Tiffany Money Collecting!

Zoins

Wonderful Tiffany Money from the Dick Johnson Collection!

This can't have been easy to put together!

I had intended to bid and it was in my watch list, but was too busy to notice when the auction went off!

Byers

Interesting group!

johnny9434

I'd love to take a better look at that 150 one in the center

PhilArnold

Speaking of which, check out this latest offering at GreatCollections!
https://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/1578502/2022-Gold-TiffCoin-by-Tiffany-amp-Co-PCGS-MS-67-268-of-499-with-Original-Packaging-Certificate-amp-Folio

Zoins

@PhilArnold said:
Speaking of which, check out this latest offering at GreatCollections!
https://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/1578502/2022-Gold-TiffCoin-by-Tiffany-amp-Co-PCGS-MS-67-268-of-499-with-Original-Packaging-Certificate-amp-Folio

Thanks for posting @PhilArnold! Great token!

Looks like it's .75 fine gold and has a new modern T symbol!

MsMorrisine

MsMorrisine

i'd be interested to know the weight

MsMorrisine

our own @coinsarefun has some tiffany money

would have like to get some examples in silver as shown, but not at 10k interest as shown in gold

Zoins

@MsMorrisine said:

I can't find the entry when searching for "coin"

https://www.tiffany.com/search/?q=coin

Is it sold out?

Here's a page for TiffCoin but it doesn't have any information on ordering. This one seems to be more of a medal (than a token like the older ones) as this says these can't be spent.

Tiffany said:
TiffCoin

No, we’re not launching our own cryptocurrency. But these very real limited-release 18k gold coins are a modern version of our Tiffany Money and celebration of our history. Tiffany Money was silver and gold coins that could be exchanged for Tiffany jewelry back in the day. You can’t spend these TiffCoins…but why would you want to?

https://www.tiffany.com/stories/guide/tiffcoin/

sellitstore

This is Tiffany Money as far as I'm concerned:

Zoins

@sellitstore said:
This is Tiffany Money as far as I'm concerned:

Very cool! Do we know the names of the brothers in Tiffany Bros. of Buffalo, NY?

wev

@Zoins said:

@sellitstore said:
This is Tiffany Money as far as I'm concerned:

Very cool! Do we know the names of the brothers in Tiffany Bros. of Buffalo, NY?

Oscar and Nelson.

MetroD

@Zoins said:
I can't find the entry when searching for "coin"

https://www.tiffany.com/search/?q=coin

Is it sold out?
[...]

Back in 2022,

Source: https://nationaljeweler.com/articles/10790-tiffany-runs-with-april-fool-s-joke-again

Edited to Add: the GC link from PA indicates that it actually sold out in "a few hours".

291fifth

@PhilArnold said:
Speaking of which, check out this latest offering at GreatCollections!
https://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/1578502/2022-Gold-TiffCoin-by-Tiffany-amp-Co-PCGS-MS-67-268-of-499-with-Original-Packaging-Certificate-amp-Folio

Boring design.

Zoins

@MetroD said:

@Zoins said:
I can't find the entry when searching for "coin"

https://www.tiffany.com/search/?q=coin

Is it sold out?
[...]

Back in 2022,

Source: https://nationaljeweler.com/articles/10790-tiffany-runs-with-april-fool-s-joke-again

Great article!

Here's an excerpt focusing on the coin. Read the article for more on the April Fool's 2022 part:

Lenore Fedow said:
The TiffCoin is real, but it’s not cryptocurrency. The company released 499 physical 18-karat gold coins, individually numbered and engraved with a Tiffany “T.”

The coins were made available for purchase online for 24 hours only, from April 2 to 3, to customers in the United States, Canada, the U.K. and Australia.

The limited-edition coins are a callback to “Tiffany Money,” silver and gold coins that could be exchanged for Tiffany jewelry once upon a time.

Retailing for $9,999, the coins can’t be spent, but will give holders access to exclusive Tiffany events.

More from a HypeBeast article, which Lenore links to:

HypeBeast said:
Reviving a historical currency the label used from 1973 through to 2007 — both a silver and gold coin was used as a currency in exchange for jewelry — Tiffany & Co. announces a limited edition version of the currency.

Sold in a limited run of 499, these real TiffCoins are made from 18K yellow gold and are 34.8mm in diameter and 2.8mm thick. ​Priced at $9,999 USD, the coins come stamped with a T insignia and are each numbered. Those interested can find them over at the Tiffany & Co. website for a limited time.

Source: https://hypebeast.com/2022/4/tiffany-co-tiffany-money-cryptocurrency-tiffcoin-april-fools-day-real-gold-coin-release

Zoins

@wev said:

@Zoins said:

@sellitstore said:
This is Tiffany Money as far as I'm concerned:

Very cool! Do we know the names of the brothers in Tiffany Bros. of Buffalo, NY?

Oscar and Nelson.

Thanks for the names!

If these were done in the 1870s, then the brothers would have been in their 30s.

