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Silver Dollar Specialist Wayne Miller Is Robbed

TiborTibor Posts: 3,256 ✭✭✭✭✭

Helena, Montana coin dealer Wayne Miller was recently robbed.
The link to details is below.
https://www.ktvh.com/news/thieves-take-56-000-of-silver-dollars-from-downtown-helena-store

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 12,055 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’m very sorry to hear that.

    For the record, it sounds like it was a burglary, not a robbery. While either is bad, a robbery would have been worse.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

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    CatbertCatbert Posts: 6,604 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Awful.

    "Got a flaming heart, can't get my fill"
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    OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 5,827 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 26, 2024 6:50PM

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    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

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    lermishlermish Posts: 1,951 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 26, 2024 6:58PM

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    OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 5,827 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 26, 2024 6:51PM

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    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

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    alaura22alaura22 Posts: 2,663 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sad
    Atleast nobody got hurt...........this time

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 31,969 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @OAKSTAR said:

    @lermish said:

    @OAKSTAR said:
    I today's current environment, lawlessness, inflation, bail reform, a perfect combination. Are you surprised?

    Isn't that the kind of statement that got you banned? Also, this was in Montana, generally considered a pretty tough on crime, Old West type of state.

    So you consider this political?

    Your post borders on the political, not that I care. I'm not in charge, however.

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    OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 5,827 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 27, 2024 12:29PM

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    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 31,969 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @OAKSTAR said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @OAKSTAR said:

    @lermish said:

    @OAKSTAR said:
    I today's current environment, lawlessness, inflation, bail reform, a perfect combination. Are you surprised?

    Isn't that the kind of statement that got you banned? Also, this was in Montana, generally considered a pretty tough on crime, Old West type of state.

    So you consider this political?

    Your post borders on the political, not that I care. I'm not in charge, however.

    Okay, I pulled it down. @lermish probably already reported me!! Didn't you @lermish?

    Why is everyone picking on @lermish tonight?

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    OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 5,827 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 27, 2024 12:29PM

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    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 31,969 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lermish said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @OAKSTAR said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @OAKSTAR said:

    @lermish said:

    @OAKSTAR said:
    I today's current environment, lawlessness, inflation, bail reform, a perfect combination. Are you surprised?

    Isn't that the kind of statement that got you banned? Also, this was in Montana, generally considered a pretty tough on crime, Old West type of state.

    So you consider this political?

    Your post borders on the political, not that I care. I'm not in charge, however.

    Okay, I pulled it down. @lermish probably already reported me!! Didn't you @lermish?

    Why is everyone picking on @lermish tonight?

    I'm sure I deserve it, if not for posts then for some other karmic reason.

    Ah, karma... we may all be in trouble.

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    lermishlermish Posts: 1,951 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @OAKSTAR said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @OAKSTAR said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @OAKSTAR said:

    @lermish said:

    @OAKSTAR said:
    I today's current environment, lawlessness, inflation, bail reform, a perfect combination. Are you surprised?

    Isn't that the kind of statement that got you banned? Also, this was in Montana, generally considered a pretty tough on crime, Old West type of state.

    So you consider this political?

    Your post borders on the political, not that I care. I'm not in charge, however.

    Okay, I pulled it down. @lermish probably already reported me!! Didn't you @lermish?

    Why is everyone picking on @lermish tonight?

    He should just mind his own business.

    On a public message board? I removed my post since you removed yours. I simply asked if that was the type of post that got you banned. I agree with @jmlanzaf that it does border on political. Or at least gets a lot closer than I would if I was banned and reinstated for something of the sort.

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 31,969 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lermish said:

    @OAKSTAR said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @OAKSTAR said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @OAKSTAR said:

    @lermish said:

    @OAKSTAR said:
    I today's current environment, lawlessness, inflation, bail reform, a perfect combination. Are you surprised?

    Isn't that the kind of statement that got you banned? Also, this was in Montana, generally considered a pretty tough on crime, Old West type of state.

    So you consider this political?

    Your post borders on the political, not that I care. I'm not in charge, however.

    Okay, I pulled it down. @lermish probably already reported me!! Didn't you @lermish?

    Why is everyone picking on @lermish tonight?

    He should just mind his own business.

