Thoughts on this $10 Indian... Updated images.

lkenefic

Seller's Pics...

coinbuf

I'm not good with gold, one reason I like to see a CAC bean on certified gold. Should not be in an unc holder imo and the obv looks a bit off, maybe putty?

MFeld

@coinbuf said:
I'm not good with gold, one reason I like to see a CAC bean on certified gold. Should not be in an unc holder imo and the obv looks a bit off, maybe putty?

I don’t see signs of putty but if the color’s accurate, it’s very unusual and I’d question it.

DelawareDoons

Looks like a 58 but those pics are leaving much to be desired.

blitzdude

Fugly. RGDS!

alaura22

Sorry, not a fan because of the color, something just doesn't look right
Maybe for AU money

coinbuf

@MFeld said:

@coinbuf said:
I'm not good with gold, one reason I like to see a CAC bean on certified gold. Should not be in an unc holder imo and the obv looks a bit off, maybe putty?

I don’t see signs of putty but if the color’s accurate, it’s very unusual and I’d question it.

Thanks for your thoughts Mark, pre 33 gold is an area I am very weak on.

PerryHall

The off color could be from the pic and the lighting used to take it. It looks like it's in a slab. Can we get a pic of the entire slab?

Cougar1978

AU

spyglassdesign

@PerryHall said:
The off color could be from the pic and the lighting used to take it. It looks like it's in a slab. Can we get a pic of the entire slab?

Looks likely a SEGS slab (I've seen a lot of them)... If it's segs assume 2-4 grades too high and possibly damaged somehow (cleaned or otherwise).

dcarr

I could be a nice coin with PVC residue. The only way to know for sure would be to try an acetone treatment.

csdot

10-D is not a rarity, so you should be able to find plenty to choose from for your collection. Personally I would pass, but if this one interests you, your due diligence should include asking for better pictures before pulling any triggers.

jmlanzaf

@MFeld said:

@coinbuf said:
I'm not good with gold, one reason I like to see a CAC bean on certified gold. Should not be in an unc holder imo and the obv looks a bit off, maybe putty?

I don’t see signs of putty but if the color’s accurate, it’s very unusual and I’d question it.

But couldn't the color be due to putty residue?

Kliao

@MFeld said:

@coinbuf said:
I'm not good with gold, one reason I like to see a CAC bean on certified gold. Should not be in an unc holder imo and the obv looks a bit off, maybe putty?

I don’t see signs of putty but if the color’s accurate, it’s very unusual and I’d question it.

How do you determine if there is sign of putty? I know its something to do with the color but I'm not very familiar with it.

PerryHall

@Kliao said:

@MFeld said:

@coinbuf said:
I'm not good with gold, one reason I like to see a CAC bean on certified gold. Should not be in an unc holder imo and the obv looks a bit off, maybe putty?

I don’t see signs of putty but if the color’s accurate, it’s very unusual and I’d question it.

How do you determine if there is sign of putty? I know its something to do with the color but I'm not very familiar with it.

Putty, after it has been on the coin for a while, will turn into a white chalky film sometimes with a bluish tint.

MFeld

@jmlanzaf said:

@MFeld said:

@coinbuf said:
I'm not good with gold, one reason I like to see a CAC bean on certified gold. Should not be in an unc holder imo and the obv looks a bit off, maybe putty?

I don’t see signs of putty but if the color’s accurate, it’s very unusual and I’d question it.

But couldn't the color be due to putty residue?

I suppose so, but I don’t see any associated residue in the pictures.
The color could also be due to cleaning, though I don’t see evidence of that, either.

skier07

It’s an unattractive coin that I would pass on unless the price is right.

291fifth

Poor quality photos that are useless for grading.

PerryHall

@PerryHall said:
It looks like it's in a slab. Can we get a pic of the entire slab?

We're still waiting.

jmlanzaf

@MFeld said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@MFeld said:

@coinbuf said:
I'm not good with gold, one reason I like to see a CAC bean on certified gold. Should not be in an unc holder imo and the obv looks a bit off, maybe putty?

I don’t see signs of putty but if the color’s accurate, it’s very unusual and I’d question it.

But couldn't the color be due to putty residue?

I suppose so, but I don’t see any associated residue in the pictures.
The color could also be due to cleaning, though I don’t see evidence of that, either.

I agree. I'm not saying that it IS putty. But it looks like there is some kind of film or residue on the coin. The specific source of that is harder to ascertain. I once had a coin in hand that had the same pinkish hue that was clearly "puttied", that's the only reason I asked.