Nelson Otis Tiffany (1842 - 1917)

Ref: https://www.geni.com/people/Nelson-Tiffany/6000000077453816060

Oscar Fitzallen Tiffany (1840 - ?)

Ref: https://www.geni.com/people/Oscar-Tiffany/6000000077454066971

The following is a biography of Nelson through the 1900s which doesn't indicate the printing business.

WikiTree hosted:
Married, in Buffalo, N. Y., January 23, 1868, Julia Charlotte Chase (b. Buffalo, N. Y., September 28, 1843 ; d. there February 20, 1891), dau. of Wesley Chase and Dolly Ann Bush. After his mother's death, Mr. Tiffany was assigned to her brother, for whom he worked until he was seventeen, when he started out for himself, having a hard time for a number of years. Appreciating the value of an education, he studied by himself. He went to Buffalo and worked for Wesley Chase & Son, furniture dealers. He soon became superintendent, and finally married the daughter of his employer. Mr. Tiffany then went to Chicago as superintendent for A. H. Andrews & Co., extensive manufacturers of school and church furniture. His strength gave way, and he returned to Buffalo, where he went into the sewing machine business, later managing an office in New York City. He then returned to Buffalo and took a scholarship in the medical department of the University of Buffalo. After a year of study, he was urged to take the secretaryship and general management of the Masonic Life Association of Western New York, which he has built up most successfully. He retains this position at the present time, 1900, having served in this capacity for more than sixteen years. He took a deep interest in the publication of this work, and, after several interviews with Mr. Charles L. Tiffany, who proposed and started the genealogy, he agreed to carry the work forward, so that the data gathered, on which so much labor and money had been spent, should not be lost to the family, leaving its elaboration and completion to a future generation. In view of his connection with this work, his portrait appears therein.

Zoins

I took a look at the TiffCoin GreatPhotos a bit more and was impressed to see many other creative photos for this coin and OIP (Original Issue Packaging).

Kudos to @PhilArnold and @ianrussell for really taking auction photos to another level!

PerryHall

I'm surprised the gold content isn't included in the description of this so-called coin.

Zoins

@PerryHall said:
I'm surprised the gold content isn't included in the description of this so-called coin.

Agreed!

Calling @ianrussell! Gold content would be a very useful addition to the lot description for this item!

Auction: https://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/1578502/2022-Gold-TiffCoin-by-Tiffany-amp-Co-PCGS-MS-67-268-of-499-with-Original-Packaging-Certificate-amp-Folio

PerryHall

@Zoins said:

@PerryHall said:
I'm surprised the gold content isn't included in the description of this so-called coin.

Agreed!

Calling @ianrussell! Gold content would be a very useful addition to the lot description for this item!

Auction: https://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/1578502/2022-Gold-TiffCoin-by-Tiffany-amp-Co-PCGS-MS-67-268-of-499-with-Original-Packaging-Certificate-amp-Folio

Weigh it on a scale and multiply by 0.75. What could be easier? They may not want to mention the weight because I'm guessing the melt value is well below the asking price.

ianrussell

There's no asking price - it's an unreserved auction.

18k yellow gold weighing 38.7 grams (AGW = 0.93 Oz.). This was added to the description.

MsMorrisine

my screenshot is linked from an article

notice the $9,999 price tag

DCW

Was watching that lot at Stacks and wondering if Stefanie was going to go after it. Some interesting pieces in it.
Sold for $780. A bargain?

Zoins

@DCW said:
Was watching that lot at Stacks and wondering if Stefanie was going to go after it. Some interesting pieces in it.
Sold for $780. A bargain?

Agree. I wonder who picked it up?

Calling @coinsarefun

coinsarefun

@Zoins said:

@DCW said:
Was watching that lot at Stacks and wondering if Stefanie was going to go after it. Some interesting pieces in it.
Sold for $780. A bargain?

Agree. I wonder who picked it up?

Calling @coinsarefun

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I’m actively purchasing coins as most here know my health has not been the best……but I’m hanging in there!
I’m not so sure it’s a bargain price. What might bring the value up is the error one.

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I have the Twenty Five, Fifty and One hundred
What little information on these is scarce I have found out that serial numbers on them were spent.
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I haven’t had the Twenty imaged and graded yet.They are silver
I will haven't sent in the Fifty yet. It too has a serial number. These are also silver
And, I’m waiting on the Hundred dollar image and grade. These are silver with gold gilt. Some only silver
To find a hundred coin with a serial number is severely difficult
If I get the Hundred soon I will post the truview.
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I have noticed they do go for higher than I thought they would be but I couldn’t refuse.
If it’s weird(cool looking) and toned I try buying them

PS….i did manage to buy a few very cool ones and will post those soon.

Zoins

@coinsarefun said:

@Zoins said:

@DCW said:
Was watching that lot at Stacks and wondering if Stefanie was going to go after it. Some interesting pieces in it.
Sold for $780. A bargain?

Agree. I wonder who picked it up?

