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Bought this Grant w/Star from an elderly couple @ 30 years ago . They claimed the wifes father was the original owner. He stored it in a piece of flannel cut from a pair of pajamas. Gave to my dealer to submit (NGC). Came back bodybagged for cleaning. Some years later I sent it myself to ANACS. Came back cleaned and retoned.
I would appreciate the board's opinion on whether this coin might be a candidate for PCGS conservation.
It appears to have decent luster under the toning (for a Grant commem.)
What say you?

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    braddickbraddick Posts: 23,128 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Based on your photos and the coin's history, I'd leave it alone.

    peacockcoins

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 12,056 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You can't conserve the cleaning out of "cleaning".

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

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    Hope these work

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    Thanks for the comments on my previous post. Been lurking here for 20 some odd years but only posted once before (on the currency board) so I know enough to respect your opinions MFeld and Braddick.
    I'm putting together my first PCGS submission (mostly gold from a family friend's parents estate) , but I also have some Economy submissions and , given the circumstances surrounding the Grant w/star, leave me to question whether several coins are likely to receive a similar fate. any opinions appreciated.

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    TomBTomB Posts: 20,737 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As @MFeld and @braddick have already stated, you can't conserve the cleaning out of the coin. You can use it as a pocket piece and intentionally put wear on it over time, but you risk losing it and also the wear will be unpredictable. Eventually, however, it might pass into a TPG holder as a circulated coin in a straight grade.

    As for your other coins, the speckled Pilgrim might grade well, but you are in for pain if you submit the rest.

    Thomas Bush Numismatics & Numismatic Photography

    In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson

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    jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 9,318 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Welcome to the forum. Just for your info and to make it easier on the readers. Please open your photo, copy it, and paste on the body of your post. Like this. Saves everyone a lot of time. The once you get better with photos, get a free image adjusting software(which you probably already have) and cut the photo down so you don't take up so much space. Like this. Notice how much area you save. Good luck with your inheritance. One other thing, ask on this forum for a reasonable and respected dealer in your area and give them a shot. You need them and they need you.
    Jim



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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 12,056 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TomB said:
    As @MFeld and @braddick have already stated, you can't conserve the cleaning out of the coin. You can use it as a pocket piece and intentionally put wear on it over time, but you risk losing it and also the wear will be unpredictable. Eventually, however, it might pass into a TPG holder as a circulated coin in a straight grade.

    As for your other coins, the speckled Pilgrim might grade well, but you are in for pain if you submit the rest.

    I have the same thoughts as Tom about the additional coins.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

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    Thanks TomB.
    For the record, the second group came from a different household, stored in manila envelopes in the basement since at least the 50's. Didn't do that Columbian any favors but I might try two of the Pilgrims. The pictures are admittedly not great.
    Most of my submission don't have the toning issues, but I'd prefer not to waste my time on bodybags.
    I have a 5$ with a copper spot on the reverse that I think will straight grade.
    Mostly dreck but what the heck.

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    Jesbroken, thanks for the tip. I'll try to up my photography game.
    BTW, None of these were inherited, I bought them.
    Sold a lot of material to local dealers over the years.
    Like many here, my kids do not have my interest in coin-collecting so I may wind up consigning things or selling the collection at some point. Just not ready yet.

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    There is no way I'd use a Grant w/star as a pocket piece! I'll just sell it for what it is before I do that.

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    I do have a nice AU details whizzed 1917s Buff that i'd risk as a pocket piece though.

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    1madman1madman Posts: 1,298 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The spot on the $5 gold will be able to be removed with conservation. Can’t tell if the Morgan’s obverse has been cleaned due to the strange angle and blurriness of the photo. Gut instinct for the group would be to give them raw to greatcollections, have them submit to NGC for grading &/or conservation because of GC’s discounted fees, and sell them at auction with $1 starts.

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    1madman, its from an roll that I own that allegedly came from a full mint bag. Only 2 vams in the roll so I'm pretty confident. 2 crescent toners and this, the others are all blast white.

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