MFeld

@jmlanzaf said:

@MFeld said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@MFeld said:

@coinbuf said:
I'm not good with gold, one reason I like to see a CAC bean on certified gold. Should not be in an unc holder imo and the obv looks a bit off, maybe putty?

I don’t see signs of putty but if the color’s accurate, it’s very unusual and I’d question it.

But couldn't the color be due to putty residue?

I suppose so, but I don’t see any associated residue in the pictures.
The color could also be due to cleaning, though I don’t see evidence of that, either.

I agree. I'm not saying that it IS putty. But it looks like there is some kind of film or residue on the coin. The specific source of that is harder to ascertain. I once had a coin in hand that had the same pinkish hue that was clearly "puttied", that's the only reason I asked.

It was certainly a reasonable question. And has been pointed out, the pictures are other than exemplary.

Downtown1974

I’m not sure if that’s the case here, but it’s a great feeling when you take a gamble on the sellers bad pics, and then the coin arrives and turns out be gorgeous in person.

logger7

I'm not impressed by unusual toning on gold as some are, in this case a red flag, but would likely dip out.

johnny010

Looks good

asheland

Looks 58 to me

lkenefic

Updated Pics... still not the best. The dark area in the upper left of the obverse and in the same place on the reverse has to be a lighting issue... I'm still working on this one. I might just try to post a video... and a "reveal" of sorts...

lkenefic

https://youtu.be/9s39Ej2AtPg?feature=shared

lkenefic

Not certain why we don't get an image to click on... just the link... This is the obverse slab shot... OGH MS62...

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/e6gnIasX0fM?feature=share

lkenefic

conrad99

I think it's an attractive coin, though still likely AU.

That area on the obverse which you mentioned seems in the newest photo to display a sort of corduroy effect which I'm not sure I've seen before. It doesn't look like die-polishing lines to me.

I'd still buy it if the premium over melt isn't too big.
But then this is my favorite gold coin design.

csdot

Looks like someone tried to slice that eagle's wings and leg. Plus, the toning (especially how the coloring under the letters is noticeably lighter) is suspect.

Pass.

DelawareDoons

@conrad99 said:
I think it's an attractive coin, though still likely AU.

That area on the obverse which you mentioned seems in the newest photo to display a sort of corduroy effect which I'm not sure I've seen before. It doesn't look like die-polishing lines to me.

I'd still buy it if the premium over melt isn't too big.
But then this is my favorite gold coin design.

It's a defect in the slab plastic. I've seen it in a few generations of this OGH that OP has. Annoying!

jom

Putty around date and above it as an example.

another:

jom

jom

As to the OP coin: Not sure. Could have some hidden hairlines. Color seems bad in the first photo but others are OK. This is a common date so I'd look elsewhere.

jom

conrad99

@DelawareDoons said:

@conrad99 said:
I think it's an attractive coin, though still likely AU.

That area on the obverse which you mentioned seems in the newest photo to display a sort of corduroy effect which I'm not sure I've seen before. It doesn't look like die-polishing lines to me.

I'd still buy it if the premium over melt isn't too big.
But then this is my favorite gold coin design.

It's a defect in the slab plastic. I've seen it in a few generations of this OGH that OP has. Annoying!

Thanks, I learn something new every day.

Is it visible anywhere else on this slab?

DelawareDoons

@conrad99 said:

@DelawareDoons said:

@conrad99 said:
I think it's an attractive coin, though still likely AU.

That area on the obverse which you mentioned seems in the newest photo to display a sort of corduroy effect which I'm not sure I've seen before. It doesn't look like die-polishing lines to me.

I'd still buy it if the premium over melt isn't too big.
But then this is my favorite gold coin design.

It's a defect in the slab plastic. I've seen it in a few generations of this OGH that OP has. Annoying!

Thanks, I learn something new every day.

Is it visible anywhere else on this slab?

Usually just on the parts that are raised over and around the coin. Light hits it at a certain angle and its visible, otherwise not visible. Super noticeable under a loupe.

lkenefic

@DelawareDoons said:

@conrad99 said:
I think it's an attractive coin, though still likely AU.

That area on the obverse which you mentioned seems in the newest photo to display a sort of corduroy effect which I'm not sure I've seen before. It doesn't look like die-polishing lines to me.

I'd still buy it if the premium over melt isn't too big.
But then this is my favorite gold coin design.

It's a defect in the slab plastic. I've seen it in a few generations of this OGH that OP has. Annoying!

This explains a lot! Yes, what I thought might have been some sort of odd toning goes away when I tilt the slab in a slightly different direction. I also seemed "pixelated" ... for lack if a better description...

Jimnight

I like it.