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Surviving population of 1843-O Seated Quarters

I have been doing some research about 1843-O quarters but many guides seem to lump both the large and small O together. Not even sure if this is a recognized variety? Doesn't seem to be in my Redbook circa 2001, 2009, 2016. Is there a good guide as far as actual surviving population? Also would be curious how other Seated Quarter collectors view this date. Any feedback appreciated. James

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  • seatedlib3991seatedlib3991 Posts: 501 ✭✭✭✭

    Love a coin with a story @291fifth. Sometimes my head just makes up things. For instance, my most recent win is an 1838 Seated Dime with small stars. I can just hear the guy who made the wrong size stars getting chewed out or warned to take a few sick days, lol. James

  • Manifest_DestinyManifest_Destiny Posts: 3,631 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I consider the 43-o a better date but not really scarce. The large O is an interesting variety because it's part of the 1842-43 transition from small to large dates, letters, and mint marks, across many denominations.

    Here's the current coin in my set, VF35.

  • seatedlib3991seatedlib3991 Posts: 501 ✭✭✭✭

    Anyone have a clue as to why the 1842-O small date is the more common coin but then in 1843 the Large date is the rare one? I tried the Newman Portal but I lacked the skills needed there. James

  • CrepidoderaCrepidodera Posts: 269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @seatedlib3991 said:
    Anyone have a clue as to why the 1842-O small date is the more common coin but then in 1843 the Large date is the rare one? I tried the Newman Portal but I lacked the skills needed there. James

    I believe the 1842-O small date is the rare variety.

  • yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 4,594 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 1, 2024 1:08AM

    There is an online copy of the Briggs book, which includes rariety estimates:
    https://www.seateddimevarieties.com/Briggs/chapters.htm

  • Manifest_DestinyManifest_Destiny Posts: 3,631 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This is the large O I used to own but sold it when I downsized the set and got rid of some of the varieties. F12

  • seatedlib3991seatedlib3991 Posts: 501 ✭✭✭✭

    Thanks @yosclimber. I had part of that book saved on my computer but was missing much of the early date info. James

  • rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,615 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 1, 2024 2:56PM

    I have no idea about the surviving population of 1843-O quarters, but it's likely larger than you think due to numerous coins in poor condition that everyone ignores. If one were to try to count the existing 1843-O quarters, I think there would be thousands of damaged and AG-or-less coins out there. You'd never find them all because it's not even worth auctioning something in that grade range, except maybe on Ebay.

    Now if you're talking about AU and Unc. examples of 1843-O, we could probably do an estimate. There aren't that many of this date out the in AU or better. Most of them are probably Details coins, so maybe take the certified population in AU50 or better and multiply it by 3 or 4?

    Here's my PCGS VF35 for fun....

  • HoledandCreativeHoledandCreative Posts: 2,761 ✭✭✭✭✭

    One of the uncounted. This is the only 43-O I have encountered. I am still looking for the other 40 or so that I am missing.

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