Calling @coinsarefun

I’m actively purchasing coins as most here know my health has not been the best……but I’m hanging in there!
I’m not so sure it’s a bargain price. What might bring the value up is the error one.

I have the Twenty Five, Fifty and One hundred
What little information on these is scarce I have found out that serial numbers on them were spent.

I haven’t had the Twenty imaged and graded yet.They are silver
I will haven't sent in the Fifty yet. It too has a serial number. These are also silver
And, I’m waiting on the Hundred dollar image and grade. These are silver with gold gilt. Some only silver
To find a hundred coin with a serial number is severely difficult
If I get the Hundred soon I will post the truview.

I have noticed they do go for higher than I thought they would be but I couldn’t refuse.
If it’s weird(cool looking) and toned I try buying them

PS….i did manage to buy a few very cool ones and will post those soon.

Great to hear from you Stef! You have a great eye and wonderful pieces!

I agree the error is really neat and might drive up the value.

sellitstore

This one didn't sell for much but it looks cleaned. Details grade?
https://invaluable.com/auction-lot/tiffany-co-25-sterling-silver-coin-w-box-91-c-2f6433090f?objectID=189045134&algIndex=upcoming_lots_lotNumber_asc_prod&queryID=a82c23cf97011e4d06794db23d101311

Pioneer1

@sellitstore said:
This is Tiffany Money as far as I'm concerned:

In collecting Tiffany & Co (excluding jewelry, watches, and lamps)... I find their historical award medals ....

... this pair being particularly nice and referencing Pittsburgh PA and their Art Scene... and HK-593a ...

... oddly satisfying to own.. given how much money their historical items are worth. One time I was in a Tiffany & Co store in California, and the manager pulled me aside to show me his collection of Tiffany & Co medals, which I found super cool ...

MsMorrisine

those are awesome! me want

Zoins

@Zoins said:

@PhilArnold said:
Speaking of which, check out this latest offering at GreatCollections!
https://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/1578502/2022-Gold-TiffCoin-by-Tiffany-amp-Co-PCGS-MS-67-268-of-499-with-Original-Packaging-Certificate-amp-Folio

Thanks for posting @PhilArnold! Great token!

Looks like it's .75 fine gold and has a new modern T symbol!

Just to cap this off, this closed at $14,883.75 on GC!

Zoins

@Pioneer1 said:

@sellitstore said:
This is Tiffany Money as far as I'm concerned:

In collecting Tiffany & Co (excluding jewelry, watches, and lamps)... I find their historical award medals ....

... this pair being particularly nice and referencing Pittsburgh PA and their Art Scene... and HK-593a ...

... oddly satisfying to own.. given how much money their historical items are worth. One time I was in a Tiffany & Co store in California, and the manager pulled me aside to show me his collection of Tiffany & Co medals, which I found super cool ...

Amazing pieces @Pioneer1! Love the classic Minerva design on these!

finer9

I have a $1k face Tiffany Dollars 18k coin. Not the newer TiffCoins, the older ones that were like gift certificates made from 73 to 06

I dint see many around and cant find out where/when they were made or how many. Also cant find too many recent sales. The melt value is around $2500 but the Tiffany name and seeming rarity has me wondering. Do I auction it? Grade it?

JBK

@finer9 said:
I have a $1k face Tiffany Dollars 18k coin. Not the newer TiffCoins, the older ones that were like gift certificates made from 73 to 06

I dint see many around and cant find out where/when they were made or how many. Also cant find too many recent sales. The melt value is around $2500 but the Tiffany name and seeming rarity has me wondering. Do I auction it? Grade it?

I would not expect that these were made in 1973, 1974, or most of 1975, before the gold ban was lifted. Perhaps they were used outside of the US?

I know very little about these but if you were looking to sell I'd assume grading and auctioning with a major auction house would be best.

MsMorrisine

does it have the purity on it? what's it weigh?

PerryHall

@MsMorrisine said:
does it have the purity on it? what's it weigh?

Also, what's the diameter and what does the reverse design look like? Will the major grading services grade and slab these tokens?

sellitstore

I've seen three more of these since my last post to this thread nearly a year ago. All were silver and at least two didn't sell for a great premium. Market for the more ordinary ones seems spotty.

finer9

@MsMorrisine said:
does it have the purity on it? what's it weigh?

32g of 18k gold

I agree about grading and auction possibly

finer9

@PerryHall said:

@MsMorrisine said:
does it have the purity on it? what's it weigh?

Also, what's the diameter and what does the reverse design look like? Will the major grading services grade and slab these tokens?

coin measures 1 ¼ inches in diameter and 1/8 inch in depth

Idk about if they will grade. Here is reverse:

MsMorrisine

you could try selling it here on the us coin buy, sell, trade forum on this site. no fee to list. since you are new, expect to be asked to send first and receive payment second

finer9

NGC told me they would and have graded these

MsMorrisine

i can't speak to if there is added value if it is graded vs ungraded

i will say any future purchaser would have ngc's authenticity guarantee. but these may sell to specialists who feel like they can do their own authenticity check.