Which Generation Holder is this 1931-S Lincoln cent?

ThePennyLady

Just picked this up at a local show, not sure which Generation number it is. According to the "PCGS Generations" thread, the 2.0 description states:

"... basically a inner rattler with an outer ring added. Bar code added to the front label. Raised PCGS on the outer ring, lower right obverse. No "PCGS" top center. Square hologram on reverse with rounded corners, used on several subsequent generations. Coin number and barcode align on left."

However, the coin number and barcode on this 1931-S is NOT aligned on the left, it is centered. Anyone have any more info on whether which generation holder this is?

originalisbest

I think the meaning is that the numbers and barcode, taken as a unit, are centered, but relative to each other, they are left-aligned.

originalisbest

You can see more examples in this old thread by Tom B:

https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1096114/the-beloved-pcgs-old-green-holder-ogh-passed-approximately-a-quarter-century-ago-this-month

MetroD

Appears to match the Museum GEN 2.1 holder.

Edited to Add:
Here is another reference. Appears to match the GEN 2.1A holder.

Downtown1974

I believe it is the 2.2. Generation. The 2.1 and 2.2 are similar with the exception of the perforated edge of the label.

MetroD

@Downtown1974 said:
I believe it is the 2.2. Generation. The 2.1 and 2.2 are similar with the exception of the perforated edge of the label.

Agree that Museum GEN 2.1 and Museum GEN 2.2 differ with respect to perforation.

That said, to me, the label in the OP appears to have been perforated. Admittedly, not the relatively coarse perforation shown in the Museum image for GEN 2.1. However, it is a good visual match to the (magnified) GEN 2.1A image at 'Old Slab Holders'.

Looks like the perforation style might have varied during this generation.

ThePennyLady

Thank you all for the clarifications. I agree that, with the perforations, it looks most like the 2.1 generation.

JimTyler

Only thing that matters is the two piece holder and hopefully tight, no cracks, problem free.

Walkerfan

It’s a 2.1

jesbroken

2.1A
No PCGS at top of label.
Jim

Copperindian

@jesbroken: nice catch with the 2.1A, which is the most common of the two. The 2.1B with the PCGS is actually less common.

Walkerfan

@rnkmyer1 said:
@jesbroken: nice catch with the 2.1A, which is the most common of the two. The 2.1B with the PCGS is actually less common.

You’re correct. But personally, I like the 2.1 A without the logo better, as it seems more unique and really sets the slab apart from other OGH holders. I have three of them. A 1941S Walker in 65, a 1941D Walker in 65 and a 1936D Buffalo in 65. That is one slab that I don’t mind paying a little extra for. It is my favorite PCGS slab. I have a few rattlers, but I don’t care for them, because they rattle and I don’t think it’s good for the Coin.

Copperindian

@Walkerfan: your post prompted me to check my inventory. I only came up with one 2.1A - a 1904 color monster IHC in 65RB. I agree with you about liking the 2.1A better - very cool with a uniqueness w/o the logo. As far as rattlers, I have 8-10 of those but luckily only 2 of them rattle. My fave of those is the one I have with the foam collar surrounding the coin.

Walkerfan

@rnkmyer1 said:
@Walkerfan: your post prompted me to check my inventory. I only came up with one 2.1A - a 1904 color monster IHC in 65RB. I agree with you about liking the 2.1A better - very cool with a uniqueness w/o the logo. As far as rattlers, I have 8-10 of those but luckily only 2 of them rattle. My fave of those is the one I have with the foam collar surrounding the coin.

Very cool 👍 Rattlers are getting tougher to find. The few that I have are CAC stickered and I will never crack them.

duck620

Here's a 1949-S Franklin Half in what i think is Gen 1.2 (Rattler) Also has die crack from the E TO S in states,also under M of america.

mr1931S

Those perforations around the label are delightful.

MetroD

@duck620 said:
Here's a 1949-S Franklin Half in what i think is Gen 1.2 (Rattler) Also has die crack from the E TO S in states,also under M of america.

Agree that it appears to be a 'Museum / OSH' GEN 1.2 holder (i.e., FEB 1986 - SEP 1989).

It is not a:
~ GEN 1.0, because the shape of the "5" on your label is incorrect (i.e., it is not the "crude dot matrix printer" version);
~ or GEN 1.1, because the PCGS cert number is not in the 108XXXX series.

duck620

Thanks for the info.