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Grade Posted at End….Since We’re Doing GTG on Recently Submitted Seated Halves….

Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,446 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited February 29, 2024 12:38PM in U.S. Coin Forum

This one just got graded from my FUN show submission to PCGS; what are your thoughts?

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  • spyglassdesignspyglassdesign Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks ms to me... The toning makes it tough... If I had to toss a number... 63?

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  • Manifest_DestinyManifest_Destiny Posts: 6,896 ✭✭✭✭✭

    62

  • erwindocerwindoc Posts: 5,094 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Low MS, guessing 62

  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,002 ✭✭✭✭✭

    With toning muting luster and with scratches on reverse at 10 to 11 o'clock, I feel it will still grade 63. I truly like the coin, Greg. Did you buy it at FUN or had you had it a while?
    Jim


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  • MeltdownMeltdown Posts: 8,792 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Pretty coin. I'm thinking AU - 55 maybe?
    I don't really see wear on the reverse, but the obverse left fields make me think circulated... the leg, boobs and cheek are tough to tell from the photos...

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  • CRHer700CRHer700 Posts: 1,945 ✭✭✭✭✭

    61, luster appears to be lacking.

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  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,446 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jesbroken said:
    With toning muting luster and with scratches on reverse at 10 to 11 o'clock, I feel it will still grade 63. I truly like the coin, Greg. Did you buy it at FUN or had you had it a while?
    Jim

    Thanks Jim. I really like it too.

    Actually it came from JJTeaparty about ~30 years ago.

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  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,222 ✭✭✭✭✭

    62

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  • jayPemjayPem Posts: 4,080 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like a high AU to me... no true view I take it?
    Pic is perhaps creating a bit of extra flash?
    Surfaces could be anywhere between pristine and polished, wouldn't be able to judge.
    Looks like a superb coin regardless

  • CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 8,669 ✭✭✭✭✭

    53

  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,446 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jayPem said:
    Looks like a high AU to me... no true view I take it?
    Pic is perhaps creating a bit of extra flash?
    Surfaces could be anywhere between pristine and polished, wouldn't be able to judge.
    Looks like a superb coin regardless

    This picture is much more accurate to the coin in hand, imo, than the trueview that I saw yesterday, which was terrible. I think all the silver toner images were bad, but the copper and nickel images were pretty good.

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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,347 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU55

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  • marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,280 ✭✭✭✭✭

    55 seems correct

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,518 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll guess AU58. Whatever the grade, I really like the toning. And that's an issue that's very tough to locate with attractive color.

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  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,321 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU 58. I see just a little rub on the right facing breast. The eye appeal is fantastic with sharp details!

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  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,002 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice pic for 30 yrs ago. Great investment.
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  • jughead1893jughead1893 Posts: 1,399 ✭✭✭✭✭

    61

  • CatbertCatbert Posts: 7,169 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My guess is 55. Pretty coin.

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  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,446 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well thanks all for the guesses and comments.

    Needless to say I was very disappointed in the result. I assumed easy 55, solid shot at 58:

    The only thing I can see is that they probably didn’t like this area with the dark toning around the stars and outline of Liberty. There are no hairlines etc. and I certainly think it’s market acceptable. I won’t be putting it on eBay at 99 cents and letting it rip!

    When I first received the coin from JJT, I remember thinking wow, this is what a nice old original coin stored for decades in an old paper envelope, possibly with a rubber band across the obverse, looks like…

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  • maymay Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 29, 2024 12:46PM

    Crack it out! :)

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  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,321 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 29, 2024 12:50PM

    I'm not seeing a problem/cleaning issue.

    I see slight hairlines but that's normal wear for an AU coin, IMHO.

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  • Davidk7Davidk7 Posts: 335 ✭✭✭✭

    From my experience PCGS hates the "haloing" around the eagle and the relatively brighter surfaces around it. I had a few Capped Bust Halves come back details because of that.

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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,347 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The coin was probably burnished long ago in order to bring out the details. The entire coin was probably very dark before this was done. In spite of the "details" grade it should still bring good money as it has good eye appeal and is not a common date coin. Album collectors would probably love to have it in their albums!

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  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,446 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @291fifth said:
    The coin was probably burnished long ago in order to bring out the details. The entire coin was probably very dark before this was done. In spite of the "details" grade it should still bring good money as it has good eye appeal and is not a common date coin. Album collectors would probably love to have it in their albums!

    It’s been in my 7070 album since 1991, so I certainly agree with that part!

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  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,446 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Davidk7 said:
    From my experience PCGS hates the "haloing" around the eagle and the relatively brighter surfaces around it. I had a few Capped Bust Halves come back details because of that.

    What’s interesting, I guess, is that the seated dollar submitted with similar “issues”, straight graded!?

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