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OJ Simpson has passed

Alfonz24Alfonz24 Posts: 3,105 ✭✭✭✭✭

Love him or hate him.

Family said he has died from cancer. 76 yo.

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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,845 ✭✭✭✭✭

    All I have to say is he was a phenomenal RB

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,350 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog I agree. a fantastic RB.

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  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,159 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Any bad news?

  • 4Boston4Boston Posts: 318 ✭✭✭

    @stevek said:
    Any bad news?

    Cut it out man. He left you a slice of pizza in his will. Orange you glad ?

  • bgrbgr Posts: 1,872 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's got the Juice?

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  • TheGoonies1985TheGoonies1985 Posts: 5,622 ✭✭✭✭✭

    lolllll

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  • MaywoodMaywood Posts: 2,190 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A man who's life needs to be divided into two parts and viewed accordingly. As a college athlete and NFL player he was unparalleled for almost 15 years, followed by a successful stint in the NFL booth and some time as an actor. Then came 1994 and the worm turned, he's been reviled ever since. There are events where I can say with certainty where I was at and what I was doing when they took place, the reading of the "Not Guilty" verdict is one of those times.

    RIP.

  • Alfonz24Alfonz24 Posts: 3,105 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have some small doubt that he may not have been the actual killer, but I believe with 99.999999% that he was in some way responsible.

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  • bgrbgr Posts: 1,872 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll say this. Parking all your money into Florida property... that's still a classic move! Can't touch this! Right up there with 2003 yards in 14 games.

  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,171 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not unexpected. He deteriorated quickly over the past couple of years. Cancer kills many, many people.

    If you believe in an afterlife, plus heaven and hell, it would be interesting to see OJ Simpson stand before a higher authority and have his life reviewed and judged.

  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 11,885 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Maywood said:
    A man who's life needs to be divided into two parts and viewed accordingly. As a college athlete and NFL player he was unparalleled for almost 15 years, followed by a successful stint in the NFL booth and some time as an actor. Then came 1994 and the worm turned, he's been reviled ever since. There are events where I can say with certainty where I was at and what I was doing when they took place, the reading of the "Not Guilty" verdict is one of those times.

    RIP.

    He allegedly beat his wife on many occasions. The worm "turned" long before the killings.

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  • georgebailey2georgebailey2 Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭

    @Alfonz24 said:
    I have some small doubt that he may not have been the actual killer, but I believe with 99.999999% that he was in some way responsible.

    No doubt.

    A friend of mine told me that some guy wrote a book speculating that his oldest son may have done it. That the son may have some mental issues.
    Nicole did buy 2 pairs of those winter gloves sold exclusively at the NYC Bloomingdale's (of which 264 pairs were sold, not all x-large), which are probably the only two pairs in the LA metro area. Perhaps the 2nd pair was a gift for the son? And perhaps his son also wore a size 12 shoe and was gifted those ugly Bruno Mali shoes?

    Unlikely, but......"Hey son, I have a favor to ask."

    Naah...couldn't be.

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Brick said:
    RIH

    I'll second that.

  • bgrbgr Posts: 1,872 ✭✭✭✭✭

    RIH?

  • MCMLVToppsMCMLVTopps Posts: 4,860 ✭✭✭✭✭

    OVERWHELMING evidence
    UNDERWHELMING results

    RIP Nicole and Ron

  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,171 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My wife attended high school with Nicole Brown. My wife was in her senior year and Nicole Brown was in her freshman year. My wife recalls that during that year both went to the same school that Nicole Brown was a social butterfly who liked the party lifestyle. I understand that she met OJ and started hanging out with him when she was 18 years old (and he was in his 30's at the latter stages of his NFL career).

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,845 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 11, 2024 3:03PM

    I remember being at a bar hanging out and watching the white bronco being chased by multiple police on a TV

    I remember it well

  • georgebailey2georgebailey2 Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭
    edited April 11, 2024 3:28PM

    @perkdog said:
    I remember being at a bar hanging out and watching the white bronco being chased by multiple police on a TV

    I remember it well

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  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,703 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:
    I remember being at a bar hanging out and watching the white bronco being chased by multiple police on a TV

    I remember it well

    Yes, same here..they broke into Knicks and Rockets finals game with the coverage. 1994 was a great year at MSG for the Rangers, too.



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  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,703 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bgr said:
    RIH?

    Use your imagination.



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  • dallasactuarydallasactuary Posts: 4,373 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This is for you @thisistheshow - Jim Rice was actually a pretty good player.
  • GrooGroo Posts: 242 ✭✭✭

    @bgr said:
    RIH?

