Home U.S. Coin Forum

1969S Doubled Die Obverse Lincoln Memorial Pennies'

Hey there everyone. I m at loss again learning about doubled die vs machine doubling or die deterioration is new to me could anyone tell me wether any of these 1969S Lincoln Memorial Pennies' are Doubled Die Obverse or not pretty please


  • Options

    Well they didn't go in quite the order I meant to send them in. Hmmm

  • Options
    GreenstangGreenstang Posts: 813 ✭✭✭✭

    Hard to tell with the glare on your photos but I can’t see any type of doubling.
    Could you show a closeup of where you think there might be some type of doubling.

  • Options
    goldengolden Posts: 9,069 ✭✭✭✭✭


  • Options
    david3142david3142 Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 14, 2024 5:16PM

    The 1969-S DDO is a very clear doubled die. If you aren’t sure from looking at it then the answer is no. Also, there are only a handful of them known so the odds are probably a few million to one against it.

  • Options
    jonathanbjonathanb Posts: 3,430 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Greenstang said:
    Could you show a closeup of where you think there might be some type of doubling.

    @ManonGee that's the important question and I hope that you will respond. If you can't something that even looks like doubling, you can be confident there is no doubling.

  • Options
    Manifest_DestinyManifest_Destiny Posts: 3,734 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Compare with variety vista.

  • Options

    Thank you I have a bunch of 1969S and those looked most Doubled Die to me like I said I I m new to coin collecting and I m trying to learn the difference in Doubled Die vs machine doubling or die deterioration doubling d thank you so much for your help

  • Options
    jonathanbjonathanb Posts: 3,430 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ManonGee said:
    Thank you I have a bunch of 1969S and those looked most Doubled Die to me

    "looked most" is not a phrase that has any meaning when it comes to die varieties. It needs to match EXACTLY. There is no "most".

  • Options
    jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 9,318 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Welcome to the forum.
    Please do yourself a favor and go to PCGS's Coin Facts and Variety Vista when questioning a DDO/DDR. There you will fiind photographs of what you are looking for.
    Below is a photo from PCGS that shows none of your coins have anywhere near the requirements for a DDO.
    Best of luck.

    When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln

    Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
  • Options
    JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,821 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm not seeing any.

  • Options
    DCWDCW Posts: 6,977 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If I had a dollar for everyone that has shown me a normal 1969-s cent with the hopes that it was the rare doubled die, I'm sure I could buy a genuine one.

    Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
    "Coin collecting for outcasts..."

  • Options
    davewesendavewesen Posts: 5,860 ✭✭✭✭✭

    When you mention Doubled Die Obverse, why do you show us the reverse? The obverse usually has a portrait and date.

    Machine, mechanical or ejection doubling is caused during the coin minting process. Right after the coin is struck, when it is being ejected, a small area on the coin has a 'scraped' area pushing the edge of a letter or device in toward the raised area of the coin.

    A doubled die is caused with the hubbing process of the die. Theoretically there could be thousands of identical coins made from that die. Some Doubled Die coins have a very wide separation like the 1955 DDO cent. Hard to notice ones show separated serifs on the corners of letters.

    Many issues have many minor DDOs or DDRs. Look at a website like www.varietyvista.com to see if your coin is already discovered and listed.

  • Options
    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 27,521 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Notta 👎

Leave a Comment

BoldItalicStrikethroughOrdered listUnordered list
Align leftAlign centerAlign rightToggle HTML viewToggle full pageToggle lights
Drop image/file