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Are clad State Quarters graded on a “curve” ?

ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 12,930 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited May 9, 2024 6:12AM in U.S. Coin Forum

This is a TV of the obverse of a top pop MS67 2004-D Low Leaf:

If this coin were dated in the 1940s or even the 1970s it would probably grade MS62. Am I off base here?

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  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 12,930 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Reverse is not much better:

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,071 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Connecticoin said:
    This is a TV of the obverse of a top pop MS67 2004-D Low Leaf:

    If this coin were dated in the 1940s or even the 1970s it would probably grade MS62. Am I off base here?

    Yes. There is no curve. If anything, classic coins are given more slack than moderns.

  • PeakRaritiesPeakRarities Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I know almost nothing about clad coins but from what I understand, you are correct. It seems like these, kennedy halves, and many other moderns are graded on a curve. I figure alot of those marks are just unstruck planchet because the clad is alot harder to mold than silver.

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  • HIGHLOWLEAVESHIGHLOWLEAVES Posts: 790 ✭✭✭

    Great Subject and an interesting Wi. Extra Low Leaf Quarter shown as graded MS 67. IMO, these scarce die manipulated State Quarters were graded easy or tough based on which of the coin grading companies had graded them. Again, IMO, the Extra Leaf Quarters that were graded in the early months following Bob Ford's Discovery were graded on the soft side. And as the prices rose dramatically in 2006, several companies may have tightened up. Simply an observation. I think that it is good to have these coins professionally graded. If you are dissatisfied with the final certified grade, then simply resubmit the coin.

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,493 ✭✭✭✭✭

    no, moderns don't get sympathy points

    and those aren't un-struck-out marks on the planchet.

    lots of finds to be had of over and under graded coins

    there is the rare possibility of a group sub of the same and TV are switched. then there's the 7 is right above the 4.

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,493 ✭✭✭✭✭

    the above was also lifted from coinfacts

    drum roll

    66+ (not even close)

    yes, there are some bad grades given out there

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  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 12,930 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It just seems the highest grade in this "class" was a 65 , and PCGS awarded the > @MsMorrisine said:

    the above was also lifted from coinfacts

    drum roll

    66+ (not even close)

    yes, there are some bad grades given out there

    The Cow was "branded" several times on that one! :D:D

  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 12,930 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @HIGHLOWLEAVES said:
    Great Subject and an interesting Wi. Extra Low Leaf Quarter shown as graded MS 67. IMO, these scarce die manipulated State Quarters were graded easy or tough based on which of the coin grading companies had graded them. Again, IMO, the Extra Leaf Quarters that were graded in the early months following Bob Ford's Discovery were graded on the soft side. And as the prices rose dramatically in 2006, several companies may have tightened up. Simply an observation. I think that it is good to have these coins professionally graded. If you are dissatisfied with the final certified grade, then simply resubmit the coin.

    You may be on to something. I looked at a few random 67s that are not WI high/lows and they look better. So the "curve" may be specific to the WI high/lows.

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