    "Rot in He..."

  • MaywoodMaywood Posts: 2,190 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 12, 2024 4:46AM

    @perkdog said: I remember being at a bar hanging out and watching the white bronco being chased by multiple police on a TV.

    Hey perk, I have that exact same memory, after work and suckin' on a Molson Golden while the chase went on. I've searched my memory and I'm relatively sure we weren't in the same bar.

    To my comment above about OJ, I would hope nobody reads it as being supportive of him. That whole thing was a tragedy that affected a lot of people. I only think it bears looking at his life as a whole..The inevitable comparison, if we're being honest with ourselves, is with Ray Lewis. Examine those circumstance and compare them with the Brown/Goldman murders.

    OJ Simpson is excoriated for the remainder of his life. Ray Lewis is taken back into the NFL where he continues his life and winds up in the NFL HOF not to far from OJ.

    You can't make this shit up. o:)

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,350 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My question is, how many detectives have been on the Nicole and Ron murder case since 94? OJ got acquitted, so the real murderer must still be out there. right...

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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,845 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 12, 2024 4:59AM

    @Maywood said:
    @perkdog said: I remember being at a bar hanging out and watching the white bronco being chased by multiple police on a TV.

    Hey perk, I have that exact same memory, after work and suckin' on a Molson Golden while the chase went on. I've searched my memory and I'm relatively sure we weren't in the same bar.

    To my comment above about OJ, I would hope nobody reads it as being supportive of him. That whole thing was a tragedy that affected a lot of people. I only think it bears looking at his life as a whole..The inevitable comparison, if we're being honest with ourselves, is with Ray Lewis. Examine those circumstance and compare them with the Brown/Goldman murders.

    OJ Simpson is excoriated for the remainder of his life. Ray Lewis is taken back into the NFL where he continues his life and winds up in the NFL HOF not to far from OJ.

    You can't make this shit up. o:)

    Yes I was at Michaels restaurant and bar, I don't remember a guy nearby with full on Browns and Ohio State apparel on so no I don't think we were at the same bar lol

    And to your point about OJ, everyone pre 1994 loved the guy, college and NFL legend, TV, in the booth ect he had it all.

    The the tragedy and horrific events unfolded and he turned right into a convict.

    Definitely a tale of 2 lives

  • MaywoodMaywood Posts: 2,190 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said: Definitely a tale of 2 lives

    The images of him at trial and everything that followed are sort of burned into my memory, the tragic image of a fallen hero and a life squandered. Not to mention the victims, ruined lives and people forced to live with the memory of what happened. That whole thing was like some Hollywood movie we watched on TV, sort of like "The Truman Show" if you've seen that movie. It was like reality TV before the genre became popular.

    All that negative stuff notwithstanding, two other images stand out: the airline commercials with OJ running through the airport, the "Naked Gun" clip of Nordburg in the wheelchair.

  • MCMLVToppsMCMLVTopps Posts: 4,860 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Like everyone, I too vividly remember the OJ saga.

    What is burned into my memory was when a "group" of us were gathered around a tv somebody had brought into work that day anticipating a verdict. Well, it was indeed verdict day. I'd say about 15-20 of "us" were there. When the verdict was announced, group "x" cheered wildly, group "y" was jaw drop stunned.

    I remember a dear friend of mine that I worked with over the years. Come to find out she had been abused by her husband for a long time. She hung in their for her 3 kids. In a fit or rage one day, the husband almost hospitalized her after she had confronted him about his womanizing. She told me long afterwards, and I never forgot this "nobody knows what goes on behind closed doors". She finally escaped this madman and got divorced.

    We'll never know why Nicole stayed with this POS. Ron Goldman was just doing her a favor when she asked if he could return her mother's reading glasses she had left at the restaurant Ron worked at.

    MADNESS, SHEER MADNESS

  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,159 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The civil trial afterwards when Simpson was correctly found guilty, says it all that he actually was guilty.

    Goldman's father recently stated that his family hadn't received any money from the civil trial. Despite the fact that Simpson's valuable memorabilia, trophies, etc were confiscated and sold to help pay for the judgement. My guess is probably the trial lawyers scooped up most everything from that.