    On a public message board? I removed my post since you removed yours. I simply asked if that was the type of post that got you banned. I agree with @jmlanzaf that it does border on political. Or at least gets a lot closer than I would if I was banned and reinstated for something of the sort.

    He might have just been trying to be helpful... to clean up his karma. 😉

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    Now the bad guys know that he had much better stuff that didn’t get stolen….yet. Why on earth would you put that in a news story?

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    OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 5,827 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 27, 2024 12:30PM

    .

    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

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    BStrauss3BStrauss3 Posts: 3,166 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lermish said:
    I'm sure I deserve it, if not for posts then for some other karmic reason.

    The Karmic Chicken ALWAYS comes home to roost.

    -----Burton
    ANA 50 year/Life Member (now "Emeritus")
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    Steven59Steven59 Posts: 8,294 ✭✭✭✭✭

    " I simply asked if that was the type of post that got you banned. "
    The 1% strikes again.

    "When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"

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    Dave99BDave99B Posts: 8,362 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sorry to hear this. Wayne’s been in business FOREVER. Such a shame.

    Dave

    Always looking for original, better date VF20-VF35 Barber quarters and halves, and a quality beer.
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    @JohnThePainter said:
    Now the bad guys know that he had much better stuff that didn’t get stolen….yet. Why on earth would you put that in a news story?

    Maybe he’s baiting them into trying again. Except this time he’ll be waiting with his “little friend.”

    Having fun while switching things up and focusing on a next level PCGS slabbed 1950+ type set, while still looking for great examples for the 7070.

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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 27,513 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This nummer is always sad to hear

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    Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 8,674 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very sad, but maybe the " extra security measures" shall include CS, dye packs and a claymore. Who isn't attracted to shiny silver dollars. Peace Roy

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    tcollectstcollects Posts: 846 ✭✭✭✭

    I agree with Namvet69, whenever I hear about a burglary like this, my mind goes to perimeter explosives and trap doors with spikes at the bottom

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    Morgan13Morgan13 Posts: 897 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A burglary is such an invasion of one's privacy. Not to say a robbery isn't better
    My point being is that someone was in your home. This would give me fear that they could come back. While it's likely they want that fear would remain.
    I'm glad he is okay.

    Student of numismatics and collector of Morgan dollars
    Successful BST transactions with: Namvet Justindan Mattniss RWW olah_in_MA

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    jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 9,312 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here is some things to consider for us all, directly related to karma.
    Jim


    When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln

    Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
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    yspsalesyspsales Posts: 2,218 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The worst part is when you know the crooks. That is a deeper violation of trust.

    Had six drunk female prison guards from Rikers Island in my Uber ride for about a half hour.

    The stories they told... Prison ain't fun.

    I can only hope the victims find justice.

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    Gun shops have a habit of keeping big dogs on premises, so they are less likely to be burgled. Dogs are always armed. Maybe coin shops should start investing in dogs for protection.

    The substantial truth doctrine is an important defense in defamation law that allows individuals to avoid liability if the gist of their statement was true.

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    mikee999mikee999 Posts: 529 ✭✭✭✭

    Human nature being what it is always think that’ll happen to someone else, but not me.

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    giantsfan20giantsfan20 Posts: 1,402 ✭✭✭✭
    edited March 27, 2024 11:13PM

    Some of the stolen coins would be easily identifiable if found.

    “There were some specific silver dollars that we better date dollars but they were messed up in some way or another. About 80 or 90 coins that any dealer that saw this stuff walk in, would recognize that this is from this deal,” Miller said.

    **Wonder what that means better dates were messed up?

    Wonder what that meant since he is a dealer.

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 12,055 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @giantsfan20 said:
    Some of the stolen coins would be easily identifiable if found.

    “There were some specific silver dollars that we better date dollars but they were messed up in some way or another. About 80 or 90 coins that any dealer that saw this stuff walk in, would recognize that this is from this deal,” Miller said.

    **Wonder what that means better dates were messed up?

    Wonder what that meant since he is a dealer.

    My guess is that "messed up" meant problem coins - cleaned, damaged, altered, etc.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

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    dbldie55dbldie55 Posts: 7,719 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have only been at this shop once. His previous location, hundreds of times. Sad to hear.

    If I recall, Wayne stopped card collecting when his collection was stolen.

    Collector and Researcher of Liberty Head Nickels. ANA LM-6053

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