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FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 2,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited February 27, 2024 5:16PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Good luck!


Young Numismatist, Coin Photographer.

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    emeraldATVemeraldATV Posts: 4,056 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looking at that ms 68 (?) photo, is impressive, as is the coin I'm sure.
    Just my thoughts,
    Maybe its too large or the sharpness scale is reflecting to much of its beauty.
    Use the preview button, it's almost like cheating.
    The strike is without question impressive, but thats all I can see.
    Very cool .

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    jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 9,303 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 27, 2024 10:31AM

    If the reverse scratches are on holder I thought pf67/68, but then noticed the marks below his eye and the square object in front of his ear and think it may be held to pf66. I may be wrong but I feel it to be a proof. Gorgeous regardless.
    Jim

    Edited to add: Sorry, Yes to CAM.


    When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln

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    jughead1893jughead1893 Posts: 1,044 ✭✭✭✭✭

    pr66 rd cam

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    alaura22alaura22 Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 27, 2024 12:25AM

    Not sure what that is under the R in states and the square object that Jim pointed out, also some marks on his face witch might be toning can't tell
    PR65
    In an NGC holder might have a CAM

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    CommemDudeCommemDude Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Pr 66 red

    Dr Mikey
    Commems and Early Type
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    JerseyBJerseyB Posts: 73 ✭✭✭

    Proof 65 Cam

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 12,053 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cameo Proof, whose numerical grade can't be ascertained to any meaningful degree of accuracy by viewing an image. Anyone who guesses correctly is knowledgeable and/or lucky and anyone who guesses incorrectly is unlucky and/or unknowledgeable. >:)

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

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    1madman1madman Posts: 1,295 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Pr62 red

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    jfriedm56jfriedm56 Posts: 845 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My guess would be Proof-65 Red Cam. Nice looking coin, but whatever is going on, on the cheek and Lincoln’s face would limit the grade, IMO.

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    Manifest_DestinyManifest_Destiny Posts: 3,697 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64rd cam

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    scubafuelscubafuel Posts: 1,734 ✭✭✭✭✭

    CACG PF58+ CAM

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    jp84jp84 Posts: 184 ✭✭✭

    PR66 Red

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    ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,333 ✭✭✭✭✭

    PF66RB

    Collector, occasional seller

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    RipnrunRipnrun Posts: 11
    edited February 27, 2024 11:47AM

    Pr65 maybe 66 depending on if scratches are on coin or slab, I'm guessing no cameo designation by tpg due to weaker obverse unfortunately, although that has better contrast than most and should get it.

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    SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,254 ✭✭✭✭✭

    PF65RB

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    nwcoastnwcoast Posts: 2,845 ✭✭✭✭✭

    PR65 CAM

    Happy, humble, honored and proud recipient of the “You Suck” award 10/22/2014

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    JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,818 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 27, 2024 1:33PM

    PF64RD

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    JW77JW77 Posts: 460 ✭✭✭✭✭

    PF64 CAM

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    DMWJRDMWJR Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭✭✭

    66cam

    Doug
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    CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 7,928 ✭✭✭✭✭

    PR63RB DCAM
    BN possible

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    FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 2,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 28, 2024 3:47PM

    Some interesting guesses here. These coins likely rank among the hardest to grade, simply because of how much the standards swing.

    This coin is graded: PF66RD CAM

    This coin is from the CA-2 die pair, the main die pair for CAM proofs for this year's cents. This die pair produced the finest contrasted cents for the 1936-1942 era.

    1937 Proof Cent
    CA-2
    Possible Use Dates: January 5th, March 18th, September 8th, October 4th.
    Die Markers: Striations off of the N in ONE and E in AMERICA, as well as throughout reverse. Circular die striations on the obverse portrait. Brilliant cheek high points.


    Figure One: Circular die scratches can be seen on Lincoln’s portrait. This is likely from a rotating lap that was charged with coarse polish to “rough out” the die, and then charged with fine polish to make the mirror finish.
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    Figure Two: Heavy die striations are present on the reverse.
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    Figure Three: An area of brilliance can be seen on the cheek of Lincoln. This is not present on all coins as the frost wore to an even state, but it does appear on all early die state coins. A second area of brilliance (not circled) is only present on some coins and does not appear in the same area. This could have been caused by debris in the high points of the die. Note that the spot in the lower right of the brilliant area is not a part of the coins, but is sitting on top of it, and thus is not a die characteristic.

    Description and Coins Possible: A deep cameo reverse is common. It is likely that this die produced around forty to fifty cameo coins. Several Ultra Cameo coins were produced from this die pair, which would lead one to believe that this date and denomination is quite common when compared to other cameos of the era. It appears that this die pair was repolished and produced a scant number of cameos after, perhaps three or four.

    Images:

    PCGS PR67CAM, courtesy of PCGS CoinFacts:

    NGC PF66RD CAM:

    Commentary on NGC 66CAM: Obverse shows weaker contrast than reverse. Overall contrast is seemingly average to above average for graded CAMs, with all devices being fully frosted to heavily frosted. Die markers on reverse are strong. Mirrors are a deep black on both sides of the coin. Eye appeal is high due to contrast. This particular example shows a pinkish coloring that appears to be a result of storage outside of the original cellophane. It approaches red-brown.

    Young Numismatist, Coin Photographer.

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    davewesendavewesen Posts: 5,853 ✭✭✭✭✭

    proof coins are hard to grade by pictures because hairlines can easily be hidden and frost increased or decreased with photography

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    CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 7,928 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree about the contrast as it is pretty remarkable and surprised that it didn’t go Dcam based on those mirrors.
    The cheek got me on the grade.

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