  • MaywoodMaywood Posts: 2,190 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If you watch enough crime shows, both fiction and non-fiction, one thing should be clear: as casual observers, we never know what went down during Grand Jury proceedings or pre-trial Depositions. Even in a case such as the Simpson trial we never see all the courtroom maneuvering, meetings in-chambers or times when a Judge is ruling on motions or things such as objections at the bench during a trial. The Jury isn't even privy to all that, but still hears more than even someone sitting in the courtroom might hear. We also don't know what Jury instruction might have been.

    All we hear is the sensationalized version of a reporter and their media source, both of whom bring their own bias to what we see, hear and read. I personally thought Simpson was guilty but I was sure glad I wasn't on that Jury.

  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,159 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Maywood said:
    If you watch enough crime shows, both fiction and non-fiction, one thing should be clear: as casual observers, we never know what went down during Grand Jury proceedings or pre-trial Depositions. Even in a case such as the Simpson trial we never see all the courtroom maneuvering, meetings in-chambers or times when a Judge is ruling on motions or things such as objections at the bench during a trial. The Jury isn't even privy to all that, but still hears more than even someone sitting in the courtroom might hear. We also don't know what Jury instruction might have been.

    All we hear is the sensationalized version of a reporter and their media source, both of whom bring their own bias to what we see, hear and read. I personally thought Simpson was guilty but I was sure glad I wasn't on that Jury.

    The fact is that Marcia Clark who was the prosecutor, did a terrible job in a case which should have been a slam dunk guilty verdict.

  • bgrbgr Posts: 1,872 ✭✭✭✭✭

    .> @stevek said:

    The civil trial afterwards when Simpson was correctly found guilty, says it all that he actually was guilty.

    Goldman's father recently stated that his family hadn't received any money from the civil trial. Despite the fact that Simpson's valuable memorabilia, trophies, etc were confiscated and sold to help pay for the judgement. My guess is probably the trial lawyers scooped up most everything from that.

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  • MaywoodMaywood Posts: 2,190 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not defending her or trying to argue, but we don't know how she was instructed by the Judge and how the prosecution was hampered by the Judge. High profile cases are the worst examples of justice. Rulings on motions and such tend to favor the defendant and someone like OJ had money available to him that the prosecution didn't, they were stuck with "budget" constraints I'm sure. OJ had that "Dream Team" and the best lawyers are always hoping to get publicity. Didn't F. Lee Bailey even get on the team??

    Criminal trials are funny if you look at the defense, all the way from a Public Defender who might not have much experience to the best defense money can buy, billion dollar law firms. The prosecution remains stagnant, hardly equitable.

  • GrooGroo Posts: 242 ✭✭✭

    @craig44
    OJ got acquitted, so the real murderer must still be out there. right...

    Not since April 11, 2024

  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,159 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Maywood said:
    Not defending her or trying to argue, but we don't know how she was instructed by the Judge and how the prosecution was hampered by the Judge. High profile cases are the worst examples of justice. Rulings on motions and such tend to favor the defendant and someone like OJ had money available to him that the prosecution didn't, they were stuck with "budget" constraints I'm sure. OJ had that "Dream Team" and the best lawyers are always hoping to get publicity. Didn't F. Lee Bailey even get on the team??

    Criminal trials are funny if you look at the defense, all the way from a Public Defender who might not have much experience to the best defense money can buy, billion dollar law firms. The prosecution remains stagnant, hardly equitable.

    Sorry but I think you're thinking this particular one thru too much. Yes OJ had a team of the top lawyers including F. Lee Bailey. And Marcia Clark did a hiss poor job as prosecutor. However all that being said, in this particular case, there was one reason, and one reason only why OJ was set free. It had to do with social issues prevalent then and now, combined with also being a household name popular celebrity.

    Bottom line - Nobody, and I mean nobody who is innocent, tries to escape like that in that Ford Bronco, with I think it was 10k in cash travel money. Not sure if that evidence was allowed to be presented to the jury or not, but of course the jury must have known about it. Yet the jury still found him innocent. A travesty of justice for sure.

  • GrooGroo Posts: 242 ✭✭✭

    @MCMLVTopps said:
    Like everyone, I too vividly remember the OJ saga.

    What is burned into my memory was when a "group" of us were gathered around a tv somebody had brought into work that day anticipating a verdict. Well, it was indeed verdict day. I'd say about 15-20 of "us" were there. When the verdict was announced, group "x" cheered wildly, group "y" was jaw drop stunned.

    I was on a City/Governmental type location in The Bronx when verdict was read..The reaction was quite a bit celebratory in fact. Most suprisingly was tears of joy from some women!

