Nothing changes but the seasons and the manager providing the quote
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It frustrated Scioscia and Madden to no end. Nevin didn't seem to have the clout to say anything. Now Washington gets a chance to taste it.
Trouty is the biggest fraud in sports. He's the easiest out in the game when the pressure is the greatest. Everyone in the ballpark, including Trouty, know what the pitcher is going to throw, and where, and Trouty just stands there taking strike after strike after strike.
I wonder if this has ever been discussed on the forum before? 🤔 🤷🏻♂️😉
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What are the statistics on his performance as the final out of the game in a losing effort?
It’s either true or false whether he’s a liability in pressure situations.
I agree completely as to the concept of “going down swinging”
I would also be curious of his performance in the final 3 outs and final 6 outs of those losing efforts.
It never stops being funny.
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Another great manager's quote:
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In case you forgot about what happened in Boston:.
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I've been telling this forum since 2017 that Trouty is a fraud that chokes under pressure, and totally unplayable in close games after the 6th inning. You're better off telling some schmuck on the end of the bullpen bench to grab a bat and get in the box, rather than depend on Trouty to come through for you. It still remains true.
I am still curious what the data says.
I've seen nearly every at bat of Trouty's career. I don't need stats to tell me what my eyes see.
But this is interesting...
The 3 biggest games of Trouty's career, Game 2 and Game 3 of the 2014 ALDS and the Final of the 2023 World Baseball Classic, the final out of all 3 games was made by Trouty on a swing and miss strikeout. The guy whose recognized superpower is getting on base, couldn't get on base to extend the game. Couldn't even put the ball in play.
So to answer your question, this data seems to indicate that 100% of the time, when the situation is critical for his team, Trouty sucks!
Failing 7 out of 10 times gets you in the HOF
Othani was the pitcher for Japan in WBC at bat. Trout was 22 and the MVP of the league in 2014. The Angels are a bad franchise, stop blaming Trout for it
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
This is a tough place for reason but I’ll give it a chop.
Sabermetrics shows that there is a low correlation between batting average with runners on base and wins. On the surface I agree this seems counter-intuitive but when you did into what does influence wins it does unwind a bit - but not completely.
I’ve seen many posts here dismissing sabermetrics so I sense it’s not popular. In those posts the author usually follows up their dismissal with a statement of their ignorance as to what it actually intends to do. It’s purely a study of outcomes. Whether outcomes are useful in predicting future results is left to choice.
The offensive statistics which produce a low correlation are: OPS, ISO, and wOBA.
The offensive statistic that produces the highest correlation. This one might be obvious. WAR. Further wRC and wRC+ which do add some opacity to the analysis produce a strong correlation to wins.
Trout sits at 107th in baseball history in wRC. Pretty good but not great perhaps.
I’m definitely going to have to think about how to attack this better. If someone wants to check my math baseball reference is where I grabbed my stats.
If you look at Trout from 2012 - 2019 he’s in top 10.
They used to cry about Ted Williams. Called him "selfish". Said he wouldn't change his approach at the plate to drive in runs.
Trout's leading the league in HR and has a 156OPS+ & .580SLG.
Must be doing something right.
He's even stolen 5 bases and been caught only once.
The 2 for 22 is a valid comment in regards to helping winning or not for this year. His Men on batting (in any measurement) this year has been bad in the early going.
His overall Run Expectancy is -0.8, which includes all of his home runs and poor performance with men on base.
He will most likely improve that 2 for 22 as the season evens out, but in the end, his Run Expectancy will include that all. So will his Win Probability.
Trout has earned some of this scorn. He needs to play more and he seems too content on playing for a team with no chance of winning.
Trout could earn some more fans if he grabbed Rendon by the neck and told him "get your P*&@y a@s on the field and start earning some of that money!"