry was codified – it’s good that it died.
    Just remember, engaging in modern chivalry shouldn’t be about hoping for some reward or feeling somehow honor-bound to an antiquated code of conduct that you read about in some book.
    It should be about doing the right thing.

    I've read the code of conduct for this forum. It's not antiquated.

    Reading and comprehending are two different things :)

    As are tactical diversion and obedience.

    Come on people now. Smile on your brothers.

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    RufussCkingstonRufussCkingston Posts: 1,510 ✭✭✭✭

    @FredJRI said:

    If it is a fake do I get the difference back ( ie. $1,499 - $39.99 ? )

    I don't want "piss away" $1,400 plus dollars.

    Hummm ???

    NO...... You don't get anything back!

    As for rolling the dice on the "insurance" aspect, I feel there is something in the T&C's with regards to intentionally undervaluing a card's DV when submitting. The assumption is that a card you submit is real, thus you should value it as such, and the min value of the jordan was $1500 in the worst possible condition. With regards to the ROY, you haven't posted any pictures of the actual card (since one you posted was jacked from a eBay listing I found)... I can't find any google links to fake versions of the ROY card, so don't know what to compare it too, but like I said, we still haven't seen your card, assuming your aren't full of Sh*t!! :D

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    FredJRIFredJRI Posts: 167 ✭✭

    @RufussCkingston said:

    @FredJRI said:

    If it is a fake do I get the difference back ( ie. $1,499 - $39.99 ? )

    I don't want "piss away" $1,400 plus dollars.

    Hummm ???

    NO...... You don't get anything back!

    With regards to the ROY, you haven't posted any pictures of the actual card (since one you posted was jacked from a eBay listing I found)... I can't find any google links to fake versions of the ROY card, so don't know what to compare it too, but like I said, we still haven't seen your card, assuming your aren't full of Sh*t!! :D

    If noting back, then no sense to over value and possibly lose money/!! There are several other ways to protect value.
    You like little kid from Missouri,,.lololol
    Why would I lie, I have no one to impress?
    If you are a good little boy I may show you IT !! hee-hee
    Besides you wouldn't know if it was fake or not!!!

    YABA-PITA-DYAWWIS honk-honk

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    craig44craig44 Posts: 10,693 ✭✭✭✭✭

    this is getting weird

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

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    pdoidoipdoidoi Posts: 516 ✭✭✭

    aahhhh yup

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    FredJRIFredJRI Posts: 167 ✭✭

    better believe it !! lololololol

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    azvikeazvike Posts: 361 ✭✭✭

    I love this thread.

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    FredJRIFredJRI Posts: 167 ✭✭

    so do eye..lololol

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    FredJRIFredJRI Posts: 167 ✭✭



    Now STFU.lololoololol

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    FredJRIFredJRI Posts: 167 ✭✭


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    FredJRIFredJRI Posts: 167 ✭✭

    Happy now ? sheesh

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    gorilla glue 4gorilla glue 4 Posts: 124 ✭✭✭

    @FredJRI said:
    Happy now ? sheesh

    Is your wife's name Jenny by any chance?

    How much did it sale for is one of the funniest and most ignorant things I've ever heard.

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    FredJRIFredJRI Posts: 167 ✭✭

    Why do you ask , no ... and she passed away about 7 years ago. :(

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