  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,171 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I know the lawyer representing the Goldman family in the enforcement and collection of the civil judgment filed against OJ. His name is David Cook and he specializes in the enforcement of court judgments. OJ structured his affairs (including moving to Florida to take advantage of its homestead exemption laws which completely shield one's personal residence from your judgment creditors) to make it difficult or practically impossible to collect a judgment. Now that OJ has died the rules change and the Goldmans can make claims against OJ's estate. Of course if the persons in charge of administering OJ's estate (usually relatives) decide to not comply with rules that require payment of claims before estate assets are transferred to those who would inherit same then the Goldman family would have recourse against the persons who received the assets in OJ's estate. That would mean more litigation and the saga will continue.

  • Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 3,634 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @stevek said:

    @Maywood said:
    If you watch enough crime shows, both fiction and non-fiction, one thing should be clear: as casual observers, we never know what went down during Grand Jury proceedings or pre-trial Depositions. Even in a case such as the Simpson trial we never see all the courtroom maneuvering, meetings in-chambers or times when a Judge is ruling on motions or things such as objections at the bench during a trial. The Jury isn't even privy to all that, but still hears more than even someone sitting in the courtroom might hear. We also don't know what Jury instruction might have been.

    All we hear is the sensationalized version of a reporter and their media source, both of whom bring their own bias to what we see, hear and read. I personally thought Simpson was guilty but I was sure glad I wasn't on that Jury.

    The fact is that Marcia Clark who was the prosecutor, did a terrible job in a case which should have been a slam dunk guilty verdict.

    She did and made some big mistakes like the try on the glove, but to be fair he was likely going to be let off no matter what. His defense team played her like a fiddle during jury selection

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  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,159 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Basebal21 said:

    @stevek said:

    @Maywood said:
    If you watch enough crime shows, both fiction and non-fiction, one thing should be clear: as casual observers, we never know what went down during Grand Jury proceedings or pre-trial Depositions. Even in a case such as the Simpson trial we never see all the courtroom maneuvering, meetings in-chambers or times when a Judge is ruling on motions or things such as objections at the bench during a trial. The Jury isn't even privy to all that, but still hears more than even someone sitting in the courtroom might hear. We also don't know what Jury instruction might have been.

    All we hear is the sensationalized version of a reporter and their media source, both of whom bring their own bias to what we see, hear and read. I personally thought Simpson was guilty but I was sure glad I wasn't on that Jury.

    The fact is that Marcia Clark who was the prosecutor, did a terrible job in a case which should have been a slam dunk guilty verdict.

    She did and made some big mistakes like the try on the glove, but to be fair he was likely going to be let off no matter what. His defense team played her like a fiddle during jury selection

    Yes, a lawyer should never allow in court a situation that they call for, whereby they aren't sure if the answer will benefit their client. That's like first week in law school chit that they learn.

    That being said, I agree that California jury ahead of time, was going to find Simpson innocent, almost no matter what evidence was presented. Simpson literally got away with murder.

  • Alfonz24Alfonz24 Posts: 3,105 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Watching Court TV last night, because of the civil trial verdict, OJ did spend over 9 years in jail in an indirect way.

    OJ and friends stormed the Vegas hotel room with guys with the OJ memorabilia which got him convicted. Because of the civil judgement, he couldn't go the legal route as that memorabilia would have went to the Goldmans to make restitution.

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  • It occurred to me, and was mentioned yesterday on local news, that the famous freeway chase in the white Bronco is what spawned an entirely new culture around here, which has yet to lose any traction - the high speed pursuits have become almost a daily event fueled by the very concept that the TV news chasers will turn it into a feature above all others.

    Enjoy the go.

  • bgrbgr Posts: 1,872 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I honestly just kind of ignore the whole thing because it’s embarrassing that our justice system is so ridiculous. Our court system in general. So rest and whatever but I hope this stays in the grave henceforth.

    I even kind of hated that I bought his rookie card for one of my sets and I don’t display it. I also had to argue his defense in a mock trial once. I’m not a fan of the coverage, the trial, or any of the people involved.

  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 9,317 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Jury makeup was the key to victory.

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  • BrickBrick Posts: 4,992 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If I remember correctly, which I do on rare occasions, OJs lawyers had a juror removed because experts they hired felt that juror was probably thinking OJ was guilty.

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  • 4Boston4Boston Posts: 318 ✭✭✭
    edited April 13, 2024 9:14AM

    @BLUEJAYWAY said:
    Jury makeup was the key to victory.

    The Eye liner or lipstick 💄?

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